16:03:19 #startmeeting 16:03:19 Meeting started Tue Jun 16 16:03:19 2015 UTC. The chair is mizmo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:03:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:03:25 #topic f23 wallpaper ideas 16:03:44 so we're not going to do the typical ticket meeting today, instead we are going to brainstorm ideas for f23's wallpaper 16:04:42 so far we have 2 ideas 16:05:04 one is inkscaper's idea of vanadium 16:05:09 and the other is gnokii's lighthouse idea 16:05:17 does anybody else have some ideas they've thought about? 16:05:48 not really an idea, just something I've come while messing with blender 16:06:33 sam08, have any mockups to show? :) 16:07:49 yep, just a moment 16:08:16 sorry, couldn't find the file 16:08:17 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100882866/Sharing/test1.png 16:08:44 ooh that's pretty neat 16:08:55 mmh very similar of ryans technique 16:09:14 artefacts, basically, nothing really special 16:10:43 but would be nice, imho, sticking on the idea discussed at the FAD in January of using the wps to showcase what you can produce with the sw we all use 16:12:04 well there is one problem without a "topic" 16:12:28 and that got reflected during our last two releases and the media sleeve 16:12:37 vanadium as a theme creates a lot of interesting possibilities 16:12:48 we dont have to start with a topic tho you can start with a design and get a topic from it 16:13:13 re: vanadium, im a bit worried about relying too heavily on meaning from a number that isn't really meaningful 16:13:59 but comes back to sulphur 16:14:37 yeh we've done elements before 16:14:59 i think the meaning should be inspirational kind of 16:15:03 trac.ticket.update -- pnemade updated a ticket on the fedora-badges trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/374 16:15:20 that isn't to say we couldn't come up with an inspirational meaning from something abstract like sam08's mockup - of course we can 16:16:03 i like the light house meanings of a safe, welcoming place, hope, etc. 16:16:12 http://www.hd2wallpapers.com/view/tears_of_magdalena_the_ghost_of_the_lighthouse-1280x800.php 16:16:39 thats a pretty one 16:16:55 ghost boat? as a safe and welcoming place ? :) 16:16:59 i wonder if we could apply some effect like sam08's to a lighthouse and come up with something cool 16:17:03 the flying dutchman ? :) 16:17:09 pingou, well thats the one that needs a lighthouse that can't find it lol 16:17:14 http://scifiempire.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Cutler-henchmen-collides-with-light-beam-Terminal.png 16:17:40 mizmo: ^ ^ 16:18:13 abstractish lowpoly scene of a lighthouse on a cliff would be nice 16:18:14 that one makes me think of a fly hitting a fly swatter o_O 16:18:37 tron? 16:18:43 a bit yes 16:18:45 well, lets try follow garretts advice avoiding hte lighthouse itself and play more with lightbeam 16:20:02 mizmo: I just searched for light beam 16:20:38 http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/365/e/0/low_poly_ocean__by_pyxartz-d705smd.jpg 16:21:07 you could also do a light house but have a close up somehow or frame so it couldn't be thought of as phallic 16:21:24 M1C4HTRON13, thats a neat effect on there 16:22:02 view from above? 16:22:30 will that seriously be an issue? 16:22:34 or light at the foreground, sea on the background 16:23:18 http://www.google.de/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.crazywebsite.com/Website-Clipart-Pictures-Videos/Alien-Visitors-Spacecraft-UFO-Sightings-UAP-Flying-Saucers/Wallpaper_Lifted_by-light_from_ufo-800x500.jpg&sa=X&ved=0CAkQ8wc4VWoVChMIu7jR58-UxgIVgbMsCh3FWgCH&usg=AFQjCNHkFA2zgatSDv9khu9J_q3f15G8zQ 16:23:40 besides the ufo I think thats a lighthouse nonfallic version 16:23:43 the lowpoly from above reminds me of battleship 16:23:54 M1C4HTRON13, yeh it was a problem for SuSE 16:24:00 when they tried a lighthouse wallpaper 16:24:34 *sigh 16:24:46 wallpapers get bizarre feedback 16:25:11 there used to be a guy who would message us every release when we tried putting purple in the wallpaper to tell us you can't use purple in a wallpaper without insulting europeans because it's the color of a bruise 16:25:14 crazy nonsense 16:25:32 yes the had for SLES once 16:25:41 (which it's the first time I hear about, well second actually) 16:25:54 crazy 16:26:00 what if we projected light beams across a texture like sam08 mocked up? 16:26:22 http://www.google.de/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.traemcneely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/wpid-wp-1420697598015.jpeg&sa=X&ved=0CAkQ8wc42AFqFQoTCJjcq7vQlMYCFQOILAodjTcAMA&usg=AFQjCNHswtBdybrUquUZNcB6oIJftJIbOw 16:27:39 oh thats need, like a geyser 16:27:43 thats my favorite visual so far 16:28:22 yes mine to, I like it 16:28:27 http://twanight.org/newTWAN/photos/3001089.jpg 16:28:33 mizmo, I'm trying right now 16:29:03 http://d1njyp8tsu122i.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/YS-Castle-Geyser-Night-Milky-Way_NPSNealHerbert_680-612x353.jpg 16:29:40 mizmo: didnt we had such a polar light already? 16:30:14 maybe? 