2024-03-06 15:59:55 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> !startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting
!chair pwhalen pbrobinson coremodule idiez saypaul djachimo miabbott
!topic roll call
2024-03-06 15:59:56 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-03-06 15:59:55 UTC
2024-03-06 15:59:56 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting !chair pwhalen pbrobinson coremodule idiez saypaul djachimo miabbott !topic roll call'
2024-03-06 16:00:19 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Hey folsk, who's here today? (And in the right channel this time, I think) 
2024-03-06 16:00:32 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Hey folks, who's here today? (And in the right channel this time, I think) 
2024-03-06 16:01:36 <@djachimo:fedora.im> I am present
2024-03-06 16:08:04 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Sorry, had a distraction
2024-03-06 16:08:11 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Lets get started 
2024-03-06 16:08:32 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> !info 1) ==== Working Group ====
2024-03-06 16:08:54 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> I added a section about Branching 
2024-03-06 16:09:30 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> New section - https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/iot-working-group/
2024-03-06 16:09:45 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> With the first SOP - https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/sop-branching-fedora-iot/
2024-03-06 16:09:48 <@nancywrites:matrix.org> Nancy is present 🤗
2024-03-06 16:10:02 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> If folks could have a look and see if anything need fixing 
2024-03-06 16:10:27 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> We'll need to add a bunch more docs, detailing how to use the new stuff like `simplified-provisioning`
2024-03-06 16:11:18 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Anything else to mention? 
2024-03-06 16:12:16 <@miabbott:fedora.im> we have tickets in the issue tracker related to the docs - https://github.com/fedora-iot/iot-distro/issues

folks should feel free to pick them up and work on them, ask questions, etc
2024-03-06 16:12:44 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Happy to assist anyone as well. 
2024-03-06 16:12:54 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> !topic 2) Fedora 39 - Stable
2024-03-06 16:13:43 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> No issues here in my testing, but of course we lost OpenQA. coremoduledid you have a chance to talk about needle updates? 
2024-03-06 16:14:31 <@coremodule:fedora.im> pwhalen: aah! no I did not. Writing an email right now to Adam.
2024-03-06 16:14:41 <@miabbott:fedora.im> adamw was reporting in #iot:fedoraproject.org  that the F39 builds had been failing since  Fedora-IoT-39-20240226.0
2024-03-06 16:15:05 <@miabbott:fedora.im> (probably should have filed an issue when I saw that)
2024-03-06 16:15:11 <@miabbott:fedora.im> (probably should have filed an issue when I saw that message)
2024-03-06 16:15:20 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> They're not failing, its pulled in the fedora-iot-config, which breaks the legacy installer. I need to disable it
2024-03-06 16:16:01 <@miabbott:fedora.im> i mean, there's a failure there whether it is in the build process or the testing process 😏
2024-03-06 16:16:34 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Right :) , there is a stable PR I need to pull for openqa in F39
2024-03-06 16:16:47 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Will do that after the meeting. 
2024-03-06 16:17:17 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> brb
2024-03-06 16:17:41 <@miabbott:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/fedora-iot/iot-distro/issues/32
2024-03-06 16:17:52 <@miabbott:fedora.im> i created the issue like I should have in the first place  :_
2024-03-06 16:17:54 <@miabbott:fedora.im> i created the issue like I should have in the first place  🙂
2024-03-06 16:18:41 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> thanks Micah Abbott
2024-03-06 16:19:06 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> !topic 3) Fedora 40 - devel 
2024-03-06 16:19:45 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> I did some testing - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora-IoT_40_RC_20240227.1_Summary
2024-03-06 16:20:18 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Many of those I tested but didnt mark them off, will so after the meeting. Like zezere, I've tested that dozens of times recently without issue 
2024-03-06 16:20:44 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Parsec is still failing but spoke with pbrobinson about it and we should have a fix RSN 
2024-03-06 16:21:19 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> and I added in `nomodeset` but I dont think its needed as we blacklist vc4 (which maybe we shouldnt anymore) 
2024-03-06 16:21:57 <@miabbott:fedora.im> regarding that testing, is that something that should be done more broadly, i.e. a Test Day?

or is it something that should be handled by Fedora QA?
2024-03-06 16:22:24 <@coremodule:fedora.im> I have a habit of doing this too
2024-03-06 16:22:26 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> So we will have some gaps, most notably PXE bits are no longer available in our tree. So we need to document the process of pulling them out of the iso. I need to test that too, so will make some notes 
2024-03-06 16:22:45 <@miabbott:fedora.im> and who is checking if the testing was completed, successful, etc?  i.e. does it get used as input to determine if we can ship F40 or not?
2024-03-06 16:23:07 <@coremodule:fedora.im> We have a test week scheduled for March 18th through the 22nd. An email from Sumantro should go out to the list and Fedora Magazine sometime soon.
2024-03-06 16:23:46 <@coremodule:fedora.im> Yes, this happens at the Go/No-Go meeting. It's a factor that's considered to determine if we launch or not.
2024-03-06 16:26:04 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> The other thing - https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/iot/Fedora-IoT-40-20240305.0/compose/IoT/x86_64/iso/Fedora-IoT-sp-40-20240305.0.x86_64.iso
2024-03-06 16:26:20 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> We now have the simplified provisiong deliverable enabled 
2024-03-06 16:26:58 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> grr, I can't copy from Matix :( 
2024-03-06 16:28:12 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Appreciate any manual testing people can offer to get some history of testing established in F40. 
2024-03-06 16:28:59 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Is anyone else having issues with Matrix? Seems my messages might not be getting sent 
2024-03-06 16:29:09 <@miabbott:fedora.im> Nope, seeing your messages just fine
2024-03-06 16:29:33 <@miabbott:fedora.im> shows you typing right now
2024-03-06 16:29:41 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> I have an error beside some, David just got discod
2024-03-06 16:29:53 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> ok, carrying on 
2024-03-06 16:30:02 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> anything else for F40? 
2024-03-06 16:30:27 <@miabbott:fedora.im> i forget, did bootupd make it into F40 for IoT?
2024-03-06 16:30:32 <@miabbott:fedora.im> i forget, did `bootupd` make it into F40 for IoT?
2024-03-06 16:30:57 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> heh, yes! And that was actually one of my messages.. its enabled and the 27th compose I tested was to test the fallout 
2024-03-06 16:31:25 <@miabbott:fedora.im> probably need a bootupd test case added to the matrix
2024-03-06 16:31:40 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Agreed. 
2024-03-06 16:32:19 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> !topic 5) General Bugs
2024-03-06 16:32:28 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Any general bugs to discuss this week? 
2024-03-06 16:33:49 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> !topic 6) Open Floor
2024-03-06 16:33:56 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> Anything else? 
2024-03-06 16:36:04 <@pwhalen:fedora.im> !endmeeting