17:00:58 #startmeeting Fedora Join 2018-12-04 17:00:58 Meeting started Tue Dec 4 17:00:58 2018 UTC. 17:00:58 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:00:58 The chair is FranciscoD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:58 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:58 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_join_2018-12-04' 17:01:03 #meetingname fedora-join 17:01:03 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-join' 17:01:22 #chair x3mboy_ bt0 dhanesh95 dhanesh95|m hellbanger[m] itblaked hhlp 17:01:22 Current chairs: FranciscoD bt0 dhanesh95 dhanesh95|m hellbanger[m] hhlp itblaked x3mboy_ 17:01:32 Did I miss anyone on IRC/Matrix? 17:01:42 #info Meeting commands: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Guide 17:01:48 #info Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Join/Next_Meeting 17:02:07 what if I chair tg-fedjoin ? 17:02:10 #chair tg-fedjoin 17:02:10 Current chairs: FranciscoD bt0 dhanesh95 dhanesh95|m hellbanger[m] hhlp itblaked tg-fedjoin x3mboy_ 17:02:37 #topic Roll call 17:02:43 noting happens 17:02:47 #info Alberto Rodriguez S; UTC-6;CommOps, Marketing, dotnet, Infra-apprentice, Ambassadors and more 17:02:53 hi o/ 17:02:55 .fas akarshanbiswas 17:02:56 hellbanger[m]: 'akarshanbiswas' Not Found! 17:03:06 .fas hhlp 17:03:07 #info ankursinha: GMT; Join, classroom, packager, NeuroFedora 17:03:07 hhlp: hhlp 'Héctor H. Louzao P.' 17:03:19 .fas hellbangerkarna 17:03:19 hellbanger[m]: hellbangerkarna '' 17:03:30 sigh 17:03:45 hellbanger[m]: your new account not set up yet? 17:03:53 have you got privacy set on or something? 17:03:59 zodbot wont find you if you have 17:04:25 let's wait a few minutes for others to join it, then we proceed to the next topic 17:04:35 Please wait a minute 17:05:24 #info hhlp 17:05:32 hellbanger[m]: yep, looks like you have your account info set to private 17:05:35 * FranciscoD just checked FAS 17:06:05 #info Akarshan: GMT+5:30; Join, packager, debugging etc. 17:06:56 hellbanger[m]: have you been sponsored to the packager group? 17:07:04 * hellbanger[m] just changed the privacy setting 17:07:05 On fedora? You're on there in RPMFusion already 17:07:10 not yet 17:07:48 .fas akarshanbiswas 17:07:49 hellbanger[m]: 'akarshanbiswas' Not Found! 17:08:02 hellbanger[m]: you'll have to try later once zodbot's cache has been regenerated 17:08:09 it doesn't happen instantaneously 17:08:13 try tomorrow :) 17:08:17 Ah okay. 17:08:27 Right, next topic 17:08:33 #topic Community announcements 17:08:38 I have some announcements to make today 17:08:42 #info Please share announcements here 17:08:45 go on, use info 17:09:24 #info Chromium on Fedora now officially supports vaapi https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/chromium/c/278c62709d1dba5883c3b69047706837bb402bd7?branch=master 17:10:10 #info FPgM report: 2018-48 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fpgm-report-2018-48/ 17:10:37 #info Fedora 29 elections voting begins Thursday, 6 December. 17:10:46 #info Bugzilla will be offline from 0000-1200 UTC on 9 December for an upgrade 17:11:32 #info GNU Octave 4.4 coming to rawhide: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/A6RBVXP4N7DF5GVBCXNKORZBVPDFPR7K/ 17:11:45 awesome 17:12:09 #info Translation status of packages built in koji can be tracked using transtats: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/SMOM2CZ2PGD66W7HASKPD3TOEEAYOTL4/ 17:12:09 good 17:12:51 I don't see anything else worth sharing 17:12:59 I'll wait another minute for any others if you have them 17:13:07 me neither 17:13:30 #topic Action items from last meeting 17:13:37 #info Last meeting's minutes are here: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-join/2018-11-27/fedora-join.2018-11-27-17.00.html 17:13:49 #info FranciscoD bt0 ask around community for an IRC 101 instructor: WIP 17:13:56 Asked around, but no progress yet 17:14:00 #action FranciscoD bt0 ask around community for an IRC 101 instructor: WIP 17:14:04 tut tut 17:14:06 #undo 17:14:06 Removing item from minutes: ACTION by FranciscoD at 17:14:00 : FranciscoD bt0 ask around community for an IRC 101 instructor: WIP 17:14:10 #action FranciscoD bt0 ask around community for an IRC 101 instructor 17:14:16 upps, switching to telegram 17:14:55 Done 17:14:55 #info x3mboy comment on ticket with link about fedmsg on discourse instance: PENDING (depends on how we switch to discourse) 17:15:05 #action x3mboy comment on ticket with link about fedmsg on discourse instance 17:15:29 #info FranciscoD get bluejeans link and summary for magazine post for L10N 101 session: PENDING (we have a date but not these details yet) 17:15:38 #action FranciscoD get bluejeans link and summary for magazine post for L10N 101 session 17:15:52 How are we to get bluejeans links? Do we ask bex to set it up for us? 17:16:46 I'm sure there's a ticket where this was discussed.. 17:16:48 can't find it 17:17:12 Ah, here it is: https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/83 17:17:39 I'll comment on it and let bex know 17:17:46 I hadn't realised it was blocked on us 17:18:07 #action FranciscoD reply to https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/83 to let bex know that we'd like rooms for classroom sessions 17:18:16 Yeah, sounds like we can use the bex instance 17:18:40 #info FranciscoD get magazine draft ready for LaTeX 101 session: WIP (I have a local draft) 17:18:53 #action FranciscoD update magazine draft for LaTeX 101 and update ticket 17:19:13 #info FranciscoD tag ask-fedora tickts as "future-meeting" and "on-hold": DONE (as you'd have noticed from all the fedmsg activity that day!) 17:19:31 #info alciregi bt0 x3mboy hellbanger[m] FranciscoD : confirm dates with various instructors and request drafts for magazine posts ASAP: WIP 17:19:55 Cool 17:20:00 #info x3mboy file ticket for using youtube live instead of jitsi etc: PENDING 17:20:09 * FranciscoD cant find a ticket 17:20:11 FranciscoD: Does silverblue classroom still needs an instructor? 17:20:17 #action x3mboy file ticket for using youtube live instead of jitsi etc: PENDING 17:20:33 hellbanger[m]: we'll go over the classroom sessions now, a minute 17:20:44 okay :) 17:21:09 #topic Tickets marked for discussion (next-meeting) 17:21:43 #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/100: classroom magazine post template 17:22:03 #info bt0 set this up: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom/magazine_template 17:22:48 Looks good to me. What do the others think? 17:22:55 I did a little draft, is far from my original idea but we have many variations 17:23:20 @bt0dotninja: i think it's a good starting point. We can tweak it as we go on? 17:23:37 It's great. 17:24:19 Sounds good 17:24:26 Should we OK it and add a link to the main classroom wiki page? 17:24:30 +1s etc please? 17:24:31 +1 17:24:36 seen good 17:24:38 +1 17:24:43 +1 17:24:50 +1 17:25:49 #agreed Classroom magazine template is good: add link to wiki page, close ticket (4x+1,0x0, 0x-1) 17:26:10 @bt0dotninja: could you please add a link to the main classroom page? I'll action you? 17:26:24 Yes please 17:26:40 pagure.issue.edit -- ankursinha edited the close_status and status fields of ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#100 https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/100 17:26:41 pagure.issue.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#100: "Fedora classroom templates" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/100#comment-544486 17:26:53 #action bt0 add link to classroom magazine template to main page 17:27:41 @bt0dotninja: the stats toolkit is still a WIP, so skipping that ticket at the moment 17:27:54 #topic F29 classrooms readiness status check 17:27:54 Ok 17:28:26 #info Silverblue: we have date and instructor, need magazine post 17:28:47 hellbanger[m]: please update the tags on that ticket, and open a new ticket for "silveblue session needs magazine post" if we don't have one already 17:29:11 okay 17:29:21 We still need a date, by the way. We only have a range at the moment, but that's good enough at present 17:29:36 #action hellbanger[m] will open a ticket to track the magazine post for silverblue session 17:29:58 How do I edit the tags? 17:30:04 #action hellbanger[m] needs to speak to instructor to fix a date/time for the session 17:30:14 hellbanger[m]: click the edit thing next to "metadata" 17:30:50 hellbanger[m]: ah, wait---what FAS are you using for pagure? I need to add it to the -join pagure group 17:31:27 hellbangerkarna but I intend on using akarshanbiswas, 17:31:33 should I add akarshanbiswas? the ticket is assigned to hellbanger, though 17:31:41 * hellbanger[m] uploaded an image: Screenshot from 2018-12-04 23-00-49.png (28KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/gJBLFNOfDcKWUcbpuVrfWEqK > 17:31:49 right, I'll add akarshanbiswas then and we'll assign tickets to that one from now 17:32:07 okay 17:32:08 hellbanger[m]: you should probably document somewhere that they both belong to the you 17:32:11 or it'll confuse people 17:32:43 I will disable the previous fas once this catch up. 17:32:53 pagure.issue.tag.removed -- ankursinha removed the S: Needs instructor tags from ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#78 https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/78 17:32:54 pagure.issue.assigned.added -- ankursinha assigned ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#78 to akarshanbiswas https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/78 17:32:55 pagure.issue.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#78: "Possible classroom session: Silverblue" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/78#comment-544488 17:33:38 okay got it. Thanks 17:33:48 #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/80: L10N session needs magazine post, we have a date 17:34:16 #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/81: badges session does not yet have a date 17:34:34 #action FranciscoD ping instructor again here: https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/657 (I'd pinged exactly 7 days ago) 17:34:54 #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/67: IRC 101: still needs an instructor 17:35:14 While it'll be nice to have this session, I personally dont find it as important as the other ones 17:35:28 Even if we don't manage to have it, I won't mind 17:35:48 * FranciscoD doesn't have cycles to take this up too 17:36:01 pagure.issue.new -- akarshanbiswas opened a new ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#131: "Silverblue session needs magazine post" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/131 17:36:20 #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/97: Selinux: has week blocked, needs magazine post 17:36:28 #action FranciscoD ping instructor for a magazine post 17:37:04 #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/64: containers 101 + podman: has draft ready 17:37:18 @bt0dotninja: has it been reviewed yet? 17:37:29 The session is next week, so maybe getting it published this week would be good? 17:37:37 It's scheduled noe 17:37:38 Now 17:37:50 Awesome. Should I close the ticket then? 17:37:57 Yes 17:37:59 #info Current F29 schedule: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom/F29 17:38:24 pagure.issue.edit -- ankursinha edited the close_status and status fields of ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#103 https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/103 17:38:25 pagure.issue.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#103: "Podman classroom session: needs magazine post" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/103#comment-544492 17:38:33 I wish they'd update pagure to show closed blocker tickets quickly too 17:38:42 Otherwise one has to check them all to see what their status is 17:39:08 pagure.issue.new -- akarshanbiswas opened a new ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#132: "Silverblue session requires a date" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/132 17:39:45 Hrm, I'd filed a ticket about it, but I cant find it 17:40:53 #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/69: LaTeX 101: date to be picked from remaining slots, magazine post still needed 17:40:59 Ctrl+f don't works for me the last time 17:41:26 #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/77: VIM 102: date to be picked from remaining slots also, and magazine post also needed 17:42:09 #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/120: buildah : needs-instructor? 17:42:21 @alciregi: we still need an instructor for this, dont we? 17:42:41 have any of the people dwalsh suggested volunteered? 17:42:49 #action FranciscoD ping ticket 77 17:43:07 pagure.issue.comment.added -- ankursinha commented on ticket fedora-join/Fedora-Join#120: "Possible Classroom: Buildah 101" https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/120#comment-544494 17:43:56 #info Summary of F29 sessions: we have 7 sessions in the pipeline, may have 2 more. 17:44:03 That's not too bad 17:44:10 What can we do better here? 17:44:13 Any thoughts? 17:45:11 We needs improve the way to recruit instructors 17:45:22 I think the clasrrom depend of the instructor 17:45:33 we have a jam there 17:45:35 I'm not sure who 17:45:45 +1 17:46:07 At the moment, we're individually trying to chase people 17:46:13 to get them to volunteer 17:46:19 we've got to find a better way 17:46:54 Like announcements ? 17:46:58 A commblog call for instructors? 17:47:10 Eduardo has joined the Telegram Group! 17:47:21 yeh, we can do that, but that doesn't seem to get folks to volunteer 17:47:40 should we focus more on asking people what sessions they want and to suggest instructors for them? 17:47:45 Request a space in the Ben Cotton "needs help" section ? 17:48:07 hrm, but if folks outside the community suggest sessions, they wont know who to recommend 17:48:22 AH! YES! We can at least ask bcotton to mention it in the fpgm reports 17:48:47 I thought bcotton picks up things---but maybe we're not on their radar yet 17:48:58 We can e-mail them and ask them 17:49:13 I think the question is what can be important to recluit a volunter? 