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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:02:45 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-01-27/fedora-qa.2014-01-27-16.02.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call  (adamw, 16:02:55)

* Previous meeting follow-up  (adamw, 16:05:55)
  * "adamw to post a summary of our position on EOL to the FESCo ticket"
    - I did that, see
    https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1198#comment:42  (adamw,
    16:06:44)
  * "adamw to post a mail to test@ highlighting things we can be working
    on during the 'quiet time'" - did that too, see
    https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2014-January/120167.html
    , thanks to viking for adding another suggestion  (adamw, 16:07:57)
  * Viking-Ice and roshi have started working on the QA community role
    which merges bugtriaging and testing process QA community member
    (adamw, 16:09:41)

* SELinux update discussion  (adamw, 16:13:30)
  * brunowolff notes 'make selinux updates spend longer in testing' is a
    commonly suggested short term approach  (adamw, 16:22:34)
  * cmurf suggests per-package defaults for update release criteria
    (adamw, 16:22:44)
  * kparal suggests re-evaluating autopush and a minimum updates-testing
    time for certain updates  (adamw, 16:23:13)
  * pingou suggests disallowing push to stable until update has made it
    to -testing  (adamw, 16:25:18)
  * AGREED: while there are various little tweaks that could be
    considered to the update policy and process as a 'response' to this,
    we don't think any of them obviously solves the problem without
    causing other problems, and we trust the selinux maintainers to
    configure their updates more conservatively in future  (adamw,
    16:40:31)

* Unmaintained package discussion  (adamw, 16:40:40)
  * ACTION: viking-ice to look at a possible process for flagging
    bitrotten packages as part of the larger triage process proposal
    (adamw, 16:59:59)

* open floor  (adamw, 17:01:08)

Meeting ended at 17:02:48 UTC.




Action Items
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* viking-ice to look at a possible process for flagging bitrotten
  packages as part of the larger triage process proposal




Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
  * viking-ice to look at a possible process for flagging bitrotten
    packages as part of the larger triage process proposal




People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (79)
* Viking-Ice (50)
* cmurf (48)
* nirik (25)
* kparal (16)
* brunowolff (14)
* pingou (7)
* misc (5)
* roshi (5)
* zodbot (4)
* garretraziel (2)
* tflink (2)
* pschindl (2)
* mkrizek (1)
* haraldh (1)
* pwhalen (1)




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