13:07:17 <rbergeron> #startmeeting
13:07:17 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 17 13:07:17 2009 UTC.  The chair is rbergeron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
13:07:17 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
13:07:30 <mchua> Woo! Okay, you just started the meeting bot by typing #startmeeting
13:07:36 <mchua> that means you're the chair and have all sorts of magical powers
13:07:40 <rbergeron> oh, i guess i could read the stuff on the aforementioned link
13:07:54 <mchua> you can give other people chair powers also, by typing "#chair <IRC nick>"
13:07:59 <mchua> so go ahead and chair me
13:08:06 <rbergeron> #chair mchua
13:08:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: mchua rbergeron
13:08:09 <mchua> There we go.
13:08:15 <mchua> As a chair, you can change the topic.
13:08:16 <rbergeron> do you do that in the meetings?
13:08:23 <mchua> #topic where's the agenda?
13:08:40 <mchua> rbergeron: I usually don't, but sometimes it's useful if someone else is taking the floor, or if you have to leave early
13:08:40 <rbergeron> not change the topic but the chairs :)
13:08:46 <rbergeron> ah
13:08:47 <rbergeron> ok
13:08:49 <mchua> (because only chairs can end the meeting)
13:08:54 <rbergeron> i see
13:09:00 <mchua> we've had some interesting times where meeting logs will run for *days* because the chair forgot to close it...
13:09:06 <rbergeron> ah, so you're like the +o but for the meeting
13:09:09 * mchua grins
13:09:09 <mchua> yeah
13:09:11 <rbergeron> gotit
13:09:49 <mchua> every week I have a script that sends a meeting reminder to everyone, so you don't have to worry about that
13:09:57 <rbergeron> cool
13:09:57 <mchua> it mostly reminds people of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#Meeting_details
13:10:10 <mchua> (That link, if I wanted it to show up in the log, I would use #link)
13:10:14 <mchua> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#Meeting_details
13:10:23 <mchua> (and it will be pulled out in the meeting notes)
13:10:33 <mchua> the agenda is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#Agenda
13:10:41 <mchua> rbergeron: (if you want to #link that one)
13:11:00 <rbergeron> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#Agenda
13:11:03 <mchua> w00t
13:11:16 <mchua> I'll make this week's meeting agenda up this weekend
13:11:29 <mchua> and usually you just post that link at the beginning and then systematically change the #topic to go through the discussion points
13:11:32 <rbergeron> cool
13:11:34 <rbergeron> yup
13:11:40 <mchua> (like I said, you pretty much know all of this already)
13:11:56 <rbergeron> right
13:12:21 <mchua> I usually also go through a ticket status at the start so folks know where we are task-wise, so I'll send you that on Monday night so you don't have to pile through tickets
13:12:28 <mchua> (most of them are for FI anyway and should be gone this weekend)
13:12:30 <rbergeron> okay
13:12:59 <mchua> and if anyone wants to add agenda items or bring up new stuff, they just ask you, basically.
13:13:02 <mchua> or edit the wiki page beforehand.
13:13:07 <rbergeron> okay
13:13:20 <mchua> I think that mostly covers things... any questions? or on to meetbot commands?
13:13:39 <rbergeron> commands works
13:13:49 <mchua> rbergeron: ok, change the #topic to meetbot commands
13:14:02 <rbergeron> #topic meetbot commands
13:14:06 <mchua> whee!
13:14:29 <mchua> (I'm going to post these logs as the "how to run a meeting" docs, btw, so I'm going into way more detail than you actually need ;)
13:14:41 <mchua> the most important command is #action
13:14:55 <mchua> #action mchua <something I should be doing>
13:15:04 <mchua> I think anyone can make an #action item
13:15:09 <rbergeron> #action mchua to post these logs s the "how to mo run a meeting docs"
13:15:14 <mchua> exactly :)
13:15:27 <rbergeron> #action rbergeron needs to wake up and type properly :)
13:15:28 <mchua> if you put someone's irc nick in the #action item, meetbot will automagically compile a to-do list for that individual
13:15:42 <mchua> we'll see that when we look at the logs later.
