16:02:46 #startmeeting 16:02:46 Meeting started Tue May 19 16:02:46 2015 UTC. The chair is mizmo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:02:46 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:03:22 I would continue my comments on the ticket comment after the meeting 16:03:33 well the ticket may come up during the meeting :) 16:03:48 does anybody have anything they want ot bring up befoer we go ticket diving? 16:04:15 nope 16:04:19 okay 16:04:20 no from me 16:04:26 nothing here 16:04:27 * finalzone_laptop cant think of anything 16:04:33 #topic stalled tickets (waiting on reporter >= 4 weeks) 16:04:42 first is 359 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/359 16:04:45 Need designs based on finalized logo for FUDCon APAC 2015 16:05:00 this is closed so i dont understand why its showing up in the report 16:05:07 oh because its blocked 16:05:13 ill remove the block, hopefully that fixes it 16:05:19 trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/359 16:05:28 okay that did fix it :) 16:05:30 next one 16:05:36 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/367 16:05:36 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/367" 16:05:39 Need logo design for the Fedora Security Team(FST) 16:06:37 jurank_dankkal, it looks like we're waiting on a new mockup from you, do you need any help figuring out what to do next or do you just need a little more time? (i know you've been working veyr hard on other tickets) 16:06:55 mizmo, I think I get it from the comment 16:07:05 okay cool 16:07:05 I just need a little more time to fix it.. 16:07:11 hmm, will it be possible to get a fill version of the symbol? 16:07:15 I'll do it this weekend.. 16:07:47 trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/367 16:07:58 trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/367 16:08:28 trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/367 16:08:41 okay next category 16:08:48 #topic aging tickets >= 2 weeks 16:09:11 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347 16:09:12 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347" 16:09:20 Fedora Cloud, Server, and Worksation Stack Exchange community promotion ads 16:09:29 so bronwyn finished these, and posted to the ticket but didn't get any feedback 16:09:39 im going to place them inline so they are easier to view and ask mattdm for feedback 16:09:57 bronwyn's internship is over now so if they need changes we'll need someone to step up to take over the ticket 16:10:08 mizmo, actually my fas account already correct with the previous one in 367 16:10:16 jurank_dankkal, yep i realized that lol i fixed it back 16:10:32 okay :p 16:10:55 i try to make sure all the fields are right and i thoguht assignee was blank - the reports get messed up sometimes if certain fields aren't done right 16:11:44 Sorry I'm late 16:11:56 totally fine we're on our third ticket https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347 16:12:04 actually 16:12:14 does anybody want to take over this ticket? posting the images inline is kind of problematic 16:12:21 i think they may end up needing more work 16:12:39 what else needs done? follow up with requester? 16:12:41 (i saw them in her inkscape window, but these don't look right) 16:12:50 pgpattison, i think the images somehow got corrupted 16:13:16 they all are light grey - they are supposed to be the color of the fedora edition (eg orange for server, green for workstation, purple for coud) 16:13:20 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/attachment/ticket/347/fedora-cloud.png 16:13:20 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/attachment/ticket/347/fedora-cloud.png" 16:13:28 you may need to go into the svg and re-export at best 16:13:29 do we have the correct assets elsewhere? 16:13:31 mizmo: lets wait for another 2 weeks on the ticket 16:13:56 never mind, I see the SVG files 16:14:00 (sorry, new guy) 16:14:09 pgpattison, it looks like they're in the SVGs but they still need some work - the SVG i opened had the background stretched out and not at full opacity 16:14:39 so i think this is a clean up job, may need to make modifications (i don't see the slogans in the SVGs, im not sure why, they were there when she showed them to me) 16:14:59 pgpattison, do you want to give it a try? i can reassign to you 16:15:09 okay, I'll see what I can do. go ahead and give me the ball. 16:15:17 pgpattison, is your FAS account pgpattison as well? 16:15:32 .fasinfo pgpattison 16:15:33 gnokii: User: pgpattison, Name: Palmer G. Pattison, email: pgpattison@gmail.com, Creation: 2014-04-28, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 16:15:36 gnokii: Approved Groups: cla_fpca cla_done 16:15:40 okay great thanks :) 16:15:49 trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347 16:16:40 trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347 16:16:48 pgpattison, okay all yours :) 16:17:11 kewl 16:17:13 here's another one in this category 16:17:14 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365 16:17:14 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365" 16:17:18 Guitar Pick artwork for swag 16:18:01 