================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting ================================== Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:37 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2020-11-30/fedora-qa.2020-11-30-16.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (adamw, 16:01:47) * Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 16:10:43) * there are no action items from last time (adamw, 16:11:23) * work on blockerbugs improvements is moving along nicely (adamw, 16:14:11) * Fedora 34 status and Changes (adamw, 16:14:27) * we had about a week of no composes for various reasons (adamw, 16:14:44) * we finally got a compose again a couple of days ago, I have not finished digging into the bugs that showed up in it yet, but it's in the "broadly OK but some broken stuff" category (adamw, 16:15:07) * some Change proposals are ruffling feathers on devel@, the latest being a proposal to replace Pulseaudio and JACK by default with a new system called Pipewire which is intended to supersede both (adamw, 16:16:10) * the current test plan for the pipewire Change is thin: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DefaultPipeWire#How_To_Test (adamw, 16:22:03) * it would be good if we could beef that test plan up a bit, ideally using proper test cases so we can organize test days (adamw, 16:23:07) * ACTION: lruzicka to look into working up a better test plan for the pipewire change (adamw, 16:27:26) * IRC vs. Matrix (adamw, 16:29:53) * Matrix is an open source, open standard, federated chat system in the modern style - it presents more like something like Slack or Discord than IRC: https://matrix.org/ (adamw, 16:30:58) * various Fedora groups are looking into moving to using it over IRC, including - recently - the Council (adamw, 16:31:26) * we could consider doing the same in QA (adamw, 16:31:40) * there is a webapp client called Element which many folks use - https://app.element.io/ , there is a "desktop" version of Element which is mostly just a thin wrapper around a browser library, and there are some real "desktop" clients. Most are available as Flatpaks, one called quaternion is in the repos (adamw, 16:34:10) * you can already access #fedora-qa on IRC through Matrix; there is a native Matrix room which is bridged to the IRC channel, the alias for it is #fedora-qa:matrix.org (adamw, 16:39:53) * ACTION: adamw to look into details of matrix hosting, like can rooms be moved across homeservers (adamw, 16:45:14) * ACTION: adamw to look into more details around Matrix and make a more specific proposal if it still seems like a good idea in the new year (adamw, 16:53:05) * it seems sumantro isn't around, so we'll skip the next topic (adamw, 16:54:24) * Open floor (adamw, 16:54:26) * Test Day / community event status (adamw, 16:55:29) * we don't have much going on with events right now, sumantro just came back from time off (adamw, 16:58:39) * there may be an onboarding call mid-december (adamw, 16:59:23) * Open floor (adamw, 16:59:28) Meeting ended at 17:02:46 UTC. Action Items ------------ * lruzicka to look into working up a better test plan for the pipewire change * adamw to look into details of matrix hosting, like can rooms be moved across homeservers * adamw to look into more details around Matrix and make a more specific proposal if it still seems like a good idea in the new year Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to look into details of matrix hosting, like can rooms be moved across homeservers * adamw to look into more details around Matrix and make a more specific proposal if it still seems like a good idea in the new year * lruzicka * lruzicka to look into working up a better test plan for the pipewire change * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (99) * kparal (24) * zodbot (12) * lruzicka (10) * sumantro (6) * Southern_Gentlem (4) * copperi (4) * cmurf (3) * pwhalen (1) * bcotton (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot