2025-10-15 17:00:11 <@pboy:fedora.im> !startmeeting fedora-server 
2025-10-15 17:00:13 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-10-15 17:00:11 UTC
2025-10-15 17:00:13 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora-server '
2025-10-15 17:00:13 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic Roll Call
2025-10-15 17:00:23 <@pboy:fedora.im> I'll post the agenda in 2-3 minutes. 
2025-10-15 17:00:23 <@pboy:fedora.im> As usual, let's wait a moment  for everybody to show up.
2025-10-15 17:00:47 <@eseyman:fedora.im> !hello
2025-10-15 17:00:48 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Emmanuel Seyman (eseyman) - he / him / his
2025-10-15 17:00:57 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Hello, Peter
2025-10-15 17:01:16 <@pboy:fedora.im> Hi Emmanuel, yeah, back again!
2025-10-15 17:01:49 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I will be coming and going in front of the computer during the meeting.
2025-10-15 17:01:49 <@eseyman:fedora.im> FTR, I am figuring out what to wear for a funeral tomorrow.
2025-10-15 17:03:11 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, Truly a bad reason, but truly one that cannot be postponed.
2025-10-15 17:03:43 <@pboy:fedora.im> And a tricky problem nowadays.
2025-10-15 17:05:28 <@korora:fedora.im> !hi
2025-10-15 17:05:30 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jocelyn Gould (korora) - she / her / hers
2025-10-15 17:06:14 <@jwhimpel:fedora.im> !hi
2025-10-15 17:06:15 <@zodbot:fedora.im> John Himpel (jwhimpel)
2025-10-15 17:06:22 <@pboy:fedora.im> Welcome Jocelyn! It is good that you found the time.
2025-10-15 17:06:52 <@korora:fedora.im> Today has been.... much better than last week
2025-10-15 17:07:05 <@theprogram:fedora.im> !hi
2025-10-15 17:07:06 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Mat H (theprogram)
2025-10-15 17:07:23 <@copperi:fedora.im> !hi
2025-10-15 17:07:24 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jan Kuparinen (copperi)
2025-10-15 17:08:04 <@pboy:fedora.im> Welcome MatH ! not only interested in Docs  😀 
2025-10-15 17:08:41 <@theprogram:fedora.im> I have too many hats  :)
2025-10-15 17:09:48 <@pboy:fedora.im> Hm, Matrix tells my copperi is typing. Let's neverthless progress.
2025-10-15 17:09:58 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic Agenda
2025-10-15 17:10:13 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Follow-up actions & announcements
2025-10-15 17:10:13 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  F43 release testing
2025-10-15 17:10:13 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Walk through longterm open issues and PRs
2025-10-15 17:10:13 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Improve the structure of our user documentation
2025-10-15 17:10:13 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info  Open Floor
2025-10-15 17:10:28 <@pboy:fedora.im> Any comments here?
2025-10-15 17:10:52 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I'm good
2025-10-15 17:10:57 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK
2025-10-15 17:11:06 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 1. Follow-up actions & announcements
2025-10-15 17:11:54 <@pboy:fedora.im> One topic: in 14 days there is end of Daylight saving in Europe and in 3 weeks in US
2025-10-15 17:12:24 <@pboy:fedora.im> So we have one week where our local times differ. 
2025-10-15 17:12:49 <@pboy:fedora.im> Last year it was always we European to cope with the change in daily routine.
2025-10-15 17:13:20 <@pboy:fedora.im> And I guess, it is easier for us, because in is out of working time for us Europeans.
2025-10-15 17:13:58 <@pboy:fedora.im> Should we proceed the same way this autumn? 
2025-10-15 17:14:24 <@jwhimpel:fedora.im> +1
2025-10-15 17:14:32 <@pboy:fedora.im> Emmanuel Seyman: ?? Vor me it's easy. For you?
2025-10-15 17:14:58 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I can cope with the change
2025-10-15 17:15:42 <@pboy:fedora.im> !agreed: we switch to winter time in sync with US again.
2025-10-15 17:16:21 <@pboy:fedora.im> zodbot: where are you?
2025-10-15 17:17:08 <@pboy:fedora.im> Well, no zodbot / meetbot today.
2025-10-15 17:17:22 <@pboy:fedora.im> Anything else here? 
2025-10-15 17:17:47 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 2. F43 release testing
2025-10-15 17:17:59 <@pboy:fedora.im> Tracking issue: !link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/164
2025-10-15 17:18:32 <@pboy:fedora.im> !info Later today rc1 should be available
2025-10-15 17:18:48 <@pboy:fedora.im> go/nogo meeting tomorrow.
