19:06:04 <kushal> #startmeeting Fedora Cloud SIG
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19:06:10 <kushal> #topic Roll Call
19:06:15 <dustymabe> .hellomynameis dustymabe
19:06:16 <kushal> .hellomynameis kushal
19:06:16 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dusty@dustymabe.com>
19:06:19 <zodbot> kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' <kushaldas@gmail.com>
19:06:28 <jbrooks> .hellomynameis jasonbrooks
19:06:28 <zodbot> jbrooks: jasonbrooks 'None' <JBROOKS@REDHAT.COM>
19:06:42 <number80> .hellomynameis hguemar
19:06:43 <zodbot> number80: hguemar 'Haïkel Guémar' <karlthered@gmail.com>
19:06:47 <roshi> .hello roshi
19:06:48 <zodbot> roshi: roshi 'Mike Ruckman' <mruckman@redhat.com>
19:06:56 <nzwulfin> .hello nzwulfin
19:06:57 <zodbot> nzwulfin: Sorry, but you don't exist
19:07:17 * nzwulfin pumps fist
19:07:24 * oddshocks pops in
19:07:25 <kushal> .fasinfo nzwulfin
19:07:26 <zodbot> kushal: User "nzwulfin" doesn't exist
19:07:28 <oddshocks> .hello oddshocks
19:07:29 <zodbot> oddshocks: oddshocks 'David Gay' <dgay@redhat.com>
19:07:31 <nzwulfin> .hello mmicene
19:07:32 <zodbot> nzwulfin: mmicene 'Matt Micene' <nzwulfin@gmail.com>
19:09:00 <kushal> No clue why I started the meeting in the other channel :(
19:09:03 <kushal> Any moving on.
19:09:17 <kushal> #topic Action items from the last meeting
19:09:34 <kushal> * jzb send patch for release notes about UID/GID change, verify text
19:09:35 <kushal> with walters for sanity before sending.
19:09:35 <kushal> * mattdm to look at string freeze as it relates to release notes
19:09:35 <kushal> * jzb follow up on rpm-ostree article w/walters
19:09:35 <kushal> * mattdm to ping lsm5 about f22 upload readiness
19:09:35 <kushal> * kushal create release checklist for Cloud
19:09:39 <kushal> * jzb apologize to kushal for assigning tasks when he's not here.
19:10:12 <dustymabe> kushal: you like your action item from the meeting you weren't at?
19:10:12 <kushal> jzb, is missing today.
19:10:20 <kushal> dustymabe, hehe :p
19:10:40 <kushal> dustymabe, if you all want it, lets be it :D
19:10:55 * mattdm is here
19:11:00 <kushal> For the release checklist, I started working on http://paste.fedoraproject.org/223952/14900414/
19:11:08 * mattdm actually followed up on action item so that's good :)
19:11:23 <dustymabe> mattdm: welcome
19:11:28 <kushal> mattdm, wrote to me with few more detailed point which can be added to the checklist
19:11:33 <kushal> mattdm, hello there :)
19:11:37 <mattdm> hi :)
19:11:39 * number80 waves
19:13:00 <roshi> o/
19:13:09 <kushal> Any comments on the checklist I wrote?
19:13:16 * roshi reads now
19:13:46 <roshi> looks good to me
19:14:07 <number80> ack
19:14:08 <kushal> roshi, Anything you want to add?
19:14:14 <kushal> number80, ^^^
19:14:28 <number80> kushal: +1 good for me
19:14:41 <kushal> Tomorrow I will send in the updated checklist to the cloud list.
19:14:45 <roshi> perhaps break it down into priorities - blocking gets tested first, etc
19:14:47 <oddshocks> Cool :)
19:15:21 <dustymabe> +1
19:15:46 <kushal> roshi, Okay.
19:15:51 <roshi> make sure we're all on the same page with all the images and whatnot we have
19:16:01 <kushal> Yes.
19:16:12 <walters> worth noting here all image composition in 22 is broken for the last few days
19:16:52 <sgallagh> walters: No RC1 images were produced for Cloud?
