17:04:21 #startmeeting FAmSCo 2013-11-25 17:04:22 Meeting started Mon Nov 25 17:04:21 2013 UTC. The chair is cwickert. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:04:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:04:38 #topic Roll call 17:04:42 .fas cwickert 17:04:44 cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' 17:04:50 .fas tuanta 17:04:51 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 17:05:01 .fas lbazan 17:05:02 LoKoMurdoK: lbazan 'Luis Enrique Bazán De León' 17:05:25 #info sesivany sent regrets, he his on holidays 17:05:37 .fas aeperezt 17:05:37 aeperezt: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' 17:08:04 * cwickert counts 4 people 17:08:16 who is missing? 17:08:27 robyduck: ping 17:08:38 LoKoMurdoK, thanks 17:08:56 aeperezt: :-) 17:09:16 and bckurera 17:09:27 does anybody know what's up with bckurera? 17:09:31 thanks tuanta 17:09:53 cwickert: I have no idea 17:10:09 I mean, we warned him we would remove him from famsco, he showed up once or twice, but it's the same story again 17:10:40 cwickert, right 17:10:48 should we ask sesivany to get in touch with him again? 17:11:01 it is closed to the next election now 17:11:02 or should we just wait? I mean, the elections are not too far away 17:11:05 ok 17:11:17 cwickert, right 17:11:23 everybody agrees that we wait? 17:11:28 +1 17:11:33 +1 17:11:39 +1 17:11:55 I think we do not need to do anything, just wait for the next election 17:12:07 #agreed: FAmSCo is unhappy about the repeated absence of bckurera but will note remove him from the committee as the elections are around the corner 17:12:19 ok, let's move on 17:12:32 tuanta, agreed but we need to make sure that this kind of things do not happen 17:12:49 card holder? 17:12:49 the same happen before 17:13:02 * cwickert logs in... 17:13:23 when we wanted to do something the term was over so we have horphan seat for a while 17:13:27 next topic? 17:13:31 #link: the agenda for today#s meeting can be found https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/report/9 17:13:47 seems outdated 17:14:17 anything we actually have to discuss? 17:14:36 .famsco 333 17:14:36 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/333 17:14:47 I have some updates about CC card holder for APAC 17:14:51 #topic RH Community Credit Card holder for APAC 17:15:01 tuanta: please go ahead 17:15:08 I put them to the ticket too 17:15:27 tuanta, did you contact him or Suehelen 17:15:34 finally, I got confirmation from Kushal 17:15:58 he told me that he is leaving Red Hat 17:16:02 aeperezt: you mean Ruth? 17:16:07 cwickert, yes 17:16:30 ok 17:16:36 so, now he is not Red Hat employee any more 17:16:37 I think there is not much we can do 17:16:49 except to poke rsuehle 17:17:26 I think rsuehle and rbergeron need to tell their boss(es) that we have no candidates who work at RH 17:17:49 In this case, I think KageSenshi is more appropriated since he has been approved by APAC community in the regional meeting 17:17:56 so they need to talk to the finance guys and make it clear that we cannot fulfill this requirement 17:18:09 yes, cwickert 17:18:43 tuanta izhar is RH employee? 17:18:48 s/appropriated/suitable (sorry, my bad English) 17:18:48 no 17:18:54 no 17:19:12 so the way forward is: ask rsuehle and rbergeron to talk to finance, and then make KageSenshi the CC holder 17:19:18 does everybody agree? 17:19:28 +1 17:19:34 +1 17:19:42 yes, I think it is the best way now 17:19:43 +1 17:20:12 I can take this action 17:20:19 please mark one to me 17:20:51 +1 17:21:56 #agreed tuanta to ask rsuehle and rbergeron to talk to the finance people and convince them to allow a non-RH person as CC holder for APAC. Once they have green light, make KageSenshi the CC holder 17:22:19 next topic EMEA mentor nomination? ticket #352? 17:22:54 .famsco 352 17:22:56 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/352 17:23:06 LoKoMurdoK, that ticket was voted before 17:23:18 #topic EMEA Mentor Nomination: Keiran Smith 17:23:23 this was approved already 17:23:31 but I wonder how we move on? 17:23:32 cwickert, right 17:23:38 it is on the ticket 17:23:44 aeperezt: ok 17:24:03 it's final decision, right? 17:24:07 yes 17:24:08 any other steps? 17:24:09 tuanta, yes 17:24:23 tuanta: can you make him sponsor in FAS? 17:24:40 yes, I think that is the final step 17:24:46 I will do 17:24:59 please mark me one more action 17:25:53 cwickert: I think we can close this ticket? 17:25:54 * tuanta is looking up to make sure his name is listed on the Ambassador Mentors wiki 17:26:06 #action tuanta to add affix to the sponsors in FAS 17:26:31 #undo 17:26:31 Removing item from minutes: 17:26:38 tuanta: just upgraded him 17:26:45 so FAS is done 17:26:47 yes, I know 17:26:53 only the wiki needs to be edited 17:27:04 I did it 20 seconds ago, you cannot know it ;) 17:27:04 I will do it now. Just a moment 17:27:09 ok 17:27:15 any other business? 