16:00:35 <adamw> #startmeeting Fedora QA Meeting
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16:00:46 <adamw> #topic Roll call
16:00:48 <tablepc> So how's G40 comming? Hav seen only a few pieces of it so far.
16:00:54 <adamw> top of the mornin' to you, tablepc!
16:00:58 <adamw> that's a good question
16:01:05 <adamw> i was sorta expecting more of it to have landed by now too
16:01:11 <adamw> it might be kparal's fault? :D
16:01:28 * kparal looks up
16:01:31 * coremodule is here, good morning
16:01:39 <tablepc> I thought he was working on new tests
16:02:00 <Southern_Gentlem> howdy
16:02:04 <kparal> I deny everything
16:02:04 <ComputerKid> howdy
16:02:17 <Southern_Gentlem> .hello2 jbwillia
16:02:17 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: Sorry, but you don't exist
16:02:22 <Southern_Gentlem> .hello jbwillia
16:02:23 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof@gmail.com>
16:02:26 <tablepc> .hello2
16:02:27 <zodbot> tablepc: tablepc 'Pat Kelly' <pmkellly@frontier.com>
16:02:28 <adamw> kparal (and mattdm) sent a bunch of constructive feedback
16:04:13 <frantisekz> .hello2
16:04:15 <zodbot> frantisekz: frantisekz 'František Zatloukal' <fzatlouk@redhat.com>
16:04:19 <adamw> so desktop team might be working on that before landing more of the changes in Rawhide. not sure, though.
16:06:10 <geraldosimiao> .hello2
16:06:11 <zodbot> geraldosimiao: geraldosimiao 'None' <geraldo.simiao.kutz@gmail.com>
16:06:45 <bcotton> .hello2
16:06:45 <adamw> geraldosimiao: it only works if your nick is registered, i think
16:06:47 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
16:07:24 <kparal> adamw: the upstream MR seems to have no new commits in the last week
16:07:32 <geraldosimiao> strange, because my nick is registered. I only not have a cloack yet
16:08:39 <adamw> maybe they're just all out drinking, then
16:09:00 <tablepc> or theey think it's perfect now.
16:11:08 <adamw> hehe
16:11:11 <adamw> anyway, to business!
16:11:15 <adamw> #topic Previous meeting follow-up
16:12:18 <copperi> .hello2
16:12:19 <zodbot> copperi: copperi 'Jan Kuparinen' <copper_fin@hotmail.com>
16:13:11 <adamw> #info "lruzicka to post his proposals for audio testing to test@" - he did so, and there's been a very productive discussion on it, which we can cover in a later topic
16:13:21 <adamw> any other follow-up that won't come up in a later topic?
16:13:42 <lruzicka2> .hello2
16:13:43 <zodbot> lruzicka2: Sorry, but you don't exist
16:13:52 <lruzicka2> .hello lruzicka
16:13:56 <zodbot> lruzicka2: lruzicka 'Lukáš Růžička' <lruzicka@redhat.com>
16:15:51 <adamw> jeez, all these ghosts
16:15:55 <adamw> ok, moving on
16:17:03 <adamw> #topic Fedora 34 status and Changes
16:19:58 <adamw> so, we had some trouble with composes last week but it seems to be resolved
16:20:50 <adamw> #info in current composes, anaconda is failing to run in KDE, that's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1921947
16:21:26 <adamw> # in today's compose, it seems to be not running in GNOME either, but I haven't looked into that in any detail yet
16:21:27 <adamw> grr
16:21:43 <adamw> #info in today's compose, it seems to be not running in GNOME either, but I haven't looked into that in any detail yet
16:22:02 <geraldosimiao> I noticed that KDE spin was coming with calligra and Ksysguard too, instead of Libreoffice and new system monitor. Already warned the kde SIG and they are working on it.
16:22:51 <adamw> #info also in today's compose, gnome-initial-setup is crashing in Silverblue installs
16:23:07 <adamw> geraldosimiao: awesome, thanks. did you file a bug or was it just informal?
16:23:18 <geraldosimiao> I opened a ticket in pagure
16:23:32 <adamw> #info and all non-English language installs in today's Rawhide seem to have got stuck during initramfs generation, again will look into that after the meeting
16:23:47 <adamw> so status is, we're getting composes but stuff seems bumpy :)
16:23:59 <adamw> anyone have other notes on f34 at present?
16:24:24 <geraldosimiao> here: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issue/40
16:25:08 <bcotton> so branch day is next tuesday (9 Feb). will we resume blocker review meetings the following monday (15 Feb)?
16:25:43 <lruzicka2> bcotton, I guess we should
16:25:59 <coremodule> wonder if anyone tried a workstation live boot/install on lenovo hardware at all last week? with the 0124 or 0128 images? couldn't get it to boot on my p53, but booted fine on an old dell I have, so didn't file a bug just yet.
16:26:20 <tablepc> Run on my lenovo machine
16:26:57 <tablepc> I'm still working with 0124
16:27:18 <tablepc> M83 i5
16:27:25 <coremodule> okay, good to know. ill keep trying
16:27:33 <geraldosimiao> no lenovo here, just an old acer aspirre and an ancient HP-G42
16:28:17 <tablepc> The install ran without issues
16:29:18 <tablepc> Shall I try the 0128?
