16:06:58 <mizmo> #startmeeting
16:06:58 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Apr 21 16:06:58 2015 UTC.  The chair is mizmo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:07:03 <decause> mizmo: quick question before it starts -- Is anyone going to libregraphics next week from Fedora Design Team?
16:07:08 <decause> lol
16:07:12 <mizmo> that's a good q decause
16:07:20 <mizmo> i'm not going - is anybody else going?
16:07:44 * decause is considering registering/attending because Toronto is not *too* far from Rochester
16:08:13 <riecatnor> I am also considering attending
16:08:44 <mizmo> it's definitely worth going if anything for the tutorials and the updates you get on the tools
16:08:59 <mizmo> you get to talk to the inkscape and gimp devs in person :)
16:09:08 <decause> solid
16:09:29 <mizmo> another announcement i wanted to make is that there was a deadline extension on flock talks
16:09:44 <mizmo> this is our page of talk ideas - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design/Flock_2015
16:09:54 <mizmo> if anybody wants to propose a talk there is still time!
16:10:09 <mizmo> i dont know if there are any other general announcements / etc
16:10:11 <mizmo> gnokii, are you around?
16:10:19 <gnokii> yes
16:10:31 <mizmo> is there any other news or deadlines we should discuss do you think?
16:10:34 <finalzone-laptop> I can't make it next week =(
16:10:51 <gnokii> I submitted my suggestions
16:11:01 <mizmo> i haven't submitted mine yet lol so i will
16:11:26 <riecatnor> I also need to submit my proposal
16:11:29 <riecatnor> when is the deadline
16:11:37 <gnokii> 2nd may
16:11:50 <mizmo> the website says  April 22
16:11:52 <mizmo> oh snap thats tomorrow
16:11:57 <mizmo> but i had thought it was may too
16:12:06 * decause is pretty sure it is May 2nd
16:12:08 <gnokii> it was extended, there was a mail from ruth
16:12:11 <mizmo> ah okay
16:12:14 <mizmo> so may 2 \o/
16:12:17 <decause> gnokii++
16:12:35 <mizmo> all right
16:12:41 <mizmo> i guess the other thing to mention
16:12:50 <mizmo> although i have been very sick the past couple of weeks so i haven't been getting much progress done
16:12:52 <gnokii> only one thing I added to the page
16:13:25 <mizmo> robyduck and i have been working on new designs for spins.fedoraproject.org and a new site labs.fedoraproject.org, if you are interested in the work it's in github: https://github.com/fedoradesign/fedora-spins
16:13:33 <mizmo> it's based on the new getfedora.org design we did last release
16:13:58 <decause> who runs the fedoradesign org on github?
16:14:06 * decause is very excited about this
16:14:13 <mizmo> decause, i creatd it, a bunch of us on the team are admins
16:14:37 <mizmo> i use it with sparkleshare :) makes life easier
16:14:59 <mizmo> okay so ticket time?
16:15:05 <mizmo> #topic tickets
16:15:20 <mizmo> #topic aging tickets
16:15:22 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/query?changetime=..2weeksago&status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&col=id&col=summary&col=changetime&col=owner&col=type&col=priority&col=severity&col=reporter&report=12&order=priority
16:15:23 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/query?changetime=..2weeksago&status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&col=id&col=summary&col=changetime&col=owner&col=type&col=priority&col=severity&col=reporter&report=12&order=priority"
16:15:26 <mizmo> bleh!
16:15:39 <mizmo> Request for new system-config-services icon   https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/119
16:16:21 <mizmo> finalzone-laptop, looks like you have some designs here - they look great! are you interested in any critiques / feedback?
16:16:31 <gnokii> look luya updated
16:16:32 <finalzone-laptop> mizmo, sure.