19:17:00 <walters> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=all&owner=masher&view=flat&method=createImage&order=-id
19:17:04 <walters> that's what i poll
19:17:22 <kushal> walters, I can see https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_RC1/Cloud_Images/x86_64/Images/
19:17:28 <sgallagh> so what is in http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_RC1/Cloud_Images/x86_64/Images/ ?
19:17:35 <sgallagh> ... sorry for the dupe
19:17:37 <oddshocks> According to datagrepper, the last images Fedimg picked up were the 20150519 builds 18 hours ago.
19:17:44 <kushal> sgallagh, /me fast :p
19:17:50 <kushal> oddshocks, yup.
19:17:52 <walters> ah...
19:17:57 <kushal> May be it got fixed.
19:17:57 <number80> :)
19:18:23 <walters> i suspect those are old
19:18:31 <walters> but someone would have to ask releng
19:19:07 <nirik> one is the branched compose. Other is the RC1 compose. Seperate things.
19:19:31 <nirik> RC1 is pulling in a few non stable yet packages, including one that fixes image creation.
19:19:42 <walters> confusing, but ok =)
19:19:46 <sgallagh> /me stops panicking
19:19:57 <mattdm> this particular confusion is on the slate for eventual correction in the releng process
19:20:13 <mattdm> (rc and tc composes will stop being special)
19:20:19 <nirik> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1222997 is causing the nightly composes (using only stable packages) to fail to make images
19:20:28 <nirik> but we pulled in an update to fix that for RC1/RC2.
19:21:10 <kushal> nirik, Thanks :)
19:21:28 <walters> oh, the 22 base vagrant boxes came in too eh?
19:21:46 <nirik> no idea. ;)
19:21:49 <kushal> walters, yes :)
19:22:04 <kushal> walters, and also passed the tests :)
19:23:13 <kushal> #action kushal will send in the updated cloud release checklist to the mailing list.
19:23:24 <kushal> https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/report/9 contains only two tickets, both jzb
19:23:36 <kushal> I guess we can skip to open floor tonight.
19:23:40 <kushal> Is that okay?
19:23:57 <dustymabe> skip so you can go to sleep?
19:23:57 <number80> no topic in mind so i'm fine wit that
19:23:59 <roshi> yeah
19:24:19 <dustymabe> I was just going to bring up that I'm working with DO on F22 cloud and Atomic
19:24:39 <dustymabe> hopefully everything will be worked out for cloud base for launch
19:24:41 <roshi> sweet
19:24:48 <dustymabe> atomic is a bit more complicated
19:24:50 <roshi> let me know if you want another tester on that :)
19:24:58 <dustymabe> roshi: will do
19:25:07 <kushal> #topic Open Floor
19:25:09 <dustymabe> also one question I had is who is working on GCE?
19:25:26 <dustymabe> I noticed someone asked a question in the ticket but no one responded
19:25:26 <kushal> dustymabe, Not anyone I know.
19:25:33 <dustymabe> kushal: ok
19:25:39 <oddshocks> dustymabe: IIRC, legal is *still* working on HP.
19:25:40 <dustymabe> I may take the lead on that
19:25:50 <oddshocks> I haven't heard of progress on GCE.
19:25:58 <dustymabe> oddshocks: do you know who is working on it?
19:25:58 <kushal> I am also planning to mail the image team of GCE
19:26:13 <number80> dustymabe: nobody
19:26:14 <dustymabe> kushal: can you add me?
19:26:21 <kushal> dustymabe, I will add you in the mail.
19:26:33 <dustymabe> I am working with microsoft on getting fedora into azure
19:26:40 <oddshocks> dustymabe: HP or GCE? I don't think anyone is on GCE. HP is stuck in legal, and has been since like... last summer or longer :P
19:26:43 <dustymabe> they have been very willing to work together
19:27:02 <oddshocks> dustymabe: I have some azure contacts, if that might ever help
19:27:08 <oddshocks> A close friend of mine works on the Azure team
19:27:12 <mattdm> The HP engineering people have been very good to us.
