15:08:56 <mchua> #startmeeting
15:08:57 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr 22 15:08:56 2010 UTC.  The chair is mchua. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:08:57 <torbett> mchua: yeah, i can do that
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15:09:14 <brankf> mchua: can you send me that networking link again so I can read over it once more?
15:11:38 <mchua> brankf: you can find it linked off https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:F13_in-depth_features
15:18:45 <starzej> mchua:Where do we go from here in regards to the feature profile?
15:18:55 <mchua> arbabs: can you folks open up http://piratepad.net/one-page-release-notes in your browser?
15:19:01 <arbabs> sure
15:19:07 <mchua> arbabs: we should start figuring out where these screenshots fit into the feature profile
15:19:48 <arbabs> we did screen shots of the installation proccess
15:20:23 <mchua> arbabs: (er, or the one page release notes, rather, sorry)
15:22:10 <arbabs> sorry it will take a minute
15:22:18 <arbabs> we are trying to send the links
15:22:21 <mchua> arbabs: no worries.
15:22:43 <mchua> arbabs: when you've sent the links - basically, what we need to figure out is what images we need to include with the content we're writing for the one page release notes
15:22:53 <mchua> arbabs: there are some images we may be able to reuse from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes
15:23:06 <mchua> (that'll also give you an idea of the number/type of screenshots we are looking for)
15:23:14 <mchua> (and pictures that are not screenshots)
15:23:53 <mchua> but it may also give you an idea of *other* screenshots you could take, now that you know how to do them, specifically for the one page release notes
15:24:06 <mchua> and then you can upload those the same way, and we'll see how we can work them into the layout.
15:24:24 <arbabs> ok we are taking a look at them
15:25:49 <mchua> hey mizmo!
15:26:05 <mchua> I'm hoping to have the one page release notes content frozen by the weekend
15:26:08 <mizmo> hey
15:26:18 <arbabs> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/picture_archive
15:26:28 <arbabs> here is a lint to the screen shots
15:26:39 <mchua> mizmo: and to have folks start out by using your template from last time (yay for svg source!)
15:28:35 <mizmo> cool
15:29:11 <mchua> thanks arbabs! oh wow, beautiful.
15:29:24 <arbabs> matt did them!
15:29:30 <mchua> mizmo: I wonder if things like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/picture_archive would make good fodder for a usability analysis for jadudm's class next term
15:29:34 <mchua> the HCI one
15:29:46 <mchua> arbabs: did you guys send that link to the marketing list too?
15:30:39 <arbabs> matt sent it to henrik (wonderer)
15:32:11 <arbabs> we can send the like to the entire list now
15:33:34 <mchua> arbabs: that would be great.
15:39:52 <starzej> mchua: I was wondering where we would go from here with the python feature profile    brankf is not here today
15:40:32 <mchua> starzej: hm, nice timing. It's due to be published live soon. :)
15:40:36 <mchua> Let's see.
15:40:39 <mchua> starzej: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python3F13
15:40:57 <mchua> starzej: oops, wrong link
15:41:15 <mizmo> mchua: sorry i have to go afk, hunkering down on a very tight deadline
15:43:14 <arbabs> we will try to work on similar screen shots to the ones you showed us. Hopefully these could help with the one page release notes.
15:43:34 <starzej> mchua: what should I be working on when I do get the link. should I just read it over and make sure everything looks okay?
15:43:56 <mchua> arbabs: thanks!
15:43:58 <mchua> mizmo: good luck.
15:44:21 <mchua> starzej: how are you folks with screenshots? :)
15:45:13 <starzej> mchua: well I could probably figure them out with a little help.
15:45:19 <mizmo> mchua: thanks :)
15:49:08 <mchua> starzej: Ok - so, see how https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NetworkManager_in_Fedora_13 has some images?
15:49:18 <mchua> picture of the developer, logo, screenshot...
15:49:30 <mchua> ...not too many, really, but simple ones, illustrative ones, nice ones, that break up the text flow a bit, add some interest.
15:49:44 <mchua> starzej: think you can figure out something like that for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Python_in_Fedora_13#David_Malcolm ?
15:50:27 <starzej> I think I can...
15:50:31 <mchua> starzej: ask around in #fedora-devel for people who know Python, perhaps, and can take a screenshot of their development setup for you. abadger1999 and lmacken are good, there may be others.
15:50:45 <mchua> starzej: there may be a creative commons licensed image of Dave Malcom somewhere, etc.
15:50:52 <mchua> starzej: it may need to be cropped/color-balanced and whatnot.
15:51:04 <starzej> alright sounds good
15:59:53 * stickster points starzej to the easy to use 'gnome-screenshot -i' tool
16:00:04 <stickster> and then runs to lunch real quick while he has time
16:04:54 <starzej> mchua: I cannot find a creative commons licensed image of Dave Malcolm. But I will start working on screen shots now.
16:06:40 <mchua> starzej: You could email him and ask him for one. :)
16:07:16 <mchua> starzej: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EasierPythonDebugging#Owner has contact info
16:10:29 <DEiben> Mchua: can you put the new draft on the wiki page plz, we can't do it for some reason
16:11:28 <mchua> DEiben: Sure, are you folks done with your edits for the day?
16:11:55 <mizmo> mchua: okay im alive now lol
16:12:01 <mizmo> made the deadline
16:12:07 <mchua> mizmo: AWESOMESAUCE
16:12:20 * mizmo reads scrollback
16:12:24 <DEiben> mchua: yep\
16:12:45 <mizmo> mchua: ohhhhhh
16:12:51 <mizmo> mchua: are those screenshots for the release notes for f13?
16:13:03 <mizmo> mchua: we actually dont have the new anaconda banner design yet :( that's the f12 banner
16:15:45 <mchua> mizmo: Oh. Er... hm. That's... a problem, huh?
16:16:00 <mizmo> mchua: yeh :(
16:16:17 <mizmo> same for firstboot
16:16:24 <mizmo> and the wallpaper in gdm :(
16:16:43 <mizmo> the newest wallpaper has been packaged though
16:17:24 <mchua> mizmo: Hm. Um... so what would be usable for what, then - and when will the final screenshots be able to be taken, do you know?
16:17:39 <mizmo> mchua: ill probably be working on the banners tonight
16:17:46 <mizmo> for a lot of the anaconda ones the banners can be grafted on
16:17:51 <mizmo> for firstboot, that's a little more complicated
16:17:54 <mchua> (though I do think what we have is *way* better than no walkthrough, people will be able to extrapolate in the worst case, and it's also good to see how much effort it takes a new person to do the screenshots task)
16:17:59 <mizmo> oh absolutely
16:18:03 <mizmo> i think the anaconda shots is an easy fix
16:18:12 <mizmo> the firstboot ones might have to be retaken though
16:23:45 <mchua> #endmeeting