15:01:42 <roshi> #startmeeting Fedora QA Meeting
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15:02:00 <roshi> #topic Roll Call
15:02:02 * handsome_pirate cranks up some Satch
15:02:03 * pschindl is here
15:02:08 <kparal> me hello
15:02:15 <kparal> heh
15:02:19 <vrutkovs> heya
15:02:41 <roshi> we've got more people than I thought we would :)
15:03:08 <roshi> #meetingname fedora-qa
15:03:08 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qa'
15:03:48 <roshi> #topic Previous Meeting follow-up
15:03:56 * danofsatx-work is present and accounted for
15:04:00 <danofsatx-work> mostly....
15:04:00 <roshi> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora-qa/fedora-qa.2014-07-07-15.01.html
15:04:10 <roshi> for reference to the last meeting
15:04:58 <roshi> iirc, adam has worked on the matrices as well as documenting fedora.next processes
15:04:58 <danofsatx-work> did you do the blocker last week?
15:05:09 <roshi> and I've been doing the blocker meetings since then
15:05:14 <roshi> yep - we had one
15:05:18 <roshi> will have another this week
15:05:41 <danofsatx-work> ah, ok that was the one I missed.
15:05:53 <roshi> we've had 4 to date I think
15:06:46 <roshi> anybody have anything else for this?
15:07:36 <danofsatx-work> when will the drafts become working docs?
15:07:45 <roshi> for which?
15:07:56 <danofsatx-work> IOW, should we start working from them now? All three products
15:08:20 <danofsatx-work> and I know there are no test cases for server yet, that's something I was hoping to help adamw with
15:08:32 <roshi> they should probably be solidified and "published" soon
15:08:46 <roshi> but things have been delayed with the delay of a TC
15:09:08 <roshi> the stuff I did for cloud all seems to be fine (since no one has complained about them)
15:09:22 <roshi> there are some final testcase edits I need to do, but that's about it
15:10:07 <roshi> I know adam is travelling here soon - but you can ping him
15:10:08 * satellit_e joining late
15:10:10 <roshi> or email him
15:10:27 * danofsatx-work is aware
15:10:33 <roshi> if you see something that hasn't been done yet (or that you can't find), just do it
15:10:34 <danofsatx-work> I'm kinda busy, too - finals week for me
15:11:07 <roshi> from what I know of adamw he'd tell you to feel free to make edits and make sutff
15:11:19 <danofsatx-work> heh, yeah....
15:11:34 <roshi> this fits in well with moving to the next topic
15:11:39 <roshi> #Fedora 21 Status
15:12:11 <roshi> #info Current draft documentation needs to be pushed out of draft status
15:12:35 <roshi> want an action to help adamw out danofsatx-work ?
15:12:47 <handsome_pirate> roshi:  You 'll want to #topic this if it's a new topic :)
15:12:48 <danofsatx-work> nah....it's only if I find time
15:12:58 <roshi> #topic Fedora 21 Status
15:13:03 <roshi> there we go
15:13:11 <handsome_pirate> +1
15:13:21 * roshi drinks more coffee
15:13:51 <satellit_e> FYI testing with VirtualBox: boot.iso f21 0803 works  live composes seem to fail today (bad koji update)
15:14:09 <roshi> I've been out for the past few days - so does anyone have any news on F21 status
15:14:12 <roshi> ?
15:14:49 <danofsatx-work> ok, I can't use Koji. What should we be searching for to find the latest builds?
15:14:51 <roshi> thanks for keeping on the testing satellit_e :)
15:14:53 <satellit_e> latest anaconda is 21-48.2-1
15:15:09 <roshi> for rawhide I used the rel-eng dash for builds
15:16:13 <danofsatx-work> yeah, but that doesn't give me the Server product - cloud, workstation, appliances, and spins (of which KDE is one)/
15:16:16 <satellit_e> problem I mentioned to threebeas this morning   f21-candidate builds are just before rawhide so do not see f21 in dash
15:16:23 <kparal> I downloaded nightly from 0727 (last successful compose or something) and it booted OK. didn't have time to try to install
15:16:28 <roshi> here's a link for you danofsatx-work: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?method=createLiveCD&state=all&view=flat&order=-id
15:16:46 <roshi> createLiveCD is all the lives you're looking for
15:16:53 <satellit_e> server is on boot.iso
15:16:54 <roshi> createImage is cloud stuff
15:17:04 <roshi> aiui
15:17:43 <roshi> and boot.iso shows up on the dl page
15:17:50 * roshi looks for the link
15:18:05 <satellit_e> http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/21/x86_64/os/images/boot.iso
15:18:15 <roshi> there it is :)
15:18:20 <danofsatx-work> yeah, I know where that is, but I don't know how to use it.