2025-10-15 17:19:39 <@pboy:fedora.im> Our SBC issuer is still not resolved, Minimal and Workstation the same.
2025-10-15 17:20:24 <@pboy:fedora.im> So maybe, we have to put our decision to drop any SBC server image for F43 may be happen. 
2025-10-15 17:20:54 <@pboy:fedora.im> Any other news? 
2025-10-15 17:22:04 <@pboy:fedora.im> Obviously none.
2025-10-15 17:22:51 <@pboy:fedora.im> At least we will be able to update the screenshots in our documentation. The rc doesn't carry the preview notice.
2025-10-15 17:23:50 <@pboy:fedora.im> Maybe we have a short discussion in our Matrix room on Friday, the same time as now?  (17:00 UTC)
2025-10-15 17:25:02 <@pboy:fedora.im> I would change the order of topics and advance to the top 4 
2025-10-15 17:25:17 <@pboy:fedora.im> Because that's important when we update our docs.
2025-10-15 17:25:26 <@pboy:fedora.im> objections?
2025-10-15 17:25:42 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK.
2025-10-15 17:25:45 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 4. Improve the structure of our user documentation
2025-10-15 17:26:02 <@pboy:fedora.im> proposal: https://hackmd.io/@pboy/BJnkUjA3el 
2025-10-15 17:26:26 <@pboy:fedora.im> Unfortunately, we had no discussion on Matrix last week.
2025-10-15 17:28:45 <@pboy:fedora.im> Short break to read ?
2025-10-15 17:29:08 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Yes, please
2025-10-15 17:29:32 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK. let me know if there are any access issues.
2025-10-15 17:29:57 <@theprogram:fedora.im> I signed in and have access
2025-10-15 17:31:13 <@eseyman:fedora.im> * Then we delete stg completely[...]
2025-10-15 17:31:13 <@eseyman:fedora.im> * In stg, we initially [...]
2025-10-15 17:31:13 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I'm not sure I understand the steps:
2025-10-15 17:31:22 <@korora:fedora.im> I feel like this proposal is good.  It appears to follow the way that I understand git to be used
2025-10-15 17:32:10 <@pboy:fedora.im> Emmanuel Seyman: the idea is to make a new stg strictly for those articles, we are discussing.
2025-10-15 17:32:38 <@pboy:fedora.im> So we kind odf recreate stg with new content.
2025-10-15 17:32:50 <@eseyman:fedora.im> I'm not even sure we need stg even then, tbh
2025-10-15 17:33:51 <@pboy:fedora.im> Yeah, we may have a good preview option in forgejo, soon. So, in the mean time stg may still a easy way to discuss.
2025-10-15 17:34:19 <@pboy:fedora.im> Later it may be superfluous 
2025-10-15 17:35:12 <@eseyman:fedora.im> In the meantime, your proposal works for me
2025-10-15 17:35:52 <@pboy:fedora.im> !agreed  Server documentation will be modified according to proposal https://hackmd.io/@pboy/BJnkUjA3el 
2025-10-15 17:36:50 <@pboy:fedora.im> I think am most fluent with docs current git flow, so I will do the modification in the next days.
2025-10-15 17:38:18 <@jwhimpel:fedora.im> On a somewhat related topic,  will the ansible stuff in the old repo be automatically moved to the new repo?  Or will manual migration be required?
2025-10-15 17:39:05 <@pboy:fedora.im> The Ansible repo from pagure is already on forgejo without modifications, so far.
2025-10-15 17:40:18 <@pboy:fedora.im> Picking up this opportunity: when will we be ready to continue our work on Ansible NFS. If I remember, Emmanuel Seyman  and John Himpel had to do some work and wanted to coordinate efforts.
2025-10-15 17:40:42 <@eseyman:fedora.im>  I did promise that...
2025-10-15 17:41:27 <@jwhimpel:fedora.im> So did I, but a new knee sort of become a higher priority.
2025-10-15 17:42:40 <@pboy:fedora.im> Yeah, of course.  I just don't want to give the impression that we're forgetting about it.
2025-10-15 17:42:58 <@pboy:fedora.im> And, I already have the next “attack” up my sleeve. My text for standalone Samba is nearly complete.
2025-10-15 17:43:34 <@pboy:fedora.im> I have to do some discussion with abbra , but otherwise ....