this work is done; i'll close it and tell the reporter they can open if they need any mods 16:18:23 trac.ticket.update -- duffy closed a ticket on the Design Team trac instance as 'fixed' https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365 16:18:32 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364 16:18:32 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364" 16:18:35 Update Design Team Wiki 16:18:46 okay it's been 4 weeks on this 16:18:58 kirkB :) i remember you sent a note to the list asking for feedback, did you end up getting any? 16:19:26 Not that I could see 16:19:36 kirkB, it'd be helpful to have the link to the draft page in the ticket, for some reason i can't find the email you sent 16:19:42 So maybe I can just finish it up 16:19:44 do you happen to have the url handy? 16:19:59 i looked it over and it looked great to me, so i didnt send any comments (prolly should have) 16:20:01 Both are in the ticket 16:20:10 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design_%28draft%29 16:21:33 I just need input on what site design was referenced 16:21:36 hello 16:21:55 And a link to the aaconda redesign blog posts 16:22:05 I'll pull the rest in and finish it up this week 16:23:37 kirkB, ohh okay for some reason i had thought it was on your people page 16:23:53 No, sorry 16:23:53 kirkB, what do you mean by what site design 16:24:07 (by people page I mean the wiki User: namespace) 16:24:14 There was mention of a Fedora website redesign project 16:24:26 oh thats the project im working on now, you could reference getfedora.org 16:24:26 Or a new Fedora website? 16:24:39 Awesome, love fresh content! 16:24:45 the designs for it are https://github.com/fedoradesign/mockups-getfedora 16:24:54 Do you have assets I could thumbnail - o perfect thanks 16:25:11 the spins redesign is almost finished now too, that would be spins.fedoraproject.org and labs.fedoraproject.org going live next week 16:25:23 repos for that are here https://github.com/fedoradesign/fedora-spins 16:25:43 damit now knw what I wanted to work on 16:25:44 Great, and if there are other projects the team is working on that we want to highlight I can add those too 16:26:10 kirkB, could maybe go through some finished tickets for things like the guitar pick and fudcon apac posters etc 16:26:20 gnokii, what project? 16:26:24 Sure, will do 16:26:36 mizmo: your fedora labs got me inspired 16:27:02 kirkB, for the anaconda stuff you've got the right link, could also point to my blog - http://blog.linuxgrrl.com/category/fedora/anaconda/ 16:27:11 gnokii, oh cool :) 16:27:16 OK, I'm good then 16:27:18 gnokii, do you have more ideas for it? 16:27:25 started a drawing with test tubes in fedra color but didnt finish it yet 16:27:28 kirkB, cool do you want me to copy-paste dump this into the ticket? 16:27:36 That'd be awesome 16:28:22 about anaconda output, I may work on some ideas to improve the partition setting part 16:28:43 just some tweak 16:29:51 finalzone_laptop, cool! 16:29:51 trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364 16:30:00 okay next ticket 16:30:01 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/355 16:30:01 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/355" 16:30:05 Request: F22 featured images for the Magazine 16:30:41 jurank_dankkal, i think these look great 16:30:49 thanks mizmo 16:30:55 ill ask roshi for feedback 16:31:08 okay mizmo 16:32:00 trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/355 16:32:29 why does track not inline the images anymore 16:32:30 arghh 16:34:13 mizmo: I was able to put a pic inline earlier today 16:34:26 riecatnor, it seemst o randomly not work :-/ 16:34:51 trac.ticket.update -- siddhesh updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/376 16:35:08 welli just copy pasted the image name again and it worked 16:35:10 * mizmo no idea o_O 16:35:15 okay anyway! next ticket! 16:35:24 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/350 16:35:24 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/350" 16:35:26 anaconda abnner template 16:35:27 maybe it has to do with file size or type 16:35:44 ah 16:35:55 jurank_dankkal, looks like no activity for a while, do you just need more time on this one? 16:36:10 jurank_dankkal, opening it up for others to work on is an option too its up to you. it's been 8 weeks since you've worked on it 16:36:35 mizmo, oh I missed to finish this.. 16:37:08 so my task is just create a blank template for anaconda banner template right? 16:37:43 jurank_dankkal, yep, it should have maybe a sample of the color palette, filler headlines with the right font (should be montserrat), etc 16:38:19 okay mizmo I'll try to finish it this week.. 16:40:03 okay 16:40:04 trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/350 16:40:51 trac.ticket.update -- siddhesh updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/370 16:40:54 okay thats all the aged tickets 16:40:56 next catgeory 16:41:49 #topic untriaged tickets 16:41:52 this is the last category 16:41:53 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/query?keywords=!