15:00:44 <adamw> #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
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15:00:44 <adamw> #meetingname fedora-qa
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15:00:48 <adamw> #topic Roll Call
15:01:56 <adamw> ahoyhoy, who's around for meeting fun?
15:02:18 <frantisekz> .hello2
15:02:22 <zodbot> frantisekz: frantisekz 'František Zatloukal' <fzatlouk@redhat.com>
15:02:37 <pboy> .hi
15:02:38 <zodbot> pboy: pboy 'Peter Boy' <pboy@uni-bremen.de>
15:03:08 <adamw> wow, zodbot got casual
15:03:23 <adamw> .sup
15:03:28 <adamw> ...but not that casual
15:04:27 * sumantro is here
15:05:01 <adamw> hi sumantro
15:05:17 <sumantro> Hey adamw! been loooooonggg
15:06:51 <adamw> it has!
15:07:14 <adamw> let me see, did i need to yell at you about anything 🤔
15:07:42 <Southern_Gentlem> .hello jbwillia
15:07:43 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof@gmail.com>
15:07:43 <adamw> OK, let's get going, then
15:07:49 <adamw> #topic Previous meeting follow-up
15:07:55 <sumantro> adamw, only if you can remember :D
15:08:56 <adamw> #info "adamw to consider updating network criteria proposal to cover types of network connection (wired, wireless, security types...)" - I did that, see https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/FG2OLCD2LE7G6UJVV5PQMRLF3FF3GAGY/
15:09:42 <cmurf> .hello2
15:09:43 <zodbot> cmurf: cmurf 'Chris Murphy' <chris@cmurf.com>
15:11:21 <adamw> #info "lruzicka to add question about exact required automated test coverage for desktop apps to one of the ongoing discussions with desktop team (mailing list or ticket)" - I don't *think* this got done, i'll throw it on the list for next week
15:11:33 <adamw> #action lruzicka to add question about exact required automated test coverage for desktop apps to one of the ongoing discussions with desktop team (mailing list or ticket)
15:12:57 <adamw> #topic Fedora 37 check-in
15:13:21 <adamw> so, rawhide composes have been failing due to fallout from the syslinux->grub2 attempted change
15:13:29 <adamw> nirik and I will keep working on that today I expect
15:14:01 <Nathan[m]123456> Hello
15:14:03 <adamw> #info rawhide composes are failing due to problems related to the attempt to move images from syslinux to grub2, adamw and nirik are working on it
15:15:50 <Nathan[m]123456> In the latest rawhide build I noticed problems with Gnome software and Gnome setting
15:16:12 <adamw> other changes are getting quite a lot of discussion on test@, including https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GPTforBIOSbyDefault and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/StrongCryptoSettings3Forewarning1
15:16:26 <adamw> Nathan: hi, what problems did you see?
15:17:24 <Nathan[m]123456> Crash when opening the Gnome Setting and Gnome Software application
15:17:45 <adamw> have you filed bug reports?
15:18:24 <Nathan[m]123456> Here are the links to Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2093673
15:18:48 <Nathan[m]123456> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2093961
15:19:43 <adamw> thanks
15:21:10 <adamw> hmm, both illegal instruction, which is slightly odd. do you know what CPU you have?
15:23:16 <cmurf> related to the GPT on BIOS feature, is this bug I ran into https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2088113
15:23:39 <adamw> on the changes, the crypto policy one is more of a headsup (and an addition of non-standard policies you can use to preview the planned f38 settings) so that's not going to affect anything. gpt on BIOS is something we'll want to have broad testing of, though. ideally a test day
15:24:04 <Nathan[m]123456> adamw: My CPU is ninth generation Intel core I7
15:25:01 <adamw> huh! that was probably not the answer i was expecting. okay. i'll try and get someone to take a look at these after the meeting...
15:28:11 <adamw> anyone have more notes on f37 stuff?
15:29:09 <Nathan[m]123456> At the moment, no.
15:29:51 <adamw> #topic Test Day / community event status
15:29:57 <adamw> sumantro, since you're here, take it away!
15:30:23 <sumantro> So, Kernel 5.18 Test Week is underway
15:30:49 <sumantro> jforbes, just built a new build of 5.18
15:31:51 <sumantro> Fedora Virt Manager is probably gonna be something where I wanna test Rawhide https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/701
15:31:59 <sumantro> adamw and et all , please weigh in
15:32:26 <adamw> that's https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-06-05_Kernel_5.18_Test_Week , result submission at https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/136 , and join #test-day:fedoraproject.org channel to chat!