17:27:24 s/business/tickets 17:27:37 if not, I suggest we continue with the schedule 17:27:43 thanks :) 17:28:15 no from me 17:28:19 nop 17:28:20 so we can continue 17:28:37 yes, next topic 17:29:34 #topic Schedule 17:29:45 #link http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-ambassadors-tasks.html 17:29:59 so, we need to hurry up with release events 17:30:09 it's my fault I did not send out the announcement yet 17:31:01 some teams are preparing already but it's better to send an official announcement 17:31:18 #info official release is 2013-12-10, let's hurry up 17:31:29 I will send the call out right after this meeting 17:31:30 ok 17:31:42 #action cwickert to send out the call for release events 17:32:41 #action cwickert to send aeperezt the pins 17:32:47 aeperezt: I will do this tomorrow 17:32:59 cwickert, thanks 17:33:12 are all regions prepared? do you have enough swag? 17:33:20 I think EMEA and APAC should be fine 17:33:31 what about NA and LATAM? 17:34:12 cwickert, we need to made media for f20 we are low on swags and budget for next quarter, but we have enought to cover release parties and produce media 17:35:05 ouch 17:35:16 did we discuss media at all? 17:35:35 on famsco not 17:35:44 locally? 17:35:53 we have a reserve to produce f20 media locally 17:35:58 latam 17:36:10 at least not sure other regions 17:36:21 * cwickert does not know if it was discussed in EMEA 17:38:21 * cwickert still looks 17:38:23 it has not been discussed in APAC yet but I think we will produce them locally per country as usual 17:39:01 EMEA request: https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/307 17:39:36 we have a chance to distribute them if we can organize APAC FAD on January, but I think almost release parities are over at that time 17:39:42 what if we produced all media in EMEA? 17:40:18 cwickert, not sure it will be ready 17:40:26 on time to have them on Latam 17:40:42 we produce on Brazil 17:40:42 how long does it take? 17:41:01 the problem is to send all media or not 17:41:02 it is not easy to distribute them, especially in APAC 17:41:27 my idea was: have everything produced in EMEA, then ship them to hubs, say to tuanta and aeperezt 17:41:30 we know we can produce on brasil and distribute on brasil 17:41:36 and from their they can be distributed 17:41:40 swag is ok but we need media in a short time (almost for release parties) 17:41:45 but it will be at least one more week 17:41:57 we usually need a week to produce them in EMEA 17:42:09 but we would need one week to ship them to LATAM and APAC 17:42:11 cwickert, that could work but will depend on how much it cost to ship and then we can redistribute 17:42:18 and then local distribution starts 17:42:25 but I guess it is to slow, right? 17:42:45 right 17:42:46 and local distribution is probably expensive 17:42:56 ok, this is too late for this cycle 17:43:06 we should evaluate this for next year 17:43:16 can we estimate how long it takes to each country? 17:43:24 I mean, we need numbers, how long it takes and how much it is 17:43:33 yes, cwickert 17:43:44 so from EMEA to anywhere in the world should not take more than a week 17:43:58 but anyway, let's just keep the idea in mind 17:44:08 cwickert, on latam any standard mail shipping take 2 week at minimal from Panama 17:44:14 I will file a ticket so nothing gets lost 17:44:17 should we note to a ticket? 17:44:19 to other countries on latam 17:44:21 +1 17:44:46 +1 cwickert, I meant 17:44:49 #action cwickert to bring up the idea of a central media production and distribution as ticket. it's unclear if it works, but we should think about it 17:44:59 #undo 17:44:59 Removing item from minutes: 17:45:05 so what ever time it take from emea to Panama we have to add 2 weeks on shipping 17:45:05 #agreed cwickert to bring up the idea of a central media production and distribution as ticket. it's unclear if it works, but we should think about it 17:45:10 #action cwickert to bring up the idea of a central media production and distribution as ticket. it's unclear if it works, but we should think about it 17:45:12 ok 17:45:16 so not sure we have time for f20 17:45:29 aeperezt: no, just do as you had planned for F20 17:45:41 cwickert, ok 17:45:51 does anybody know the status of the shirts? 17:45:51 yes, it is for next release(s) 17:46:45 robyduck updated something in the last meeting 17:46:53 * tuanta is looking for the logs 17:47:01 first do a test with something simple.. sent anything and check the time to arrive, $$$, others.. 17:47:34 #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-11-18/famsco.2013-11-18-17.02.html 17:49:13 according the plan as robyduck said, I think the shirts are printing now 17:49:19 ok 17:50:07 but it's best to ask him for updates 17:50:23 tuanta: +1 17:51:19 anything to discuss today? 17:51:36 tuanta, no from me 17:51:47 nop! 17:51:50 #action if you have anybody who deserves a 10th anniversary shirt and who is not yet listed on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F20_anniversary_tshirt , please let robyduck know. I am thinking of long-term contributors with great impact who are not part of any group like FAmSCo, FESCo etc, e. g. (former) packagers 17:52:00 but I think that's it 17:52:06 any other business? 17:52:39 * cwickert will close the meeing in 3 17:52:41 2 17:52:43 1 17:52:47 #endmeeting