~triaged&status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&order=priority&report=9 16:42:01 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/372 16:42:01 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/query?keywords=!~triaged&status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&order=priority&report=9" 16:42:01 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/372" 16:42:03 f22 media art 16:42:25 ! 16:42:51 The button on server, workstation failed to convince. 16:43:00 not really fan of gradient 16:43:12 we have a week to GA thoguh 16:43:36 we are pretty lazy with all the design for the release to speak the truth 16:43:37 i dont even know where to start here 16:43:48 the requirements aren't anywhere 16:44:52 mizmo: which ones you mean? 16:44:57 inkscaper, can you please provide us with adjusted versions for EMEA production (just for Workstation and Alternative)? The requirements are the same as last time. 16:45:03 i dont have them from last time 16:45:07 so its unclear to me how these need to be adjusted 16:45:15 the source files aren't here 16:45:32 dont worry about that, Alexander will do it, files are on its fpo 16:45:47 they aren't https://inkscaper.fedorapeople.org/ 16:45:56 ohhh there they are 16:45:59 sorry the remix stuff threw me off 16:46:21 do you think he knows the issues with the requirements? 16:46:24 * gnokii is more worried about how the sleeves look and if alexander got my comment 16:48:05 mizmo: I am sure he knows it and will do it 16:48:24 okay 16:48:25 trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/372 16:48:33 next one 16:48:34 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/376 16:48:34 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/376" 16:48:38 T-Shirt design for FUDCon APAC 2015 16:48:52 I think i will take it 16:48:53 this ticket was opened yesterday with a deadline of 3 days from now 16:48:55 that's hopeful 16:49:05 suchakra: veto 16:49:12 the deadline is for preliminary design as i see 16:49:34 suchakra, no that's final design to printer. printer is going to have them done by june 11 16:49:43 gnokii, why veto? 16:49:48 suchakra, do you think you can make that deadline? 16:50:29 i think i can't make the deadline in the ticket 16:50:36 oh i see its updated in the last comment suchakra, you are right. although that is very tight for a printer to turn around 16:50:36 see last comment from siddesh, had yesterday an conversation with him in IRC. I told him abut differences a designer has to watch with the different printing methods 16:50:58 gnokii: ok. understood 16:51:18 can anybody make this deadline to do a t-shirt design? may 22 for initial draft for printer quote? 16:51:31 im guessing probably around june 1 for final print ready design 16:51:46 (most t shirt printers here require 14 days for production) 16:51:55 you dont need an design to get a quote first yu should know what you want, like now they know at least they want blue shirts 16:52:11 if the deadline is extended by a week, i can di it over weekend ot friday 16:52:26 /s/do 16:52:30 suchakra: I will do it, but first I will comment that ticket ;) 16:52:33 suchakra, how about this - we'll advise them to get the quote without the design, and ask for another week for you to do it? 16:52:36 gnokii, let me do it 16:52:42 (i already have it half-written) 16:52:46 ok 16:52:47 ok sure :) 16:53:21 suchakra, are you going to do a front design, back design, and sleeve motif? 16:53:31 suchakra, how many colors do you think you'll use for each? 16:53:40 the fudcon pune logo is 2 color right? 16:53:48 mizmo: nope 16:53:57 mizmo: no. Its more than 2 16:54:02 oh crap 16:54:06 yeh thats not screen printable 16:54:15 i think I used 6-7 colors. so i would need to modify it 16:54:22 4 greys and 4 blues 16:54:34 suchakra, you could just do the fudcon logomark + fudcon pune logo type, that would be 2 color 16:54:48 and in addition you need a white print for the ground so 9 colors very expensive 16:54:51 make the 'fudcon' logo type white, pick a medium blue shirt color 16:55:03 yeh that would be 3 colors, for just the fudcon pune logo mark + logo type 16:55:05 mizmo: ok 16:55:13 dark blue, white, white underlay 16:55:33 so we'll have them quote 3 color for all of the imprint areas (front, back, sleeve?) 16:55:47 i think we can forget the sleeve area 16:55:54 okay, ill tell them to drop it 16:55:55 I personally don't like it 16:56:13 we all do not want that, looking ppl like a litfass 16:56:53 I will try to do a front and back before deadline with your suggestions, but I would be more comfortable doing it on weekend 16:57:03 mizmo: ^ 16:57:32 suchakra, so would may 25 or 26 be okay? (that is after the weekend) 16:57:43 mizmo: yes! 16:57:45 they will be fine with 16:58:27 mizmo: I know printers in Pune, there are many choices and I think we can be fine with it 16:58:46 (though I can't speak for the organizer's choice) 16:58:50 okay great 16:59:03 trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/376 16:59:29 okay next one is flock tshirt design 16:59:29 https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/369 16:59:30 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/369" 16:59:33 tshirt mania! woo 16:59:49 * gnokii likes riecatnor design 16:59:50 riecatnor, ! its gorgeous! 