#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting

Meeting summary

1. Roll call (adamw, 16:01:47)
   
2. Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 16:10:43)
   1. there are no action items from last time (adamw, 16:11:23)
   2. work on blockerbugs improvements is moving along nicely (adamw, 16:14:11)
   
   
3. Fedora 34 status and Changes (adamw, 16:14:27)
   1. we had about a week of no composes for various reasons (adamw, 16:14:44)
   2. we finally got a compose again a couple of days ago, I have not finished digging into the bugs that showed up in it yet, but it's in the "broadly OK but some broken stuff" category (adamw, 16:15:07)
   3. some Change proposals are ruffling feathers on devel@, the latest being a proposal to replace Pulseaudio and JACK by default with a new system called Pipewire which is intended to supersede both (adamw, 16:16:10)
   4. the current test plan for the pipewire Change is thin: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DefaultPipeWire#How_To_Test (adamw, 16:22:03)
   5. it would be good if we could beef that test plan up a bit, ideally using proper test cases so we can organize test days (adamw, 16:23:07)
   6. ACTION: lruzicka to look into working up a better test plan for the pipewire change (adamw, 16:27:26)
   
   
4. IRC vs. Matrix (adamw, 16:29:53)
   1. Matrix is an open source, open standard, federated chat system in the modern style - it presents more like something like Slack or Discord than IRC: https://matrix.org/ (adamw, 16:30:58)
   2. various Fedora groups are looking into moving to using it over IRC, including - recently - the Council (adamw, 16:31:26)
   3. we could consider doing the same in QA (adamw, 16:31:40)
   4. there is a webapp client called Element which many folks use - https://app.element.io/ , there is a "desktop" version of Element which is mostly just a thin wrapper around a browser library, and there are some real "desktop" clients. Most are available as Flatpaks, one called quaternion is in the repos (adamw, 16:34:10)
   5. you can already access #fedora-qa on IRC through Matrix; there is a native Matrix room which is bridged to the IRC channel, the alias for it is #fedora-qa:matrix.org (adamw, 16:39:53)
   6. ACTION: adamw to look into details of matrix hosting, like can rooms be moved across homeservers (adamw, 16:45:14)
   7. ACTION: adamw to look into more details around Matrix and make a more specific proposal if it still seems like a good idea in the new year (adamw, 16:53:05)
   8. it seems sumantro isn't around, so we'll skip the next topic (adamw, 16:54:24)
   
   
5. Open floor (adamw, 16:54:26)
   
6. Test Day / community event status (adamw, 16:55:29)
   1. we don't have much going on with events right now, sumantro just came back from time off (adamw, 16:58:39)
   2. there may be an onboarding call mid-december (adamw, 16:59:23)
   
   
7. Open floor (adamw, 16:59:28)

Action items

1. lruzicka to look into working up a better test plan for the pipewire change
2. adamw to look into details of matrix hosting, like can rooms be moved across homeservers
3. adamw to look into more details around Matrix and make a more specific proposal if it still seems like a good idea in the new year

Action items, by person

1. adamw
   1. adamw to look into details of matrix hosting, like can rooms be moved across homeservers
   2. adamw to look into more details around Matrix and make a more specific proposal if it still seems like a good idea in the new year
2. lruzicka
   1. lruzicka to look into working up a better test plan for the pipewire change

People present (lines said)

1. adamw (99)
2. kparal (24)
3. zodbot (12)
4. lruzicka (10)
5. sumantro (6)
6. Southern_Gentlem (4)
7. copperi (4)
8. cmurf (3)
9. pwhalen (1)
10. bcotton (1)