13:15:42 <rbergeron> coolio
13:15:55 <mchua> other things that are sometimes useful... #link you've seen
13:16:09 <mchua> the logs are sorted by #topic, so you can see #link items under each topic which makes for quick reading
13:16:14 <mchua> the other two are #info and #agreed
13:16:21 <mchua> #info meetbot is cool
13:16:30 <mchua> #agreed automatic logging is the greatest thing ever
13:16:51 <mchua> and they'll put the points right into the high-level meeting notes, so if you want to be able to refer to something without wading through the logs, that's what you do
13:16:58 <mchua> any questions on meetbot?
13:17:00 <rbergeron> ahhh. neat
13:17:04 <rbergeron> nada
13:17:09 <mchua> #topic zodbot
13:17:10 <rbergeron> well, one, i don't know if you're getting to this:
13:17:14 <mchua> oh
13:17:16 <mchua> #topic meetbot
13:17:18 <mchua> go for it
13:17:29 <rbergeron> how do the logs get sent out?
13:17:46 <mchua> Ah, yep. I'll get to that when we #endmeeting and get logs.
13:17:53 <mchua> we'll do that in a moment, I just wanted to show you some useful zodbot stuff first
13:18:03 <mchua> #topic zodbot
13:18:19 <mchua> so, say you're in a meeting and people are talking about someone but you don't have their contact info or something
13:18:28 <mchua> like, "who the heck is mchua"
13:18:29 <mchua> .fas mchua
13:18:30 <zodbot> mchua: mchua 'Mel Chua' <mel@redhat.com>
13:18:35 <mchua> and there you go.
13:18:37 <mchua> or even
13:18:39 <mchua> .fasinfo mchua
13:18:39 <zodbot> mchua: User: mchua, Name: Mel Chua, email: mel@redhat.com, Creation: 2008-09-26, IRC Nick: mchua, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, Extension: 5115368, GPG key ID: , Status: active
13:18:42 <zodbot> mchua: Approved Groups: cla_done web ambassadors marketing cla_fedora sysadmin-test designteam gitfedora-zikula giteducation svnfedora-zikula-theme
13:18:42 <rbergeron> ahh
13:18:44 <zodbot> mchua: Unapproved Groups: None
13:18:53 <rbergeron> .fasinfo rbergeron
13:18:54 <zodbot> rbergeron: User "rbergeron" doesn't exist
13:19:01 <rbergeron> .fasinfo rbergero
13:19:02 <zodbot> rbergeron: User: rbergero, Name: Robyn Bergeron, email: robyn.bergeron@gmail.com, Creation: 2008-06-03, IRC Nick: rbergeron, Timezone: UTC, Locale: en, Extension: 5107194, GPG key ID: , Status: active
13:19:04 <zodbot> rbergeron: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fedora ols
13:19:07 <zodbot> rbergeron: Unapproved Groups: None
13:19:10 <mchua> So that makes it easy to figure out who people are if you don't know who they are in a meeting, or get info about someone you need to get in touch with.
13:19:15 <mchua> Random trick.
13:19:30 <mchua> I think that's it except for the post-meeting logs, really.
13:19:31 <rbergeron> innnneresting
13:19:51 <mchua> Mostly the job of the meeting chair is to be a cat-herder and go "people! we need to finish in N minutes!"
13:19:58 <mchua> and nudge convos back on topic, and such.
13:20:17 <rbergeron> okay
13:20:33 <mchua> rbergeron: anything else before we wrap up and do meeting logs?
13:20:49 <rbergeron> nope!
13:20:57 <mchua> (again, this is going into a howto, so I'm being *way* too detailed...)
13:21:02 <mchua> rbergeron: ok - then #endmeeting
13:21:21 <rbergeron> #endmeeting