16:59:55 thanks!! 17:00:08 I am not completely happy with it yet 17:00:14 riecatnor, my only nit is the halo around the fedora logomark on the back 17:00:20 you could just do a white logotype without the mark on the back 17:00:20 riecatnor: yeah some changes 17:00:24 does anyone have suggestions? 17:00:29 but is a very good starting point 17:00:42 ok, where can I find the white logotype 17:00:53 riecatnor, i can email to you right now, sec 17:00:56 I like riecatnor design :) 17:00:58 no backmark 17:01:05 makes it only more epensive 17:01:13 thanks mizmo 17:01:19 ok, should i put it on the sleeve instead? 17:01:22 keeping the front, gnokii? 17:01:56 riecatnor, we seem to not be fans of sleeve imprints in here hehe 17:02:00 i actually like back designs better 17:02:18 hm, well I can try to incorporate it on the front if cost is an issue 17:02:20 riecatnor, oh i think gnokii is suggesting not to have a back design at all, just have the front 17:02:29 i think its important to have a fedora somewhere 17:02:46 definitely 17:02:48 well I dont know why we had all time grey shirts for flock and if that is tradition now 17:02:50 riecatnor: i like the t-shirt front 17:03:09 we used to have white for fudcon for foerver, and we got complaints that people wanted black 17:03:29 mizmo: I dont like white shirts 17:03:30 so then we did black for a while, got complains they wanted something different, so we did heather gray for flock for a while (tends to be as cheap as white too) 17:03:40 gnokii, oh i agree white gets sweatstains lol hard to keep clean 17:03:44 imo, i think grey washes people out 17:03:47 thats why im not as much a fan 17:04:02 I prefer wearing darker colors :) 17:04:06 riecatnor, if you did a medium blue instead of dark blue you could do the fedora logo without the halo 17:04:10 ok 17:04:27 and if it was close enoguh to fedora blue you could just punch that color out so it wouldn't cost $ 17:04:29 so only black and white for either alternate version? 17:04:49 * finalzone_laptop wonders if it is possible to print both versions 17:05:05 think that motiv like it is pops more out on a black one 17:05:06 finalzone_laptop, i think white for the tshirt fabric color is out 17:05:18 black is fine with me honestly 17:05:21 maybe a dark dark gray? 17:05:31 anthrazite 17:05:33 the vendor is probably going to be staples prmotional 17:05:37 let me see what colors they have 17:06:30 http://www.staplespromotionalproducts.com/product/Anvil%20Personalized%20Unisex%20Colored%20Fashion%20T-Shirt/80UAA/ 17:06:35 ohhhh their royal blue is heathered, it looks GOOD 17:07:59 they have camo.... hehe 17:08:17 royal blue looks always damn good 10 years shirt had it 17:08:26 this one comes in heathered black 17:08:27 www.staplespromotionalproducts.com/product/BellaCanvas%20Mens%20Cotton/Polyester%20T-Shirt/80HMF/ 17:08:56 blue camo! 17:09:16 http://www.staplespromotionalproducts.com/product/Sport-Tek%20Mens%20CamoHex%20Tee/80WC4/ 17:10:14 fedora - we just blend in :D 17:10:16 gnokii, i think the 10 years shirt was med blue wasn't it? isn't royal darker? 17:10:26 digging into blue camo 17:10:38 ok so, use white logotype and try to incorporate on the front. use a med or royal blue? any other thoughts on the design? 17:10:47 no it was royal blue 17:11:04 riecatnor, well if you use med blue you could use the logomark in stead of logotype. so it depends the color you go with 17:11:12 ah 17:11:21 I am fine with either 17:12:04 let's do the royal blue, i like the look, esp if we can go with heathered royal blue o_O 17:12:21 okay guys 17:12:22 we are over time 17:12:23 * gnokii has a damn idea using that blue camo shirt for fedora next shirt 17:12:26 there are a few more tickets 17:12:28 just a little comment from me ;) there are some minor inconsistencies (or what do you call it) where grey and white meet now. Other than that looks great! 17:12:36 ok, sweet 17:12:47 i gotta go though 17:12:51 I will continue working on it- anyone else feel free to leave suggestions on the ticket as far as the desing 17:12:53 do you guys want to continue without me? 17:13:09 I have to run to a meeting 17:13:18 mizmo, I really wanted your comment on #371 though 17:13:27 * mizmo looks 17:13:47 mleonova, oooh i love it! 17:14:00 mleonova, i like the one on the right better - the colors are more in the fedora palette i think 17:14:04 but our customers will not 17:14:30 mizmo, thanks =) me too - the right one 17:14:33 mleonova, one critique i think is it took me a while to figure out the hammer was a hammer, i wonder if there is a way to make it look more like a hammer (not sure, maybe an indent) 17:15:04 mizmo, ok, will do! 17:15:41 mleonova, i would also try doing the comfortaa text in all caps 17:15:56 just to see if that would look a bit better (comfortaa is pretty funky) and maybe give you more space for the artwork 17:16:04 hope that helps :) 17:16:14 okay i have to run, should i close the meeting? 17:16:19 mizmo, right, great! 17:16:52 okay im closing 17:16:53 #stopmeeting 17:16:59 #endmeeting