19:27:24 <dustymabe> oddshocks: ok. if I hit problems with my current contact I may go through you
19:27:29 <oddshocks> dustymabe: Sure thing!
19:27:37 <dustymabe> is it just me or is legal like a black hole
19:27:38 <mattdm> I think from a market perspective, though, right now, Azure, GCE, and AWS are the places we need to be
19:27:49 <mattdm> with a ★ for digital ocean too
19:27:56 <dustymabe> mattdm: :)
19:28:01 <oddshocks> Makes sense to me
19:28:05 <kushal> mattdm, :)
19:28:27 <dustymabe> mattdm: how can we help legal progress in the future?
19:28:37 <kushal> mattdm, I talked with linode while in PyCon, they make some changes to the way the image boots/kernel and use it.
19:28:38 <walters> current docker base image has the "drop grub2" fix in RC1, that's good
19:28:43 <dustymabe> It's really hurting our ability to make progress in some of these areas
19:28:49 <kushal> walters, +1 :)
19:29:17 <dustymabe> they never really got back to me on digital ocean last year but I just used my personal accounts and was able to get stuff in
19:29:25 <mattdm> dustymabe: I wish I knew.
19:30:05 <dustymabe> mattdm: noted.. If i get a chance I will try to gain some more insight into those processes
19:30:19 <dustymabe> and try to understand how we can move things along quicker in the future
19:30:37 <oddshocks> dustymabe: That'd be great. It'd be cool to add support for other platforms into Fedimg finally
19:30:52 <dustymabe> oddshocks: yep. amazon isn't the only player in the game
19:30:56 <number80> dustymabe: who are you dealing with ?
19:31:10 <dustymabe> Azure and Digital Ocean
19:31:24 <number80> dustymabe: no I mean in Legal
19:31:49 <dustymabe> oh. there is a team of like 3 people. mattdm is on the mail threads
19:32:07 <dustymabe> i'm being patient :)
19:32:14 <number80> dustymabe: I'd suggest pinging M. Fontana (he returned RH recently)
19:32:23 <dustymabe> number80: yep he is on them
19:32:47 <number80> :(
19:32:49 <kushal> dustymabe, just ping him once more.
19:33:17 <dustymabe> don't worry I'll be following up in a reasonable manner
19:33:26 <number80> from my experience, the others are slowpokes and ununderstandable by a normal human being
19:33:45 <dustymabe> ok.. i'm done for open floor
19:35:18 <roshi> I have nothing, except that I'm back now
19:35:24 <roshi> so you'll be seeing me again :)
19:35:33 <kushal> roshi, Welcome back :)
19:35:47 <roshi> :)
19:36:56 <kushal> So anyone else?
19:37:47 <dustymabe> set fuse
19:37:48 <kushal> I will be writing a post explaining how to use Fedora Cloud base vagrant boxes.
19:37:55 <dustymabe> kushal++
19:37:55 <zodbot> dustymabe: Karma for kushal changed to 5:  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/macaron-cookie-i
19:38:09 <dustymabe> man I gotta stop giving those out so easily
19:38:16 <kushal> dustymabe, hehe
19:38:20 <dustymabe> I'm too used to it not really meaning anything
19:38:43 <kushal> dustymabe, till one can convert them to bitcoins, you can keep giving them out :)
19:38:44 <oddshocks> dustymabe: well, you can only be +1/+0/-1 on someone, so it's not like you can give him 5 of them in a week or anything :P
19:38:57 <dustymabe> ahh
19:38:59 <oddshocks> it wont change to +2 if you do it again
19:39:00 <dustymabe> ok
19:39:06 <oddshocks> (a decision I like)
19:39:32 <kushal> oddshocks, a selfie will do?
19:40:13 <oddshocks> You lost me :P
19:40:37 <dustymabe> ok set fuse.. go
19:41:26 <oddshocks> Nothing else from me
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19:42:42 <kushal> #endmeeting