16:30:55 <coremodule> tablepc, if you like, id appreciate it. I couldn't either to get past gnome shell starting up, so maybe you can give it a try
16:31:23 <adamw> for blocker meetings, i've not been running them because there haven't been many to vote on at any given time. there's only two outstanding proposed beta blockers rn.
16:31:34 <lruzicka2> coremodule, I could try, too, however i only have a T460 and a T580. Nothing that fancy as P53
16:31:44 <tablepc> Okay I'll try it later and leave the results on the QA list
16:31:48 <adamw> there are 5 proposed finals, so either we should vote on those in the voting app or we can do a meeting next week :)
16:32:48 <bcotton> yeah, i figure after the branch date is a good time to start doing it regularly. but i am certainly not going to demand it :-)
16:34:33 <adamw> #info blocker review meetings will resume when there are enough outstanding proposed blockers, probably next week, but if we keep voting on them in the app there's no need
16:36:11 <adamw> i'm just checking if there's anything much on Changes
16:36:13 <adamw> anyone have anything there?
16:36:37 <adamw> we had a lot of discussion on the zram change this week but it seems to have mostly been a storm in a teacup
16:36:48 <tablepc> I'd like to see much more of G40 before we get to Beta
16:37:09 <adamw> yeah, changes are supposed to be 'complete' (as in fully testable) by tomorrow
16:37:21 <adamw> so if you're aware of a Change that isn't, it's worth knowing about
16:37:50 <tablepc> But G40 isn't on one of our changes
16:38:22 <adamw> i think it got forcibly converted into a self-contained Change
16:38:42 <adamw> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Gnome40
16:38:56 <tablepc> So I should see it in the next Rawhide
16:41:13 <adamw> i don't know if we know when the changes are actually supposed to land in rawhide
16:41:31 <adamw> but they ought to land soon, so if they don't we'll have to raise the issue
16:42:58 <geraldosimiao> I see thats already F34 repositories, but iso is still with rawhide repos. Shoul I stay with rawhide until branch date? or can I change to F34 now?
16:43:51 <adamw> where are you seeing f34 repos?
16:43:58 <adamw> i only see rawhide at https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/
16:45:44 <adamw> #topic Criteria proposals, etc.
16:45:53 <adamw> so it seems like we're mostly agreed on the audio criteria, right?
16:46:09 <lruzicka2> it seems so
16:46:35 <tablepc> Seems reasonable to me
16:47:19 <geraldosimiao> When I do dnf repolist --all
16:48:16 <adamw> geraldosimiao: ah, that's going to depend on what repo packages you have installed locally and which repos are enabled
16:48:28 <adamw> mirrormanager does some futzing so when you ask it for '34' it gives you rawhide
16:48:55 <geraldosimiao> ok, thanks :)
16:49:28 <adamw> so you can have a "fedora 34" repo that's working, but it's basically pointing you to rawhide in the end
16:50:12 <geraldosimiao> Yes, I understand. So not a real problem. :D
16:50:31 <adamw> #info we've had some discussion on the audio criteria at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/6X655I5WAR3SDV4YXRYQLAS6EJIOKFW2/ , we seem to have reached a consensus to leave the existing criterion unmodified and add a requirement for audio recording to work at Final, so if you disagree, please speak up!
16:50:47 <lruzicka2> I hold my peace
16:51:12 <adamw> lruzicka: it sounds like you have some plans for test cases too?
16:51:33 <geraldosimiao> I agree with the criteria
16:52:00 <lruzicka2> I have currently a draft for the test case on Basic Recording
16:52:07 <adamw> great
16:52:13 <lruzicka2> the link is: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lruzicka/QA:Testcase_recording_basic
16:52:48 <lruzicka2> I am also working on more test cases for audio test day, I am in the middle of the process.
16:52:56 <lruzicka2> approximately
16:53:29 <adamw> great
16:53:48 <adamw> #info lruzicka is working on additional audio test cases for release validation and test days, drafts will go to the list soon
16:54:33 <adamw> #info lnie, pwhalen, pbrobinson and myself talked about some tweaks to the installation matrix for aarch64 last week, nothing major, we will probably get that done this week and mail the list to explain
16:54:33 <lruzicka2> yes
16:55:03 <adamw> just adding space to report "basic boot and install" for aarch64, basically, since that's not really there ATM.
16:55:26 <adamw> do we have anything else criteria-y?
16:58:40 <adamw> i guess not!
16:59:04 <adamw> sumantro, are you here? any community event news?
17:01:51 <Southern_Gentlem> adamw, was there anything we needed to look at changeing in f33 for  f34 as far as criteria?
17:02:19 <adamw> i gues not!
17:02:20 <adamw> #topic Open floor
17:02:21 <adamw> very briefly, anything important for open floor
17:02:21 <adamw> ?
17:02:50 <tablepc> Have a Great Day Everyone!
17:03:49 <geraldosimiao> just excited for F34 :D
17:04:01 <adamw> yup :)
17:04:03 <adamw> thanks for coming, folks!
17:04:07 <geraldosimiao> good day friends, bye
17:04:19 <adamw> Southern_Gentlem: i don't think there's anything we haven't already proposed
17:04:25 <adamw> unless you know of something?
17:08:01 <lruzicka2> bye, have a great time
17:08:30 <adamw> #endmeeting