16:54:00 <mchua> #startmeeting
16:54:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Feb 22 16:54:00 2010 UTC.  The chair is mchua. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:54:36 <mchua> quaid: I'm going to start blabbering about FI here and if I need to context-switch to GSoC I'll keep the log running here until we're done with both.
16:55:39 <mchua> For those watching: Karsten and I are switching projects for a week - Fedora Insight needs his sysadmin-fu more than my ability to get students and mentors excited about an education-related program, and vice versa for Summer Coding.
16:56:29 <mchua> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight
16:56:47 <mchua> has just about everything on it, so this braindump is mostly a pointing-out and a prioritizing for the next week.
16:57:36 <mchua> #info The Big Milestone we're aiming at is getting FWN migrated to FI.
16:58:03 <mchua> On staging, in the next... week and a half. So I'm not sure if we're going to hit that.
16:58:14 <mchua> #info the big blocker for production is the theme/design not being complete.
16:58:38 <mchua> Infrastructure is in freeze now though iirc (checking now) so we're still doing things in staging, but being ready to pull the lever immediately after freeze is good.
17:03:34 * mchua digging around looking for unfreeze date...
17:15:00 <mchua> skvidal says March 1st, so I'll assume that's right and keep looking for the canonical location so I don't have to ask #fedora-admin next time.
17:18:29 <mchua> All right. So here are the important locations for this FWN-goes-to-FI thing:
17:18:39 <mchua> #link http://publictest6.fedoraproject.org/zikula/
17:18:55 <mchua> This is our "anything goes, please mess around" zikula sandbox. You'll need sysadmin-test membership to do stuff with it.
17:19:12 <mchua> #link https://stg.fedoraproject.org/insight/
17:19:35 <mchua> this is our staging instance, and the one we're trying to get FWN up on. You should be able to log in with your normal FAS credentials (to the zikula interface).
17:19:57 <mchua> But only mmcgrath should be the one touching the server stuffs underneath that (whereas for pt6, anyone who has access also has root on that box.)
17:20:12 <mchua> Mike will follow whatever instructions are on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox
17:20:15 <mchua> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox
17:20:22 <mchua> Those instructions are done up to and including step 6.
17:20:36 <mchua> The short URL system proposed by affix has not yet been implemented.
17:21:00 <mchua> I'm trying to find his email proposal now.
17:21:44 <mchua> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2010-January/000357.html
17:22:05 <mchua> It's pretty simple, but hasn't been written up on the instructions nor implemented on staging.
17:22:50 <mchua> Also on the shorturls note is a convo started by ke4qqq - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2010-January/000345.html - but generally, the shortURLs thing should be really straightforward for someone with sysadmin-fu.
17:22:54 <mchua> (I think.)
17:23:30 <mchua> #info Infrastructure unfreeze is 3/3
17:23:54 <mchua> (this just in from mmcgrath, and the SOP is being updated to reflect that - it hadn't said the unfreeze date earlier so I was looking for something that wasn't there. Anyway!)
17:24:13 <mchua> Anyway.
17:24:31 <mchua> #info Goal: FWN migrated to FI on staging and ready to go live on 3/3 when Infrastructure unfreezes
17:24:42 <mchua> #info Blocker: Short URL system needs to be implemented
17:24:51 <mchua> #info Blocker theme needs to be fixed and packaged
17:25:03 <mchua> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Design
17:25:09 <mchua> that has links to the queue that has blockers
17:25:20 <mchua> #fedora-websites has been spectacularly helpful, but needs periodic nudging
17:26:36 <mchua> A few things need to happen for this:
17:26:49 <mchua> (1) all open tickets need to be closed (patches made and pushed to git repo)
17:26:52 <mchua> There's only one blocker left:
17:26:56 <mchua> #link https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/85
17:27:24 <mchua> it's assigned to hiemanshu, who just got back from traveling
17:27:57 <mchua> (2) the contents of the now-everything-is-fixed git repo need to be pushed to the package (already made, just needs to be updated with fixedness)
17:28:22 <mchua> and then (3) the package needs to be installed on staging (which means "add to sandbox instructions and then tell Mike to go for it")
17:28:55 <mchua> #info Blocker: FWN workflow needs to be implemented using pagemaster
17:29:54 <mchua> I believe FWN (Pascal) knows what they want, and also has the pagemaster skillz to execute (Simon taught Pascal and Dale pagemaster basics at FUDCon), and also has admin access to the zikula instance
17:30:43 <mchua> so this is, I think, a matter of sitting down with FWN and making sure that (1) the workflow does go up - ping the Zikula forums for help if they need pagemaster expertise - and (2) the FWN beat writers learn how to use it, and start using it.
17:31:00 <mchua> Pascal and I talked about trying to port back-issues of FWN to zikula for practice
17:31:19 <mchua> (as in, "every week after FWN goes out, try and see what it would have looked like to get that content through the zikula-based workflow"
17:31:30 <mchua> ) but that requires the pagemaster-based workflow to be set up first.
17:32:11 <mchua> Once those three things happen, I believe we'll be ready to tell Infrastructure to take us to production.
17:33:14 <mchua> And that should take us to the start of March with a live instance of FI, and then I can pick up on it and get the Marketing deliverables workflow going there so we can start pumping out more FI content than just FWN alone.
17:33:21 <mchua> quaid: That's my braindump. Questions?
17:37:18 <hiemanshu> mchua: once (1) is done, (2) and (3) will follow pretty soon
17:44:07 * mchua nods
17:45:13 <wonderer> hmm, just had the account on publictest3, but cannot login at publictest6.../zikula ...strange...
17:50:36 <mchua> wonderer: You're using the "fake FAS" login that works on pt3? (It sounds like you are.)
17:51:17 <wonderer> mchua: yes, like mentioned at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight Publictest.
17:53:47 <wonderer> mchua: Ah, I missed the CLS thingy (missed in the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight ) or I was to tired to see it...
17:53:53 <mchua> Ahh, that would do it!
17:55:09 <wonderer> mchua: when will be the time to adjust the User-roles for the zikula instance ... ? I assume that that comes later...
17:58:26 <mchua> wonderer: The first roles that will be created are for the FWN team - the roles they already have, just implemented in zikula. (Editors, and beat writers.)
17:59:36 <wonderer> mchua: because besides some Account settings I see no "write new content" link around ;-) ... So, I do not have the permission a) to edit whatever abd b) to change my role ;-)
18:00:18 * wonderer wonders, because he seem to be "Administrator" but cannot change his own role...
18:04:42 <mchua> wonderer: The roles on pt6 are set somewhat haphazardly, as it's a sandbox for people to play with.
18:06:53 <wonderer> mchua: Ok. Then I wait till productive...?! I thought we can play a bit on "how to implement content " and things like "how to implement the Podcasts" but that maybe can wait til "GoLive"...
19:06:24 <stickster> wonderer: It should be possible to create a new user and assign it to a role that you want to test
19:36:08 <rrix> yarh
19:41:28 <rrix> mchua_afk: I'mma not be at tomorrow's meeting. We have a late start of classes, which means I get out later. :(
20:26:23 <mchua> rrix: thanks for letting us know - logs will be on list and all the usual.
20:28:35 <rrix> yup, yup. Just figured I'd give ya a heads up so you aren't all "loil where is that dang slacker???" :)
20:28:46 <rrix> I have a slacking license this time ;)
20:29:03 <rrix> mchua: things still ultra-super-zomg-busy?
20:30:08 <mchua> quaid: I'm going to close the logs for sanity; reopen after your braindump when we both go into questions-mode
20:30:11 <mchua> #endmeeting