16:00:21 <mizmo> #startmeeting
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16:00:35 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
16:00:35 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
16:00:40 <mizmo> .fas duffy
16:00:41 <zodbot> mizmo: mikeduffy 'xiaofeng.wu' <mikeduffy@qq.com> - duffy 'Máirín Duffy' <fedora@linuxgrrl.com> - owenduffy 'Owen Duffy' <owen@owenduffy.net> - cduffy 'Charles Duffy' <charles_duffy@dell.com> - dduffy 'David Duffy' <duffy.david@gmail.com> - pduffy 'Pat Duffy' <Pduffy117@gmail.com> - dufflebag 'Martin Duffy' <duffym@gmail.com> - kdpkd 'kev duffy' <kevduf@gmail.com> - thequbit 'Tim Duffy' <thequbit@gmail.com>
16:00:46 <mizmo> whoops
16:01:01 <gnokii> take mynameis
16:01:02 <mizmo> i want you guys to meet bronwynmowens - she is my new intern, she'll be with us for the next 5-6 weeks
16:01:17 <mizmo> she is going to be helping us out with some of our tickets and design work
16:01:35 <mizmo> she is going to be going to school for fashion design so she is going to do more visual design tasks than ux
16:01:39 <bronwynmowens> Hi!
16:01:52 <M1C4HTRON13> hi
16:01:53 <threebean> hi :)
16:02:06 <mizmo> welcome bronwynmowens :)
16:02:17 <bronwynmowens> thank you! Im very excited to listen in
16:02:23 <mizmo> should we jump into the tickets or does anybody have any pressing issues to bring up / discuss?
16:03:01 <gnokii> cool
16:03:02 <mizmo> okay let's just jump to the tickets
16:03:14 <mizmo> #topic stalled tickets - waiting on reporter >= 4 weeks
16:03:21 <mizmo> we only have one stalled ticket this week - https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/13
16:03:22 <gnokii> just readiness meeting and flock
16:03:32 <mizmo> okay we'll hit those up at the end
16:03:38 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/345
16:03:41 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/345"
16:03:44 <mizmo> Request for Logo to represent and promote Fedora in Singapore
16:04:13 <mizmo> okay so the reporter actually came back and i didn't notice, so i will be working on this ticket today to finish it up
16:04:36 <mizmo> let's move on to aging tickets
16:04:45 <mizmo> #topic aging tickets (tickets unmodified for 2 or more weeks)
16:04:49 <mizmo> we've got 6 here:
16:05:01 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/119  Request for new system-config-services icon
16:05:01 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/119  Request for new system-config-services icon"
16:05:19 <mizmo> finalzone_laptop, looks like 119 is yours, any updates?
16:05:58 <finalzone_laptop> mizmo, started early version but it is not ready yet
16:06:14 <mizmo> finalzone_laptop, can you post the progress so the reporter can see it?
16:06:26 <mizmo> or even just post an update?
16:07:01 <finalzone_laptop> in a moment
16:07:05 <mizmo> finalzone_laptop, great thanks!
16:07:07 <mizmo> sadin, around?
16:07:15 <mizmo> next ticket is https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/199
16:07:19 <mizmo> Interface and Usability refresh for ask.fedoraproject.org
16:07:32 <mizmo> sadin, was hoping to get a status update from you on this this?
16:07:46 <gnokii> thought thats a gsoc project?
16:08:13 <mizmo> i think it was proposed as one, but gsoc hasn't started yet
16:08:24 <mizmo> if the project is on hold until gsoc we should probably update the ticket with that info, no?
16:08:34 <gnokii> yes we should
16:08:42 <mizmo> okay i will send those guys an email and ask them to do that
16:09:44 <mizmo> okay email sent
16:09:54 <mizmo> next ticket
16:09:56 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/210
16:09:58 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/210"
16:10:00 <mizmo> Update fedoracommunity maps with Russia in EMEA (not APAC)
16:10:22 <mizmo> i think it's midnight or 1 am for ryanlerch so he is likely not here
16:10:25 <mizmo> i can email him for an udpate
16:10:35 <gnokii> is he back in oz?
16:10:42 <mizmo> he is! got back last week
16:11:03 <mizmo> we could maybe consider switching the meeting time so he could make it
16:11:07 <mizmo> but im not sure how easy that will be
16:11:47 <mizmo> okay email sent
16:11:56 <mizmo> next one
16:11:57 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/218
16:11:57 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/218"
16:12:02 <mizmo> Europe edition of Freemedia envelope
16:12:37 <mizmo> i'll email twohot again and see what the status is
16:12:53 <gnokii> ok I will ask twohot on me he answers fast
16:13:04 <mizmo> okie doke
16:13:17 <mizmo> next one
16:13:19 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/279
16:13:20 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/279"
16:13:23 <mizmo> Design for "This week in Fedora"
16:13:31 * finalzone_laptop notes ticket #119 updated
16:13:42 <mizmo> looks like a sadin ticket, will email him for update
16:14:41 <mizmo> email sent
16:14:46 <mizmo> okay one more
16:14:51 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347
16:14:51 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347"
16:14:58 <mizmo> Fedora Cloud, Server, and Worksation Stack Exchange community promotion ads
16:15:09 <mizmo> this one is open!
