15:00:12 <adamw> #startmeeting Fedora QA meeting
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15:00:16 <adamw> #meetingname fedora-qa
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15:00:20 <adamw> #topic Roll Call
15:00:31 <luna_> .hello bittin
15:00:33 <zodbot> luna_: bittin 'Luna Jernberg' <droidbittin@gmail.com>
15:00:33 <adamw> ahoyhoy
15:00:36 <luna_> hi
15:00:44 <geraldosimiao> .hello geraldosimiao
15:00:45 <zodbot> geraldosimiao: geraldosimiao 'Geraldo S. Simião Kutz' <geraldo.simiao.kutz@gmail.com>
15:01:03 <nielsenb> .hello2
15:01:04 <zodbot> nielsenb: nielsenb 'Brandon Nielsen' <nielsenb@jetfuse.net>
15:02:57 <adamw> how's everyone doing
15:03:27 <geraldosimiao> ok
15:04:02 <geraldosimiao> I'm here now but must go out in 15 minutes... :(
15:04:54 <adamw> oh dear!
15:04:59 <adamw> did you have anything to bring up while you're here?
15:05:42 <geraldosimiao> nope, no new bugs from my part
15:06:20 <geraldosimiao> just seeing what is opened by others already
15:06:30 <geraldosimiao> blockers and etc...
15:06:32 <adamw> roger roger
15:06:47 <geraldosimiao> must run relval today or tomorow
15:07:04 <geraldosimiao> today is respins day already
15:09:41 <luna_> yep October 38 ISOs and 39 later this month hopefully
15:10:49 <nielsenb> What do we want? Fedora 39. When do we want it? When it's ready. :D
15:11:14 <geraldosimiao> ahh, I noticed that just a few people have participated on the virtualization test day last week
15:12:07 <adamw> ugh, sorry. cat just threw up on the carpet.
15:12:10 <luna_> been a bit too sick and busy to join the test days lately, but using 39 Beta on a laptop and a VM and seems to work there
15:12:17 <luna_> poor cat
15:12:33 <adamw> she could at least throw up on the tiles!
15:12:43 <nielsenb> No, soft things only
15:12:48 <nielsenb> The more abosrbent, the better
15:12:50 <tflink> nah, that would be easy :)
15:13:05 <adamw> geraldosimiao: yeah, i think we wound up crowbarring in rather a lot of test days in a short time at the end of the cycle
15:13:15 <geraldosimiao> and I think maybe we have something happening with libvirtd.service and virt-manager
15:13:15 <adamw> we'd better talk about that with sumantro when he's around
15:13:23 <adamw> oh? i hadn't noticed anything here...
15:13:27 <geraldosimiao> but must investigate further on this
15:14:21 * kparal is here
15:14:25 <geraldosimiao> I'm using F39 KDE for some weeks by now. Its running fine here
15:14:43 <adamw> hi kparal
15:14:46 <luna_> using i3 and Workstation/GNOME works fine here too
15:14:54 <adamw> alright, let's get to the official agenda :D
15:15:01 <adamw> #topic previous meeting follow-up
15:15:31 <adamw> #action "adamw to talk to IoT team and releng and websites about ensuring an IoT compose is ready for beta release" - I did that, and there was one/
15:15:34 <adamw> grr
15:15:36 <adamw> #undo
15:15:36 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by adamw at 15:15:31 : "adamw to talk to IoT team and releng and websites about ensuring an IoT compose is ready for beta release" - I did that, and there was one/
15:15:48 <adamw> #info "adamw to talk to IoT team and releng and websites about ensuring an IoT compose is ready for beta release" - I did that, and there was one
15:15:51 <adamw> any other followup?
15:18:35 <adamw> #topic Fedora 39 status
15:18:50 <adamw> #info Go/No-Go is scheduled for Thursday
15:19:06 <adamw> #info there's a blocker review meeting at the top of the hour in #fedora-blocker-review . we still have blockers
15:19:37 <jailbreak> When we getting ~39?
15:19:57 <luna_> gonna be decided on Thursday, but leaning to next week as of now
15:20:53 <adamw> we're dependent on devs to fix https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2241252 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2241632
15:21:05 <adamw> we can't really do much without those fixes
15:21:11 <adamw> everything else is handle-able
15:22:05 <jailbreak> People still use Fedora on an RPI4?