17:49:26 Should I write a commblog post on "Classroom plan for F29" that includes the current status? 17:50:10 hhlp: we've tried saying "it's good marketing", "It'll get more people involved in your team", and badges 17:50:16 but sometimes these are not enough 17:50:31 yep 17:50:49 would anyone have the time to write an update on Fedora-join's activities every 2 weeks or so? 17:50:58 I do a weekly post for neurofedora, for example 17:51:05 it sort of keeps the community informed 17:51:20 where? 17:51:25 magazine planet 17:51:30 hhlp: could be private blogs or could be the commblog too 17:51:48 should we try to do this? We could take turns writing the post? 17:51:49 We also has to adjust to their time schedule as well. 17:52:01 maybe one post a month (4 weeks)? 17:52:09 +1 17:52:23 hellbanger[m]: the instructors? We let them do it whenever they want, so that should not be a problem. 17:52:35 It's convincing people to instruct sessions that's the issue 17:52:46 +1 17:53:16 OK, let me file a ticket about us writing a monthly post on the commblog about Fedora Join's updates 17:53:27 next week, we'll vote on it 17:53:31 Sound OK? 17:53:44 that'll give folks who aren't here a chance to join the decision too 17:53:45 Yes 17:53:49 yes 17:54:08 #action FranciscoD file ticket suggesting a monthly Fedora Join post on the commblog 17:54:15 About the topics of the classroom, maybe we can take ideas from the technologies involved in the current (and future) Fedora objectives https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/objectives/ 17:54:28 @bt0dotninja: +1 17:54:39 we tried to do that this time too. Hence the containers etc 17:54:53 again, the bottleneck really is getting someone to teach the thing 17:55:12 True 17:55:24 Can we give more reward? Should we try to get t-shirts for them or something? 17:55:35 or a hardware gift, like a rasp pi? 17:55:43 We can ask to mindshare 17:55:45 depends on whether the council will help us with the money 17:55:55 yeh, mindshare would be able to help 17:56:00 sound instereting 17:56:05 cool 17:56:10 We'll have to wait for the elections I suppose? 17:56:12 Also we have a insider now promote it ;) 17:56:31 Wait for the elections sounds good 17:57:05 #info IDEA: we can ask mindshare/council if it's possible to have rewards for instructors such as t-shirts or rasp pis; we need to get more folks to volunteer as instructors 17:57:14 OK. 3 minutes for open floor 17:57:19 #topic Open floor 17:57:34 We're OK with the sessions, but let's ping the instructors and keep things moving 17:58:02 Oh, before we go! 17:58:15 #info We got replies from mattdm about Ask Fedora 17:58:17 Yes, also the holidays always slowdown the project until January 17:58:29 most of you are CCd, but I will summarise for the logs 17:58:44 #info Moving would be easier than migrating, also lets us clean up 17:58:56 #undo 17:58:56 Removing item from minutes: INFO by FranciscoD at 17:58:44 : Moving would be easier than migrating, also lets us clean up 17:59:06 #info Askbot to discourse: Moving would be easier than migrating, also lets us clean up 17:59:37 #info Askbot to discourse: possible to have separate instance, but requires us to pay for it, so we're not yet sure if it can be done 18:00:11 :( 18:00:26 #info Askbot to discourse: can have non FAS login methods, but that makes data gathering harder: In my e-mail, Ive asked mattdm what data we're looking for and noted the stats plugin that hhlp found 18:00:32 hhlp: was there anything else? 18:00:47 nop anything else 18:00:51 Plesae feel free to reply to our e-mails. It isn't limited to mattdm and me :) 18:00:59 OK 18:01:24 #info Askbot to discourse: we're waiting on more info from mattdm. The finance bit is to be discussed at the council meeting he said. 18:01:47 #action FranciscoD check next coucil meeting minutes to see what was discussed 18:01:51 OK. 18:01:56 Anything before I close? 18:02:27 yes 18:02:28 Not from me 18:02:53 the statis and metric is inside discourse but i can't find any screenshot 18:03:05 ah, hrm 18:03:19 hhlp: let's wait for mattdm to reply before investigating further? 18:03:24 yes 18:03:33 we need to know what data he wants, and then we can see what can be done 18:03:43 sure 18:04:01 #info Askbot to discourse: wait for mattdm to tell us what data he wants before investigating what discourse plugins can do 18:04:17 OK. Anything else before I close in 30 seconds? :) 18:04:35 nope 18:04:39 not for me 18:04:44 * hellbanger[m] yawns 18:04:56 #endmeeting