2025-10-15 17:44:36 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, lets continue with the agenda 
2025-10-15 17:44:45 <@mowest:fedora.im> Getting back to file servers sounds interesting I don't use Samba or NFS in my homelab, been happy with syncthing.
2025-10-15 17:44:58 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 3. Walk through longterm open issues and PRs 
2025-10-15 17:45:26 <@pboy:fedora.im> no Tracking issue 
2025-10-15 17:45:36 <@abbra:matrix.org> I'm on vacation this week, trying to spend time with my family (school holidays) and traveling. 
2025-10-15 17:46:28 <@pboy:fedora.im> abbra: Thanks for watching us nevertheless. I still need about 1 weekl to complete a first rough draft. And then no rush  :-)
2025-10-15 17:47:05 <@pboy:fedora.im> And enjoy undisturbed family life!
2025-10-15 17:47:28 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, how do we handle the pile of open issues? 
2025-10-15 17:48:24 <@pboy:fedora.im> proposal: each of us picks up one open issue and proposes what to do with it - or does the required action. 
2025-10-15 17:48:43 <@pboy:fedora.im> And next week we can discuss the progress we made. 
2025-10-15 17:49:24 <@pboy:fedora.im> So, each enters themself as "assigned" to mark the picked up issues
2025-10-15 17:49:47 <@mowest:fedora.im> I'm assuming all these are on pagure?
2025-10-15 17:50:14 <@pboy:fedora.im> currently both on pagure and forge.
2025-10-15 17:50:29 <@pboy:fedora.im> We should use forge, i think.
2025-10-15 17:50:57 <@eseyman:fedora.im> Most of them are in pagure, though
2025-10-15 17:51:19 <@mowest:fedora.im> Okay so we just focus on forge and consider pagure issues archived or something like that?
2025-10-15 17:51:44 <@pboy:fedora.im> Emmanuel Seyman:   "them" relates to issues or members?
2025-10-15 17:51:56 <@eseyman:fedora.im> them == issues
2025-10-15 17:52:28 <@eseyman:fedora.im> mowest: I think Peter had in mind that we would either close the issue or dupe it in forgejo (and then close it)
2025-10-15 17:52:37 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, I copies all issues from pagure to forge, so both are in sync. 
2025-10-15 17:53:31 <@pboy:fedora.im> As soon as docs has switched our docs to forge (I'm working on this, not that easy), I will close pagure.
2025-10-15 17:53:32 <@eseyman:fedora.im> oh, then close all pagure tickets. What point is there in keeping them open ?
2025-10-15 17:53:42 <@eseyman:fedora.im> oh, then close all pagure tickets. What point is there in keeping them open?
2025-10-15 17:53:54 <@pboy:fedora.im> there is no point, 
2025-10-15 17:54:05 <@eseyman:fedora.im> exactly
2025-10-15 17:55:26 <@pboy:fedora.im> I suppose, the forge team has a plan what to do with pagure and how to do. I think, we should follow Fedora procedure, if there is any. I'll ask over there. 
2025-10-15 17:57:43 <@pboy:fedora.im> Anyway, I modify the README on pagure later today.
2025-10-15 17:58:23 <@pboy:fedora.im> proposed  !agreed  Each WG member selects an open issue on Forge and either makes a suggestion on what to do or deals with the issue themselves until next week meeting.
2025-10-15 17:58:37 <@pboy:fedora.im> objections?
2025-10-15 17:59:02 <@pboy:fedora.im> !agreed  Each WG member selects an open issue on Forge and either makes a suggestion on what to do or deals with the issue themselves until next week meeting.
2025-10-15 17:59:07 <@eseyman:fedora.im> works for me
2025-10-15 17:59:18 <@korora:fedora.im> Works for me
2025-10-15 17:59:21 <@pboy:fedora.im> !action Each WG member selects an open issue on Forge and either makes a suggestion on what to do or deals with the issue themselves until next week meeting. 
2025-10-15 17:59:33 <@pboy:fedora.im> Next top
2025-10-15 17:59:42 <@pboy:fedora.im> !topic 5. Open Floor 
2025-10-15 18:00:57 <@pboy:fedora.im> MatH: Happy to see you here. How can I persuade you to join us? 
2025-10-15 18:02:42 <@pboy:fedora.im> Hm, obviously he is off. It's a great cooperation with him in Docs.
2025-10-15 18:03:13 <@pboy:fedora.im> OK, anything else here today? 
2025-10-15 18:03:49 <@pboy:fedora.im> So I'll close now.
2025-10-15 18:03:57 <@pboy:fedora.im> !endmeeting