16:30:29 im just looking for p0ictures of geyers at night :) 16:31:26 I think for 15 we used something like that for sleeves 16:31:31 \only thing with a geyser is maybe not great connotations so we probably wouldnt want it to literally look like a geyser 16:33:01 you know what this reminds me of... http://www.traemcneely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/wpid-wp-1420697598015.jpeg 16:33:40 this is not the right angle but http://www.mouseinfo.com/gallery/files/6/7/9/4/fantasiafantasia2000_photo_09.jpg 16:33:53 https://werecyclemovies.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/sorcerersapprentice.png 16:33:55 heh 16:34:38 kind of a magical connotation 16:35:09 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100882866/Sharing/test3.png 16:36:21 sam08, ooooh that's neat 16:36:21 mizmo: on the first one mickey mous looked like a little fascist 16:36:52 gnokii, heh yeh its an unfortunate pose 16:37:16 sam08, can you give the light beam a bubbly quality like it has in this one? http://www.traemcneely.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/wpid-wp-1420697598015.jpeg 16:37:21 yeah its ike the thing with the 4 foundations 16:38:38 mizmo, ok, I can try, here's another version https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100882866/Sharing/test4.png 16:39:02 if we go with something like this, what could we pack in the background as this shadow, car is a little bit ugly 16:39:32 i think it's dark..;. maybe if the black could be set to dark blue (not sure if possible) 16:40:05 we have to try 16:40:36 yeh, everything still needs compositing... 16:41:01 but we could also keep it that dark and try to get a pattern there like map elements, wind rose or something like that 16:41:49 trac.ticket.new -- roshi opened a new ticket on the fedora-badges trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/381 16:42:08 gnokii, you mean in the foreground? 16:42:35 yes, I think I have an idea let me try 16:44:03 i really like the effect of the dots of light, it gives it depth & kind of a star look 16:44:47 sorry, that's a few comments behind 16:45:33 mrichard, reminds me of this https://www.google.cz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fsupastrtmg%2Fbackgrounds%2F&ei=jVKAVZD_HcX4UpSMg-gM&bvm=bv.96041959,d.d24&psig=AFQjCNHWtehVu0lgewOzA1AgRqXGwNuzjg&ust=1434559501912428 16:47:39 mleonova, google munged the link, is it this one? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7c/07/87/7c0787743ededf659358107559b470cc.jpg 16:47:59 or https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/78/b1/96/78b1965dbb8d754bbeb6f9a1addf0d4f.jpg 16:48:13 the second one's more like it 16:48:43 a galaxy 16:49:48 mleonova yeah that's exactly what i was thinking! sam08s mockup is a lot more subdued but it's the same cool effect imo 16:51:14 http://img.susepaste.org/39532317 16:52:32 nautical theme 16:52:57 gnokii, looks a little like a Flying Dutchman 16:54:12 I have a half decent tall-ship model in blender if anyone needs 16:54:21 mizmo, nautical space sounds cool =) 16:56:18 space pirates, yar! 16:56:52 ☠☠☠ 16:58:34 some more color in it like this one might be nice https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/78/b1/96/78b1965dbb8d754bbeb6f9a1addf0d4f.jpg 16:58:39 but oh no, there's purple!! lol 17:00:56 sam08, do you have time to work on this more? 17:01:20 (we're over time now) 17:02:12 mizmo, yep, I can try something 17:02:14 ☠☠☠++ 17:02:18 cool :) thank you! 17:02:29 maybe we'll check back in next meeting? 17:04:21 sure, I can post the progress on the list too :) 17:04:39 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100882866/Sharing/test5.png 17:04:40 cool that would be great 17:05:12 oh neat 17:05:49 still havent tried rendering with cycles, but I think internel its better our purpose 17:06:10 it might be neat to play with multiple beams intersecting, or the texturing / bubbling of the light 17:06:54 multiple beams sounds interesting! 17:07:38 woot 17:09:39 when's the deadline for wallpaper delivery? 17:10:18 well actually, we behind schedule 17:11:07 oh, cool! 17:11:26 whats the alpha deadline 17:11:29 passed? 17:12:16 http://img.susepaste.org/18177766 17:12:24 it could work with lighter blue 17:12:41 i like the right orientation 17:13:05 playing a bit with the lighting in an old scene - http://micahdenn.com/images/projects/abstract/abstract_reflection_3.jpg 17:13:29 M1C4HTRON13, ooh that one is neat 17:13:37 i like the blurred edges 17:14:37 defocus + lens distortion, could add it to sam08's design 17:14:48 yeh that would be a nice effect! 17:15:50 M1C4HTRON13, is that cycles or internal? 17:16:37 cycles 17:17:20 depth of field and distort is comp though so not hard for you to add 17:17:57 sure 17:18:47 gnokii, can use this if you need - http://micahdenn.com/downloads/ship_1.png from an unfinished project 17:19:20 nice idea boat in a cup 17:19:34 I think we should start rendering the final at 4k×3k 17:19:38 sailing the high seas of latte foam 17:19:51 yeah never go around to finishing it 17:25:10 the bigger problem might be to reproduce that nice light beam 17:26:34 in your mockup? 17:28:25 yes 17:28:45 sorry people, it's dinner time here, I'll keep trying and keep you updated! :) 17:30:07 3-4 particle systems in blender 17:41:04 okay 17:41:11 i'm going to end the meeting since we seem to be winded down anyway 17:41:13 #endmeeting