16:15:15 <mizmo> bronwynmowens, do you want to try this one?
16:15:49 <bronwynmowens> yes sounds greta
16:15:54 <gnokii> !
16:15:54 <bronwynmowens> *great, sorry
16:16:01 <mizmo> cool i'll put you on it as the assignment
16:16:05 <mizmo> er assignee
16:16:11 <mizmo> whats up gnokii
16:16:28 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347
16:16:31 <gnokii> we should define guidelines before we give it to such pages
16:16:49 <mizmo> for server / workstation / cloud logos?
16:16:53 <gnokii> yes
16:17:14 <mizmo> well i can work with bronwyn on using them correctly and we can extrapolate guidelines from that
16:17:23 <mizmo> and add them to the wiki guidelines page
16:17:34 <mizmo> is there a ticket for guidelines for them?
16:17:38 <mizmo> we should probably make one if not
16:17:39 <gnokii> thats what I thought extending the wiki page
16:17:51 <gnokii> no ticket for it
16:17:58 <mizmo> okay ill make one now and assign it to me
16:18:31 <gnokii> point is through the font problem in inkscape we have already stuff with other font e stickers and they go like hell
16:18:44 <mizmo> yeh :(
16:18:50 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.new -- duffy opened a new ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/366
16:19:04 <mizmo> well part of that too is ppl using the SVGs instead of asking for PDFs or consulting with us :-/
16:19:14 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/366
16:19:19 <finalzone_laptop> gnokii, even with 0.91 version of inkscape?
16:19:52 <gnokii> finalzone_laptop: yes there was one in 0.91
16:20:00 <mizmo> wait theres a font bug?
16:20:05 <gnokii> was
16:20:37 <gnokii> it happened also on badges it says its another font as it really is
16:21:06 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- sarupbanskota updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/199
16:21:13 <mizmo> thats weird
16:21:21 <mizmo> ive seen weird things happen sometimes when text is grouped
16:21:40 <mizmo> oh sarup already updated 199 (ask.fpo) - fabulous
16:22:09 <mizmo> okay we have some more ticket cateogries to go thru it looks like
16:22:17 <mizmo> #topic untriaged tickets
16:22:29 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/363  spins.fpo and labs.fpo websites - need mockups
16:22:31 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/363  spins.fpo and labs.fpo websites - need mockups"
16:22:38 <mizmo> i've been working with robyduck on this one, i should post an update
16:23:41 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/363
16:23:44 <mizmo> okay i updated it
16:23:58 <mizmo> if u guys are curious tehse are the mocks https://github.com/fedoradesign/fedora-spins
16:24:06 <mizmo> eg https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fedoradesign/fedora-spins/master/desktops/mockupv1.1.png
16:24:22 <mizmo> we're splitting spins into two sites - one for the desktop spins, and one for the functional spins (design suite, electronics lab, games, etc)
16:24:52 <mizmo> okay enxt one
16:25:08 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/363
16:25:10 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/362  logo for pagure
16:25:13 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/362  logo for pagure"
16:25:33 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13, looks like you've been making some awesome progesrs on this one, it's just missing the triaged keyword so i will add that for you
16:26:01 <mizmo> next one
16:26:01 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/362
16:26:06 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364  update design team wiki
16:26:06 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364  update design team wiki"
16:26:12 <gnokii> jurankdnkals are nice
16:26:13 <M1C4HTRON13> mizmo, whats the appropriate stage to mark a ticket as "triaged"?
16:26:29 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13, traiged means you spoke to the reporter and have all the information you need to work on the ticket
16:26:48 <M1C4HTRON13> mizmo, ok thanks for clarifying
16:26:51 <mizmo> it doesn't mean the ticket is done or anything, just that it makes sense and theres no confusion about what needs to be done
16:26:52 <mizmo> sure :)
16:28:01 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364
16:28:09 <mizmo> Emichan, ^^ do you thikn the draft is good enough to copy oveR?
16:28:10 <mizmo> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design_%28draft%29
16:28:44 * Emichan looks
16:29:26 <mizmo> i think the only thing we need is maybe the meeting time
16:29:35 <mizmo> and link to ticket system?