15:33:04 <adamw> sure, virt-manager test day sounds good
15:33:12 <sumantro> Fedora QA Onboarding Calls whenisgood is out for votes. Pick a good time and vote in. We will have a call sometime next to next week.
15:33:13 <adamw> i believe there's a ticket for an onboarding event too?
15:33:59 <sumantro> yep, the link to vote is https://whenisgood.net/mmwpzkh
15:34:11 <sumantro> the agenda is https://hackmd.io/3V3xwrEcRtyf381wJvZr1g
15:35:06 <adamw> #info kernel 5.18 test week is underway at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-06-05_Kernel_5.18_Test_Week and in #fedora-test-day , please do join in
15:35:25 <adamw> #info virt-manager test day is in planning for later this month at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/701
15:35:40 <adamw> #info onboarding call is also being planned, vote for time/date at https://whenisgood.net/mmwpzkh
15:35:41 <sumantro> adamw, I am waiting on design to get a lot of design approved for badges.
15:35:59 <adamw> what kinda badges?
15:36:03 <sumantro> QA will soon have a series of Test Day badges.
15:36:07 <sumantro> Kernel Test Week
15:36:11 <sumantro> Gnome Test Week
15:36:17 <sumantro> FCOS
15:37:42 <sumantro> There will be more for bugs filed per release
15:37:49 <sumantro> and more like that
15:37:55 <adamw> ah, cool
15:38:03 <sumantro> maybe for blocker - courtsey of kparal :D
15:40:16 <adamw> alright, that's all? any questions or anything, anyone?
15:40:44 <tflink[m]> nothing from me, anyways
15:41:07 <adamw> #topic Open floor
15:41:11 <adamw> alrighty, any other business folks?
15:41:45 <tflink[m]> oh, I thought you were asking about open floor. whoops.
15:41:46 <adamw> .fire tflink for speaking without an introduction
15:41:46 <zodbot> adamw fires tflink for speaking without an introduction
15:41:47 <Nathan[m]123456> adamw: Not at the moment
15:42:18 <adamw> Southern_Gentlem: did you catch my note about the respin GNOME live image showing update notifications when booted live?
15:42:54 <tflink[m]> the rules around here sure are strict, I'll have to remember that
15:44:31 <adamw> strict? you call that strict? when those health and safety people said I have to leave all your limbs attached?!
15:44:46 <Southern_Gentlem> yeah updates released after the creation
15:45:19 <Southern_Gentlem> while we were tesing
15:45:22 <Southern_Gentlem> testing
15:46:08 <adamw> yes, but live images are supposed to never show update notifications
15:46:10 <adamw> even when updates are available
15:46:31 <adamw> so i wondered if you inadvertently used an older kickstart, or something, because we did have to fix that for f36 release images back in march or so
15:46:36 <Southern_Gentlem> that seems strange but ok
15:46:55 <Southern_Gentlem> nope i am using ks from f36 pagure
15:47:30 <Nathan[m]123456> adamw: In fact, I too had noticed this abnormal behaviour with notifications.
15:47:34 <adamw> Southern_Gentlem: well, it's because installing updates on a live boot is never going to work
15:47:47 <adamw> and attempting to do it may well exhaust ram and crash the session.
15:47:56 <Southern_Gentlem> yeah i can see that
15:48:20 <adamw> Southern_Gentlem: so if you used an updated kickstart i'm not sure off the top of my head why it'd be happening :|
15:48:36 <adamw> i guess maybe boot the live image and check all the settings we try to change in the kickstart are actually changed...
15:48:49 <adamw> anyhoo, yeah, just wanted to explain the test failure anyway.
15:49:02 <Southern_Gentlem> i will reclone  and we will see what happens on the next set in a week or so
15:49:17 <Southern_Gentlem> 10days
15:49:28 <adamw> sure
15:51:10 <adamw> alrighty, looks like we're done then, thanks for coming folks!
15:51:13 <adamw> now to go poke at pungi a bit
15:51:39 <sumantro> adamw thanks for hosting
15:52:46 <Nathan[m]123456> Bye Guys, have a good day, see you soon
15:53:57 <adamw> #endmeeting