15:00:45 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora ARM & AArch64 Status Meeting 15:00:45 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Feb 10 15:00:45 2015 UTC. The chair is pwhalen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:45 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:45 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen bconoboy pbrobinson dgilmore hrw jsmith kyle 15:00:45 <zodbot> Current chairs: bconoboy dgilmore hrw jsmith kyle pbrobinson pwhalen 15:01:01 <pwhalen> .fas pwhalen 15:01:02 <zodbot> pwhalen: pwhalen 'Paul Whalen' <pwhalen@redhat.com> 15:01:07 <pwhalen> good day everyone :) 15:02:04 * pbrobinson is here 15:02:49 <dgilmore> hola 15:03:51 <Affix> .fas Affix 15:03:52 <zodbot> Affix: pyrox 'Keiran Smith' <jan@fedoraproject.org> - robheston 'Robert Heston' <rob@sungraffix.net> - affix 'Keiran Smith' <fedora@affix.me> 15:05:03 <Affix> thought if i want to get involved I might as well be here 15:05:16 <pwhalen> thanks for coming Affix 15:05:24 <Affix> :) 15:05:24 <yselkowitz> .hellomynameis yselkowitz 15:05:27 <zodbot> yselkowitz: yselkowitz 'Yaakov Selkowitz' <yselkowi@redhat.com> 15:05:34 <pwhalen> howdy yselkowitz 15:05:42 <Affix> hi yselkowitz 15:05:48 <pwhalen> #topic 1) ==== F22 branching ==== 15:05:58 <dgilmore> it is still underway 15:05:59 <pbrobinson> so F-22 is branching as we speak 15:06:29 <pbrobinson> will be done on all arches so it's more a heads up that as of RSN we'll be building for F-22 and F-23 will be rawhide 15:06:51 <pbrobinson> but it's something to be aware of for ARMv7 and aarch64 15:07:00 <pbrobinson> nothing more really to say on that 15:07:08 <pwhalen> #info branching underway, shortly F23 will become rawhide 15:07:13 <pwhalen> thanks for the heads up 15:07:40 <pwhalen> #topic 2) ==== 3.19 Testing/Status ==== 15:08:05 <pwhalen> #info 3.19 final is out now 15:08:19 <pwhalen> #link http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=609892 15:08:31 <pbrobinson> 3.19 GA is in rawhide now so it would be good for people to test and report issues to the list or BZ 15:09:04 <pbrobinson> similarly uboot 2015.01 is in rawhide too, and before long we'll be rebasing to 2015.04 RC series 15:09:44 <pwhalen> i just started testing myself, but it did clear up an issue with chrony 15:09:51 <dgilmore> likely this week u-boot will get updated 15:10:04 <pwhalen> speaking of the kernel (chrony issue) 15:10:53 <pwhalen> dgilmore, any changes expected? or too many to list 15:11:13 <pwhalen> is there something in particular we'll be interested in 15:11:19 <dgilmore> pwhalen: right now all the upstream changes 15:11:30 <dgilmore> I am trying to pull together cubox-i patches 15:12:25 <pwhalen> #info U-Boot to be rebased to 2015.04 RC series RSN 15:12:35 <pbrobinson> I think we should push rc1 before that though 15:12:42 <pbrobinson> we'll be enabling a bunch of new devices 15:12:58 <pbrobinson> and there will be, if only basic, display support for a bunch of sunxi devices 15:13:17 <dgilmore> rc1 i plan to push this week 15:13:27 <dgilmore> then enable new boards upstream 15:13:28 <pwhalen> the sunxi stuff is looking great, kudos to them 15:13:34 <dgilmore> and get things we want in 15:13:41 <pbrobinson> kudos to primarily Hans 15:13:46 <pwhalen> indeed 15:14:12 <pbrobinson> anyway I think that mostly covers kernel/u-boot stuff. More boards, more devices..... test test test and report issues/successes 15:14:35 <pwhalen> dgilmore, perhaps send a note to the list once we've got a RC build ready for testing 15:14:40 <dgilmore> \o/ 15:14:48 <dgilmore> pwhalen: will do 15:14:59 <pwhalen> #topic 3) ==== Package Status & Issues ==== 15:15:50 <pbrobinson> so there's issues with ghc on aarch64 but juhp is aware of them, he pushed a build to fix but missed that we need to re-bootstrap 15:16:09 <pbrobinson> there's a few ICEs with the new gcc5 on ARMv7 and I'm expecting some of the same on aarch64 TBH 15:16:17 <dgilmore> I fixed the arm KDE image composition this week, with the move to plasma5 it needed more disk space 15:16:28 <dgilmore> not really a package issue 15:16:44 <pbrobinson> other than that I think we're looking OK 15:17:11 <pbrobinson> we're a little bit behind at the moment due to everyone pushing all the bits in preparation for feature freeze/branching 15:17:38 <dgilmore> an issue that is out of our control 15:17:45 <pbrobinson> but most of those I believe atm are ghc packages 15:18:10 <pbrobinson> but once we get that fix landed we do get the full ghc stack and accleration on aarch64 (what ever that provides us!) 15:18:49 <pwhalen> testing f22 (20150207 latest nominated) Ive hit a few bugs that are related to chrony, caused issues with SSL certs using VNC, fails shortly after being started on the images. that should be resolved with the new kernel 15:19:10 <dgilmore> boost ghc are kinda broken on all arches 15:19:13 <dgilmore> lots of broken deps 15:19:32 <pbrobinson> yes, so the chrony issue is one that is on 32 bit platforms for both some of the 3.18 and 3.19 kernels 15:20:11 <pwhalen> ah, "cloud server" is still the default package selection from the server repo on pxe installs ... at least on text 15:20:59 <pwhalen> i thought that should have been fixed .. 15:21:33 <dgilmore> pwhalen: should be, its not a arm only issue though 15:21:53 <pwhalen> right, what i though as well. but i wanted to mention it.. will follow up after the meeting 15:22:44 <pwhalen> anyone hit any other problems? 15:22:58 <dgilmore> not yet 15:23:15 <dgilmore> pwhalen: I did enable docker on armv7hl this week 15:23:22 <dgilmore> the registry doesnt work 15:23:34 <dgilmore> but i made a base image manually and it loaded 15:23:49 <pwhalen> dgilmore, ive followed some of your chats about it 15:24:06 <dgilmore> so if people want it we will have some issues to resolve 15:24:50 <pwhalen> cool, imagine there will be some interest 15:25:08 <pwhalen> #topic 4) ==== F22 Feature Planning ==== 15:25:21 <dgilmore> too late 15:25:24 <dgilmore> plan for F23 15:25:52 <pwhalen> heh, i just mentioned that to Peter, he had something he wanted to discuss i think 15:26:37 <pbrobinson> not so much actual planning 15:26:46 <pbrobinson> but more things like rel-eng enablement 15:27:21 <pbrobinson> I plan to do kvm cloud images 15:27:37 <pbrobinson> and we do need to start planning and thinking towards F-23 15:28:03 <pwhalen> agreed, we should start that, say next week? 15:28:30 <pwhalen> we do have a half hour now, up to you gents 15:29:11 <dgilmore> f23 planning next week 15:29:18 <pbrobinson> agreed 15:29:30 <pwhalen> ok, sounds good. will try and get as many folks in as possible. 15:29:56 <pwhalen> any other relengy things to discuss here? 15:30:03 <pbrobinson> not really 15:30:07 <pwhalen> #topic 5) == Open Floor == 15:30:59 <dgilmore> only think i want to bring up is the KDE image 15:31:03 <oatley> i heard fedora might have some support for hikey already, is this correct? 15:31:20 <hrw> sorry for such late arrival 15:31:25 <dgilmore> talking to rex this week plasma5 requires 3d acceperation much like gnome shell 15:31:29 <pwhalen> howdy hrw :) 15:31:36 <pbrobinson> oatley: nope, we'll have a remix but not in mainline yet as it's not even begun to go upstream 15:31:59 <oatley> pbrobinson: ok, thanks :) 15:32:00 <pbrobinson> oatley: despite what jcm says. Although he might have a kernel somewhere 15:32:16 <hrw> pbrobinson: 96boards/hikey? 15:32:17 <oatley> haha yea, wasnt sure. 15:32:22 <pwhalen> dgilmore, if we have an image ill test it out today 15:32:32 <dgilmore> pwhalen: its in koji now 15:32:39 <pwhalen> ok, will do 15:32:45 <dgilmore> pwhalen: I really am not sure how well it will work 15:32:49 <pbrobinson> The 96boards are suppose to in their charter have upstream support..... they're off to a typical Linaro start :-/ 15:33:03 <dgilmore> pwhalen: but we should test as i suspect it will be slower than KDE in f21 and older 15:33:10 <pbrobinson> dgilmore: is that KDE5? 15:33:17 <pwhalen> the gnome image works, so hopefully 15:33:44 <dgilmore> pbrobinson: just that it needs 3d and much the same support as gnome-shell and such may not work as well as in teh past 15:33:56 <dgilmore> pwhalen: yes its a bit slow though 15:33:58 <pbrobinson> so it'll be SW rendering 15:34:14 <dgilmore> we may need to limit the hardware that we recoomend it on 15:34:16 <pbrobinson> it's a start, hoping we'll get decent Tegra K1 support for F-22 15:34:33 <dgilmore> hopefully we get excellent Tegra K1 support 15:34:43 <pbrobinson> and may be even something with imx6 if only a side repo people can add 15:34:54 * pbrobinson needs more round tuits 15:34:56 <dgilmore> pwhalen: so mostly its a FYI something we need to consider 15:35:04 <yselkowitz> speaking of gnome, I've been working on gnome-flashback 15:36:14 <dgilmore> yselkowitz: what is that? 15:36:55 <yselkowitz> gnome-panel, gnome-applets, metacity, plus a new component which fills in the gaps which have been moved to gnome-shell (e.g. desktop backgrounds prev. in nautilus) 15:37:07 <hrw> yselkowitz: kind of mate? 15:37:36 <yselkowitz> more like the continuation of what mate forked from 15:38:04 <pwhalen> nice 15:38:27 <dgilmore> okay 15:38:43 <yselkowitz> https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/yselkowitz/gnome-flashback/ for f21 x86/_64 15:38:48 * dgilmore has nothing else 15:38:54 * pbrobinson doesn't either 15:39:01 <yselkowitz> unfortunately copr doesn't do armv7/aarch64 :-( 15:39:36 <pwhalen> very cool, thanks for sharing 15:39:42 <pwhalen> #endmeeting