16:16:41 <gnokii> and they look great
16:16:47 <pingou> don't forget to comment when you attach a file
16:16:58 <pingou> otherwise the notification isn't sent
16:17:11 <mizmo> finalzone-laptop, i think they are great, the main thing i'd point out is the size is a bit strange. for gnome-shell you need the icons to be at least 128x128 (256x256 is ideal) for the overview
16:17:50 <mizmo> finalzone-laptop, but you want to make sure the reporter is okay with the design before doing all the sizes (16x16, 22x22, 24x24, 32x32, 64x64, 128x128)
16:18:05 <mizmo> finalzone-laptop, so i think sizing would be the next step once the reporter approves the design
16:18:13 <mizmo> im going to modify the ticket so that it's waiting on the reporter to give his feedback
16:18:28 <finalzone-laptop> mizmo, I  will work on those sizes. I needed a feedback for the initial version
16:19:21 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/119
16:19:28 <mizmo> okay cool
16:19:29 <mizmo> next ticket
16:19:40 <mizmo> Update fedoracommunity maps with Russia in EMEA (not APAC)  https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/210
16:20:14 <mizmo> looks like we are waiting on ryanlerch for this one
16:20:19 <mizmo> i will send him an email asking for an update
16:20:52 <mizmo> sent email
16:21:02 <mizmo> next ticket
16:21:07 <mizmo> Design for "This week in Fedora"  https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/279
16:22:18 <mizmo> looks like this one is waiting on sadin
16:22:53 <mizmo> i just emailed him for an update
16:22:55 <mizmo> next ticket
16:23:08 <mizmo> Anaconda banner template  https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/350
16:23:41 <mizmo> hm
16:23:53 <mizmo> theres a q to me from yogi on there but i know we talked about it and i told him i think on irc
16:23:58 <mizmo> ill post to the ticket
16:24:37 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/350
16:24:47 <mizmo> okay next ticket
16:24:59 <mizmo> Request: F22 featured images for the Magazine  https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/355
16:25:16 <mizmo> looks like yogi took this one, i'll email him for an update
16:25:49 * decause is neck deep in nikola these days, would be interested in staying in the loop on #279
16:26:43 <mizmo> oh
16:26:47 <mizmo> yogi attached artwork here
16:27:03 <mizmo> i think it needs some work tho
16:27:48 <mizmo> the sizes for fedora mag changed
16:30:53 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/355
16:31:00 <mizmo> okay i just put a whole bunch of hopefully helpful info in the ticket for yogi
16:31:01 <mizmo> next ticket
16:31:15 <mizmo> 1/4 page ad for LinuxFest NorthWest  https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/357
16:31:34 <mleonova> that's me! I uploaded the file, no idea why it's still open
16:31:46 <mizmo> i think we just need jsandys final okay to close it
16:32:08 <mizmo> or if you think it's totally done we can just close it now and tell him to reopen if there are any issues
16:32:10 <mizmo> what do you think mleonova
16:32:13 <gnokii> yeah looks we have to tell him that
16:32:41 <mleonova> I think we can close it, the deadline is 3 weeks past anyway
16:33:00 <mizmo> okay cool
16:33:24 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy closed a ticket on the Design Team trac instance as 'fixed' https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/357
16:33:26 <mizmo> closed :)
16:33:38 <mizmo> Create Artwork for Cockpit banner to display in Anaconda GUI  https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/358
16:34:54 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/358
16:35:04 <mizmo> okay yogi uploaded a design, i provided some feedback on it
16:35:10 <mizmo> next ticket
16:35:15 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/359  Need designs based on finalized logo for FUDCon APAC 2015
16:35:15 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/359  Need designs based on finalized logo for FUDCon APAC 2015"
16:35:41 <gnokii> can be closed
16:36:05 <mizmo> is the event over?
16:36:10 <mizmo> ah heh yeh
16:36:36 <mizmo> well the deadline is past
16:36:38 <mizmo> but the event isn't until june
16:36:44 <mizmo> so you still think we should close it gonkii?
