15:00:38 <adamw> #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
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15:00:44 <adamw> #meetingname fedora-qa
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15:00:48 <adamw> #topic Roll Call
15:00:56 <adamw> ahoyhoy folks, who's around for qa meeting fun?
15:01:20 <rishi[m]> .hello rishi
15:01:27 <zodbot> rishi[m]: rishi 'Debarshi Ray' <debarshir@redhat.com>
15:03:05 * coremodule is here
15:03:17 <rishi> Looks like nobody else wants to have fun? :)
15:03:56 <bcotton> .hello2
15:04:01 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
15:04:12 * kparal is here
15:04:45 <adamw> people are notoriously opposed to fun
15:05:15 <coremodule> wait, you have fun in this meeting? I'm out
15:05:30 <adamw> we do, but you don't have to
15:06:26 * rishi slams a crate of bugs on coremodule 's desk
15:06:27 <adamw> alllrighty, let's get rolling
15:06:32 <adamw> #topic Previous meeting follow-up
15:07:41 <adamw> #info "adamw to read up on how the matrix/irc bridging works for topic setting, and get sumantro appropriate rights to set topics on both sides in the test day channel" - i did this, sadly topic bridging doesn't work in either direction, you have to set it manually on both sides. I mailed sumantro some info on what he needs to set it on IRC
15:08:15 <adamw> #info "adamw to check in with sumantro on status of iot and coreos test weeks" - i did that, and both are in fact live now (iot is just ending)
15:08:21 <adamw> er wait
15:08:24 <adamw> #undo
15:08:24 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by adamw at 15:08:15 : "adamw to check in with sumantro on status of iot and coreos test weeks" - i did that, and both are in fact live now (iot is just ending)
15:08:34 <coremodule> IoT is just starting :)
15:08:46 <adamw> #info "adamw to check in with sumantro on status of iot and coreos test weeks" - i did that, and both are in fact live now (coreos is just ending, iot is starting)
15:09:01 <adamw> any other business from last time?
15:09:21 <geraldosimiao> .hello geraldosimiao
15:09:25 <zodbot> geraldosimiao: geraldosimiao 'Geraldo S. Simião Kutz' <geraldo.simiao.kutz@gmail.com>
15:11:00 <adamw> i guess not!
15:11:03 <adamw> hi geraldo
15:11:18 <adamw> #topic Window manager release criterion proposal
15:11:57 <adamw> #info kparal sent out an updated proposal: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/YK5FYXTDELWVTB2QVHIAUWNRAEFPWHHQ/
15:12:00 <adamw> so far pat and ben responded mostly positively
15:12:05 <adamw> does anyone else have feedback?
15:12:20 <adamw> i think i'm fine with it as a starting point
15:12:21 <geraldosimiao> I like it
15:12:47 <adamw> we need to do a pass creating test cases for recently-added criteria, at some point
15:12:51 <adamw> then automate them...
15:12:52 <lruzicka> .hello2
15:12:57 <zodbot> lruzicka: lruzicka 'Lukáš Růžička' <lruzicka@redhat.com>
15:14:42 <kparal> adamw: Do you mean we can push it live, or work on it more?
15:15:02 <adamw> i mean push it live
15:15:09 <adamw> (in my opinion, anyway :>)
15:16:26 <adamw> any other thoughts?
15:17:31 <bcotton> shipit
15:17:58 <lruzicka> no idea what you are talking about, but I guess it's ok.
15:18:06 <adamw> high effort comment there from lruzicka
15:18:12 <adamw> really putting the thought in :D
15:18:21 <adamw> we're talking about kparal's proposed criterion for window management
15:18:41 <lruzicka> yes, I agreed with it in test list, so my assumption was correct, ship it.
15:18:56 <adamw> #info the window management criterion proposal gathers strong indifference and/or support
15:19:25 <adamw> #topic Fedora 38 status
15:19:32 <adamw> so, things are mostly looking solid, i think
15:19:49 <adamw> the blocker list is relatively short/mostly under control, composes are working
15:20:02 <adamw> #info current status is fairly good, blocker list is short and being worked on
15:20:06 <bcotton> i am concerned about how few blockers we have at this point
15:20:07 <adamw> #info final freeze is tomorrow
15:20:12 * marcdeop[m] is only partly here
15:20:34 <adamw> #info not all validation tests have been run yet, if folks can help run the missing tests on current nightly candidate composes that would be great
15:20:55 <rishi> It will be nice to get this new fedora-toolbox:38 build tested and into the registries for the Fedora 38 GA: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-CONTAINER-2023-5046242970
15:21:21 <rishi> It pulls in the RPM cryptographic fixes: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2183038
15:23:16 <kparal> rishi: I already received an updated image in toolbox, is toolbox pulling from updates-testing before Final? I don't even know how to check
15:23:36 <kparal> I guess you should apply for a freeze exception, if it's not pushed today
15:25:40 <adamw> i don't even know if the freeze applies to non-rpm updates
15:27:24 <adamw> but yes, might be an idea
15:27:37 <adamw> nirik: does final freeze apply to container updaes?
15:29:17 <adamw> alright, we can take the answer later, moving on...
15:29:29 <adamw> #topic Test Day / community event status
15:29:34 <adamw> sumantro: around by any chance?
15:31:08 <adamw> welp, as noted above:
15:31:11 <geraldosimiao> I'm running relval for last f38 20230331 now
15:31:28 <geraldosimiao> Seems doing great
15:31:35 <adamw> #info IoT test day is just starting: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-04-03_Fedora_38_IoT_Edition
15:31:56 <adamw> #info CoreOS test day is wrapping up: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Fedora_38_CoreOS
15:32:04 <adamw> i think that's the last we have planned for F38 cycle
15:32:38 <adamw> #info Upgrade Test Day happened last week: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-03-28_F38_Upgrade_Test_Day - thanks to everyone who tested
15:33:14 <adamw> looks like the recurring theme was issues with ffmpeg when rpmfusion is enabled
15:33:38 <adamw> i'm hoping someone reported that to rpmfusion
15:35:07 <adamw> #topic Open floor
15:35:09 <adamw> any other business, folks?
15:36:34 <geraldosimiao> Adam, this? https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6619
15:38:21 <adamw> could be, yeah
15:39:08 <geraldosimiao> Nicolas set it to: Status RESOLVED INVALID
15:39:47 <adamw> the reply indicates that fixes are in fusion repos, at least
15:40:31 <geraldosimiao> Yeah, must only set the testing repos enabled.
15:40:39 <geraldosimiao> and wait for mirrors to properly sync
15:45:00 <adamw> alrighty, sounds like that's all we've got
15:45:10 <adamw> blocker review meeting in 15 minutes over in #blocker-review:fedoraproject.org
15:45:14 <adamw> thanks for coming, folks!
15:46:55 <adamw> #endmeeting