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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:27 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-25/fedora-qa.2013-02-25-16.01.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* roll call  (adamw, 16:01:35)

* Previous meeting follow-up  (adamw, 16:04:51)
  * LINK:
    https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-February/113909.html
    (adamw, 16:06:12)
  * "adamw to write a second draft (of the automatic blocker proposal)
    with andre's proposed changes and stronger explanation not to put
    'grey area' bugs in the automatic blocker list" - this was done:
    https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-February/113909.html
    (adamw, 16:11:36)
  * AGREED: second draft is ready to go  (adamw, 16:11:48)
  * ACTION: adamw to push 'automatic blocker' proposal to production
    (adamw, 16:11:57)
  * "adamw to draft up changes to the blocker bug meeting SOP for 3-hour
    hard limit, no-reviews-during-qa-meetings, and a dedicated channel
    for meetings, send to list for further discussion" - this was also
    done,
    https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-February/113910.html
    (adamw, 16:16:38)
  * j_dulaney, tflink, viking-ice, jreznik all vote +1 on blocker
    process changes  (adamw, 16:17:01)
  * ACTION: adamw to try and gather a bit more feedback on blocker
    process changes this week  (adamw, 16:17:15)
  * ACTION: viking-ice or adamw to file a trac ticket for the
    smoke-test-for-spins idea  (adamw, 16:19:54)

* Call for Test Days  (adamw, 16:20:16)
  * martix is working proposals into the schedule at present  (adamw,
    16:22:25)
  * tflink suggests an upgrade test day, but notes issues with timing
    (adamw, 16:23:13)

* Trac tickets CCed to list  (adamw, 16:31:14)
  * viking-ice says the qa trac was originally intended solely as a 'qa
    task management' thing, not for devel  (adamw, 16:33:54)
  * tflink is provisionally +1 to at least a separate mailing list for
    qa-devel  (adamw, 16:35:01)
  * to get a new trac instance we just file a ticket with websites
    (adamw, 16:37:13)
  * ACTION: tflink to take a look at the question of tracking qa tool
    discussion and bugs/tickets and make a broad proposal about what to
    do  (adamw, 16:48:50)
  * AGREED: everyone agrees in general that having the bugs in QA trac
    and the discussion spammed to test@ is a bad idea  (adamw, 16:49:30)

* Open floor  (adamw, 16:49:46)

Meeting ended at 17:00:03 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* adamw to push 'automatic blocker' proposal to production
* adamw to try and gather a bit more feedback on blocker process changes
  this week
* viking-ice or adamw to file a trac ticket for the smoke-test-for-spins
  idea
* tflink to take a look at the question of tracking qa tool discussion
  and bugs/tickets and make a broad proposal about what to do




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
  * adamw to push 'automatic blocker' proposal to production
  * adamw to try and gather a bit more feedback on blocker process
    changes this week
  * viking-ice or adamw to file a trac ticket for the
    smoke-test-for-spins idea
* tflink
  * tflink to take a look at the question of tracking qa tool discussion
    and bugs/tickets and make a broad proposal about what to do
* viking-ice
  * viking-ice or adamw to file a trac ticket for the
    smoke-test-for-spins idea
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (106)
* tflink (39)
* Viking-Ice (33)
* j_dulaney (22)
* Martix (17)
* nirik (10)
* zodbot (4)
* robatino (4)
* jreznik (3)
* misc (2)
* nb (1)
* abadger1999 (1)
* mkrizek (1)
* satellit_e (1)
* pschindl (1)
* viking-ice (0)




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