15:18:32 * danofsatx-work isn't that bright
15:18:35 <roshi> what do you mean?
15:18:57 <roshi> dd it to a USB stick, burn to a dvd or just use it to boot on a VM
15:19:00 <satellit_e> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_21#Boot.iso  shows it in screenshot
15:19:06 <danofsatx-work> ok
15:21:21 <roshi> any news on the status of a TC?
15:21:36 <roshi> nirik or dgilmore around?
15:21:47 <danofsatx-work> nirik is in brno....
15:22:07 <roshi> it's a long shot with flock starting soon :)
15:22:12 <danofsatx-work> it appears dgilmore is also
15:22:13 <roshi> couldn't hurt to try though
15:22:20 <roshi> yep
15:22:24 <dgilmore> roshi: just leaving, still sorting out teh issues
15:22:36 <roshi> thanks dgilmore :)
15:22:48 <roshi> travel safe :)
15:23:22 <danofsatx-work> oh, dammit....they actually have workin ZNC instances. I keep forgetting that.
15:23:26 * danofsatx-work can't make his work
15:25:03 <roshi> I don't know that we have the people around with the info to clarify what's stopping the TC - but it's good enough for me that it's being worked on
15:25:27 <roshi> #info TC issues are being actively worked on by releng
15:25:58 <kparal> and bcl, I think adamw wrote that into test list or somewhere
15:26:52 <roshi> yeah - adam said "It looks like dgilmore and bcl made some progress on identifying the Workstation compose bug they've been fighting, but it's not entirely fixed yet. I'm not sure what else stands in the way of finally getting a TC, it would be good to clarify that"
15:27:23 * roshi doesn't have any insight into what the issue is
15:28:52 <roshi> kparal: you have any other info on this?
15:29:03 <kparal> sorry, no
15:29:25 <roshi> well, at least you're not the only one :)
15:29:50 <roshi> I think we can move on now
15:29:59 <roshi> #topic Nightly Install Testing
15:30:04 * satellit_e the last live i tried to install did not find the filesystem went to finish almost immediatly
15:30:17 <roshi> satellit_e has been holding the fort down for this one
15:30:41 <satellit_e> wish we had a testing page
15:30:53 <roshi> that's something we have to action someone for
15:31:17 <roshi> what do you want out of a testing page satellit_e ?
15:31:41 <satellit_e> someplace to report fail pass etc and version
15:32:07 <roshi> just a rawhide installation matrix?
15:32:23 <roshi> that was my thought, at least
15:32:33 <satellit_e> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Rawhide_2014_07_Install#Live_image  like this
15:33:14 <roshi> just more room and another for august then?
15:33:18 * roshi can set that up
15:33:24 <satellit_e> k
15:33:48 <roshi> #action roshi to create nightly installation test matrix
15:34:25 <roshi> anyone else have something for nightly testing?
15:34:54 * roshi will do some nightly testing today once he gets through emails
15:35:17 <kparal> thanks, nothing here
15:35:24 <roshi> if there's nothing else for this we'll move on to...
15:35:30 <roshi> #topic Open Floor!
15:35:31 <kparal> we are likely to get consumed by flock this week
15:35:36 <satellit_e> koji is almost all failtoday have to go back to page 2-4
15:35:55 <satellit_e> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?start=0&state=all&view=flat&method=createLiveCD&order=-id
15:36:31 <roshi> yeah - saw that
15:37:44 * roshi doesn't have anything for open floor
15:38:06 <roshi> anybody have anything?
15:38:11 * roshi gets out the fuse
15:40:27 <danofsatx-work> sorry, users walked into my office.
15:40:36 <danofsatx-work> am I about to not be blown up by the fuse?
15:40:41 * roshi sets the black market quantum fuse
15:40:58 <roshi> you got something for Open Floor?
15:41:28 <kparal> nothing here
15:42:35 * jsmith has nothing
15:43:45 <roshi> well, then I suppose we'll end the meeting :)
15:43:54 <roshi> thanks for coming everyone!
15:44:00 <roshi> #endmeeting