16:36:47 <mizmo> gnokii (sorry)
16:37:25 <gnokii> no but they are happy with the design and already use it
16:37:52 <mizmo> oh okay
16:38:04 <mizmo> i haven't seen it
16:38:32 <mizmo> this isn't the logo you know gnokii it'
16:38:38 <mizmo> it's the "i am going to " buttons
16:39:21 <mizmo> im not sure what to do
16:39:35 <mizmo> maybe ill block on the reporter and see what they want to do
16:40:17 <gnokii> I hat svg only upload
16:41:38 <gnokii> cant look at have no space at /tmp for an download drives me crazy
16:41:39 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/359
16:41:58 <mizmo> well i just blocked reporter and asked if it was ok since we are past deadline
16:42:13 <mizmo> next ticket!
16:42:14 <gnokii> well another comment
16:42:16 <mizmo> #topic untriaged tickets
16:42:30 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365  Guitar Pick artwork for swag
16:42:30 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365  Guitar Pick artwork for swag"
16:43:17 <mizmo> this ticket is mine, he needs it today so ill do it right after the meeting
16:43:38 <gnokii> aah there he is jurank_dankkal cantarell isnt fedora font its comfortaa
16:43:40 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365
16:43:57 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365
16:44:09 <mizmo> next ticket
16:44:14 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364  Update Design Team Wiki
16:44:15 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364  Update Design Team Wiki"
16:44:20 <mizmo> this ticket doesn't have anyone assigned
16:44:28 <mizmo> so if anybody is lokoing for something to do this might be a good one to pick up
16:44:56 <jurank_dankkal> Hi gnokii, yeah I just saw mizmo comment, I'll fix them by tomorrow
16:45:00 <mizmo> next ticket is also open, if anybody is looking for something to pick up
16:45:08 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/367  Need logo & Badge designs for the Fedora Security Team(FST)
16:45:08 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/367  Need logo & Badge designs for the Fedora Security Team(FST)"
16:45:47 <jurank_dankkal> Mizmo, I'll do the 367
16:46:08 <mizmo> jurank_dankkal, i think you have a few backlogs you might want to clear out first?
16:46:19 <jurank_dankkal> Sorry I mean 364
16:46:19 <mizmo> 367 has some issues so i'm trying to correct them
16:46:28 <gnokii> one comment the shall make an ticket on badges for badges
16:46:30 <mizmo> if you have time :)
16:46:39 <mizmo> do you want me to assign 364 to you jurank_dankkal ?
16:46:43 <mizmo> gnokii, that's what im writing out now :)
16:46:55 <gnokii> mizmo++
16:46:58 <kirkB> I'll take 364 if jurak_dankkal is too busy, I love wiki :)
16:47:09 <mizmo> you guys can work together on it too, it's up to you
16:47:18 <jurank_dankkal> yeah we can work together..
16:47:38 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/367
16:47:42 <mizmo> kirkB, what's your FAS id?
16:47:49 <mizmo> i just updated 367 i think we need more info on reporter
16:47:53 <finalzone-laptop> I will take a look at ticket 367
16:47:53 <mizmo> from reporter i mean
16:47:57 <kirkB> should be kirkB
16:48:34 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364
16:48:50 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364
16:48:51 <mizmo> cool assigned 364
16:48:59 <kirkB> Any timelines involved?
16:49:02 <mizmo> okay we have one more ticket
16:49:14 <mizmo> kirkB, nope no rush on this one, but as with all tickets we look for updates every 2 weeks
16:49:21 <kirkB> Great, thanks
16:49:29 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/368  Fedora .Next Tshirt designs
16:49:30 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/368  Fedora .Next Tshirt designs"
16:50:21 <mizmo> hm
16:50:33 <mizmo> so i have some strong feelings about t-shirts in general, and they aren't positive :-/
16:50:45 <mizmo> what do you think about ticket 368?
16:51:50 <mizmo> is there a real need for a new tshirt design?
16:51:56 <mizmo> given that we do a new design at least once a year for flock?
16:52:16 <mizmo> maybe we can make this ticket about the flock shirt??