15:22:46 <luna_> pretty sure someone does, RPi5 is not out yet, people who preordered it early will get it in some weeks
15:23:12 <luna_> but pretty sure everyone is not gonna buy the new Raspberry Pi directly when its out
15:23:39 <jailbreak> not or are?
15:23:42 <adamw> it's probably the most popular aarch64 platform...
15:25:14 <adamw> okay, so, yeah, that's where we're at
15:25:18 <adamw> anything else on f39?
15:26:03 <coremodule> adamw, I'm actively trying to test the above mentioned  RPi4 bug, should have a +/- by blocker bug time
15:26:05 <jailbreak> Yep; how often are kernel upgrades?
15:26:34 <adamw> coremodule: you're reproducing it? or testing a fix?
15:26:40 <coremodule> testing a fix
15:26:44 <adamw> coremodule: ooo
15:27:16 <adamw> jailbreak: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/kernel-overview/
15:28:33 <adamw> since we're in freeze f39 will stay on 6.5 at least till release
15:28:40 <adamw> it will get 6.6 a few weeks after f39 release i guess
15:29:04 <luna_> adamw: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.6-rc6-Released
15:29:19 <adamw> yes
15:29:25 <luna_> so guess it will get it when jforbes and his gang has had time to package it and when people have tested it
15:29:28 <luna_> test week for it?
15:29:41 <adamw> i expect so!
15:31:38 <luna_> so guessing it will be in Fedora in around November timeframe if nothing goes bad
15:32:35 <adamw> something like that, most likely.
15:32:39 <adamw> of course it's in rawhide already.
15:32:50 <luna_> the RCs atleast
15:33:39 <coremodule> adamw, oops. I
15:33:56 <coremodule> 'm testing the fix for the *other* rpi4 blocker, not this one. my mistake, sorry to get your hopes up...
15:33:57 <adamw> * coremodule was eaten by a grue
15:34:06 <adamw> the upgrade one?
15:34:09 <luna_> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=kernel but asking jforbes in #fedora-kernel is better i think
15:34:24 <coremodule> .bug 2241274
15:34:26 <zodbot> coremodule: 2241274 – initial-setup text fails on hardware - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241274
15:34:34 <adamw> oh, that one. well, testing that helps!
15:34:44 <coremodule> is there a third now?
15:34:47 * coremodule looks
15:36:37 <adamw> well there's four?
15:36:45 <adamw> two 'it doesn't boot's, the initial-setup one, and the upgrade one
15:36:51 <adamw> i suspect the two 'it doesn't boot's are the same though
15:39:42 <adamw> #topic Test Day / community event status
15:41:52 <adamw> soo
15:42:44 <adamw> we had quite a few test days...
15:43:06 <adamw> #info several test days happened since the last meeting, see https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events
15:43:16 <adamw> #info thanks to all who attended
15:43:25 <adamw> #info there are no more planned in the near future as f39 schedule is ending
15:43:32 <adamw> anything else?
15:44:51 <nielsenb> I don't have anything
15:46:41 <adamw> #topic Open floor
15:46:45 <adamw> anything else at all? :D
15:46:50 <tflink> nothing from me
15:46:53 <adamw> remember, blocker meeting at the top of the hour
15:47:05 <luna_> don't have energy to attend that today sorry
15:47:10 <adamw> i will say - as mentioned on list - please do help fill out the validation matrices if you can, with all the Basic, Beta and Final tests
15:47:16 <adamw> we need to make sure there are no more blockers lurking
15:47:18 <adamw> no worries luna
15:48:07 <luna_> a bit under the weather got some crap at Gatwick
15:50:08 <adamw> hi, beano
15:50:13 <adamw> we were just wrapping up
15:50:30 <thebeanogamer> :wave: I'm here for the blocker review later, Hexchat is doing it's autojoin thing
15:50:32 <thebeanogamer> Don't mind me
15:51:15 <thebeanogamer> .hello thebeanogamer
15:51:16 <zodbot> thebeanogamer: thebeanogamer 'Daniel Milnes' <daniel@daniel-milnes.uk>
15:51:17 <thebeanogamer> Seen as I'm here
15:51:30 <adamw> ah, gotcha
15:51:36 <adamw> alrighty, well if nobody had anything else...
15:53:32 <adamw> #endmeeting