16:29:48 <Emichan> mizmo, there's still a lot of stuff we don't have in there: portfolio and join information being the two big things
16:29:52 <mizmo> yeh
16:29:54 <mizmo> okay
16:29:57 <mizmo> so it needs more work
16:30:03 <mizmo> i'll leave it open
16:30:10 <mizmo> i dont have time to take it on now
16:30:22 <mizmo> this next one is a new ticket
16:30:29 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365  Guitar Pick artwork and printing for swag
16:30:34 <mizmo> looks like a tight deadline
16:30:35 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365  Guitar Pick artwork and printing for swag"
16:31:39 <gnokii> yeah but fast to make
16:31:43 <mizmo> gnokii, looks like he wants halftones for the logo light blue o_O seems kind of rough
16:31:51 <mizmo> can inkscape do halftones? i don't think easily?
16:32:17 <M1C4HTRON13> mizmo, its not difficult just memory intensive
16:32:18 <gnokii> yes
16:32:46 <gnokii> mizmo: make the pic and then youcan use tiled clones
16:33:03 <mizmo> would that make sense to do? or a pattern?
16:33:11 <mizmo> that seems like a hacky way to do it tho
16:33:57 <mizmo> i dont think its going to look right even with halftones
16:34:14 <gnokii> well thats ok what I am more concerned about is, canwe ask fr the ticketon famna trac?
16:34:18 <mizmo> does anybody have time / desire to play with this one and see if the logo can be haltones?
16:34:18 <mizmo> yeh
16:34:24 <mizmo> its a waste of time for us if famna said no
16:34:45 <mizmo> jsandys isnt online right now
16:35:09 <mizmo> no info on the famna ticket to indicate if he got the budget or not
16:35:27 <mizmo> well
16:35:36 <mizmo> i might play around and see if i can get the logo to halftone, i have a feeling it won't work
16:35:38 <mizmo> but its worth a shot
16:35:39 <gnokii> in generally we should enforce that they note that ticket in the ticket
16:35:48 <mizmo> he did note the ticket there
16:35:57 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365#comment:1
16:35:58 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365#comment:1"
16:36:00 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/100#comment:8
16:36:14 <gnokii> ohyes in comment
16:36:14 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/366
16:36:37 <mizmo> i think that's all the tickets we had to review for today
16:36:56 <mizmo> so we have two other topics - the readiness meeting and flock
16:37:03 <mizmo> does anybody have any work they'd like feedback / critique on?
16:38:14 <gnokii> mizmo: http://karl-tux-stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=1460 halftone tut
16:38:28 <mizmo> ohhhh sweet
16:38:38 <mizmo> its in german tho lol
16:38:50 <mizmo> are they working on a translation of your book yet to english? :)
16:39:18 <gnokii> nope its sold out Iwriting new version
16:39:29 <mizmo> gnokii, im looking in my email i dont see anything about a readiness meeting, did i miss it?
16:39:48 <gnokii> mizmo: it cameover list an hour ago
16:39:56 <gnokii> on thursday
16:40:04 <mizmo> huh
16:40:33 <mizmo> thats weird never came to my inbox
16:40:36 <gnokii> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2015-April/007133.html
16:40:36 <mizmo> well i am glad yo ubrought it up
16:40:36 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- gnokii linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2015-April/007133.html"
16:41:00 <mizmo> i usually go to these, but if anybody else wants to go in my stead so you can get the badge, let me know
16:41:11 <mizmo> i think we are in good shape for beta, right?
16:41:16 <gnokii> question is just you or me so far I see we are fine
16:41:30 <mizmo> you can just go, gnokii and make sure you get your badge :)
16:41:43 <gnokii> I already have it :D
16:41:46 <mizmo> oh okay
16:42:00 <mizmo> well i can do it if you want
16:42:03 <mizmo> i can make that time
16:42:11 <gnokii> ok
16:42:32 <mizmo> for flock - i haven't done any thinking about it
16:42:39 <mizmo> i need to come up with an idea for a preso i can do
16:43:23 <mizmo> we have a wiki page right
16:43:25 <gnokii> I think we have some good on the page, so I would like to submit my ides
16:43:34 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design/Flock_2015
16:43:42 <gnokii> the question is who is helping
16:44:11 <mizmo> oh i will definitely help at the design clinic
16:44:15 <mizmo> you can put my name on that
16:44:24 <mizmo> does anybody else going to flock want to help at the design clinic?
16:44:27 <gnokii> is ryan coming to?
16:44:39 <mizmo> we're not sure yet, trying to see if we can get budget together for it
16:44:43 <mizmo> he will try tho
16:45:22 * gnokii is sending ryan a gummiboot
16:45:31 <mizmo> i think i'll propose a design thinking workshop
16:45:58 <mizmo> oh
16:46:02 <mizmo> maybe better to talk about fedora hubs
16:47:02 <gnokii> ++
16:47:28 <mizmo> okay
16:47:33 <mizmo> anything else? we've got 15 minutes left
16:48:35 <mizmo> okay
16:48:38 <mizmo> let's end it there then :)
16:48:43 <mizmo> thanks for coming eveyrbody :)
16:48:44 <gnokii> doesnt look so
16:48:49 <M1C4HTRON13> can someone give me an invite to the FAS group?
16:48:50 <mizmo> #endmeeting