16:52:32 <finalzone-laptop> I think it is for flock event as well
16:52:36 <gnokii> well what shall I think about tshirts, zoltan knows how the game is running and I am a little bit pissed about the shirts they did behind the back last time
16:52:53 <mizmo> gnokii, what ones did they do last time?
16:53:23 <gnokii> well they did or this gamer event some the uploaded pictures of theim to emea tracker
16:54:41 <gnokii> https://openclipart.org/detail/171715/slot-machine and a fedora logo in it
16:54:53 <mizmo> oh hmm :-/
16:54:56 <decause> pfrields was just talking about adding a ticket for a FLOCK Shirt ealier today
16:55:04 <mizmo> they used your artwork for it gnokii?
16:55:37 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364
16:56:02 <gnokii> might be thats not the problem, the problem I have that they always do it outside our control from design team perspective and the second is the price they paid for the shirts was horrible expensive
16:56:39 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/368
16:57:18 <mizmo> well... gambling + our logo isn't the best connotation :-/
16:57:22 <mizmo> although its nots uper bad
16:57:43 <mizmo> but yeh the design team should have had some input there
16:58:22 <gnokii> I mean he knows how the game works, he thinks we need shirts, he shall raise it in ambassador meeting Jirka will then make a ticket on our trac and we will find together a nice solution
17:00:04 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/368
17:00:12 <mizmo> okay
17:00:25 <gnokii> in generally most emea have the opinion its to expensive to do shirts as give aways, we found the contributor solution much nicer
17:00:55 <mizmo> okay
17:00:59 <mizmo> that makes sense
17:01:03 <mizmo> well hopefully this will work out
17:01:08 <mizmo> i gave him a bunch of suggestions and cirtique in the ticket
17:01:21 <mizmo> depending on how it goes we may end up closing it or maybe using some of the ideas for flock
17:01:21 <mizmo> okay
17:01:22 <gnokii> I tried to create one for f21 but didnt happen
17:01:25 <mizmo> that's all the tickets
17:01:29 <mizmo> so we're good for now i guess
17:01:38 <mizmo> anybody have anything else to bring up?
17:01:42 <riecatnor> yea
17:01:45 <riecatnor> quick question for you guys
17:01:49 <mizmo> sure!
17:01:57 <riecatnor> threebean reorganized the explore page: https://badges.fedoraproject.org/explore/badges
17:02:09 <gnokii> dont like it
17:02:22 <riecatnor> as he tagged and organized he felt as though some were not under the correct categories
17:02:39 <riecatnor> I am opposed to have different colors in different categories
17:02:57 <riecatnor> should we reevaluate the categories for those badges
17:02:59 * gnokii is thinking back on flock
17:03:24 <riecatnor> or ask threebean to place the existing badges in the ‘correct’ category color wise
17:03:42 <mizmo> riecatnor, looking at some of them - it does seem the category he suggested makes sense, in other ones it doesn't
17:04:12 <mizmo> maybe we need some documentation of how to categorize a badge
17:04:20 <mizmo> because i see how you might think one would go one way or another
17:04:24 <riecatnor> agreed
17:04:35 <mizmo> but eg membership in a community team is usually a community badge, not development if it's a development team
17:04:48 <mizmo> i see infra membership is under development, but it's pink an it should be community - because it's about membership
17:05:20 <mizmo> there's a bunch of fas ones under community... maybe they should be changed not sure
17:05:29 <mizmo> but yeh i want the right color badges in the right categories :)
17:05:34 <riecatnor> ok. so maybe I should make some(further)/update guidelines for categorization. then go through and evaluate badges we have now
17:05:45 <mizmo> that makes sense to me!
17:05:48 <riecatnor> I dont mind changing the rings out on ones we need to change
17:06:03 <riecatnor> awesome.. thanks for your input
17:06:08 <mizmo> sure np :)
17:06:11 <riecatnor> I may have questions later ;)
17:06:19 <mizmo> totally cool :)
17:06:31 <mizmo> aiight im going to close out the meeting, thanks for coming everybody! :)
17:06:33 <mizmo> #endmeeting