19:01:41 #startmeeting 19:01:42 Meeting started Wed Mar 31 19:01:41 2010 UTC. The chair is franciscod. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:01:44 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:01:47 #chair thomasj_ Subfusc 19:01:48 Current chairs: Subfusc franciscod thomasj_ 19:01:54 #chair rrix 19:01:55 Current chairs: Subfusc franciscod rrix thomasj_ 19:01:57 jut in case :P 19:02:02 :) 19:02:33 #topic roll call 19:02:40 .fasinfo ankursinha 19:02:41 franciscod: User: ankursinha, Name: Ankur Sinha, email: sanjay.ankur@gmail.com, Creation: 2008-05-28, IRC Nick: franciscod, Timezone: Asia/Kolkata, Locale: en, Extension: 5106611, GPG key ID: 0x5E9BF638, Status: active 19:02:45 franciscod: Approved Groups: @gitfedora-tour cla_fedora cla_done ambassadors fedorabugs freemedia packager 19:03:07 .fasinfo Subfusc 19:03:08 franciscod: User "Subfusc" doesn't exist 19:03:14 er.. 19:03:19 .fasinfo thomasj 19:03:20 franciscod: User: thomasj, Name: None, email: th.p.janssen@googlemail.com, Creation: 2008-02-10, IRC Nick: thomasj, Timezone: None, Locale: None, Extension: 5103110, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 19:03:20 .fasinfo subfusc 19:03:25 franciscod: Unapproved Groups: qa 19:03:30 franciscod: Approved Groups: gitfedora-tour packager triagers cla_fedora cla_done irc-support-operators fedorabugs 19:03:34 Subfusc: User: subfusc, Name: Sindre Wetjen, email: sindre.w@gmail.com, Creation: 2009-06-11, IRC Nick: subfusc, Timezone: Europe/Oslo, Locale: en, Extension: 5132102, GPG key ID: 6E6598CC, Status: active 19:03:38 Subfusc: Approved Groups: gitfedora-tour cvsl10n cla_done cla_fedora 19:03:44 ah, great 19:04:02 #topic change to fedora-tour.py 19:04:04 no uppercase in usernames ;) 19:04:33 Subfusc: heh, okie 19:04:43 Subfusc: you had asked why i made changes to fedora-tour.py 19:04:49 yes 19:05:00 i was only asking why you commented out the test part of the main window 19:05:03 (in my branch, i dont think ive pushed that to master, have i?) 19:05:09 no 19:05:10 ;) 19:05:30 its understandable if its only for testing in your branch 19:05:32 Subfusc: it was just so that if someone decides to see what is going on, he sees a complete portion :P 19:05:42 thats all 19:05:43 heh 19:06:11 i dont think thats necessary, but ok =) its not realy a big deal for anyone 19:06:12 :p 19:06:35 it aint gone to master, so its fine, i dint like the thing popping up everytime i tested :P 19:06:45 hehe ;) 19:06:52 #topic my new idea :P 19:07:01 Subfusc: thomasj_ : about the main menu 19:07:10 you wont believe it, but it came in my dream :P 19:07:10 with a ":P". sounds promising 19:07:21 dreams are always good :) 19:07:25 the main menu is to have all the tours, 19:07:27 right? 19:07:30 Subfusc: ^^ ? 19:07:51 well, yeah 19:07:58 it should have all the tours\ 19:08:15 yup 19:08:18 (what do you mean by that exactly) ? 19:08:22 and the tours are to include tech stuff, as in "your fedora system" 19:08:50 and community stuff , as in "sign up to bugzilla, contribute blah blah" 19:08:54 not at this point ? 19:09:20 Subfusc: but that is the final goal, and we will include some community stuff even in the initial release 19:09:31 we have pland a tour (notice singual) for what new in your system. 19:09:52 yes? 19:09:53 roger, then we can keep this for the future, when we begin to add more and more tours 19:10:01 Yeah, but it got expanded 19:10:20 thomasj_: we cant expand on something we dont have 19:10:20 XD 19:10:26 Subfusc: thomasj_ : following the rule "release quick and frequently" :P 19:10:39 we start with the "whats new in your system" 19:10:47 I'm fine with either, full blown, or step by step :) 19:10:47 and keep adding a new tour per release 19:11:04 that way we can get testing, and feedback with every tour 19:11:16 okay, so heres the idea 19:11:33 the "page" can just have two "buttons" side by side 19:11:44 aligned "center" vertically 19:11:53 that say "tech tours" "community tours" 19:11:58 or something of the sourt 19:11:59 sort 19:12:18 when you click on "tech tours", the community tour portion, say on the right, gets faded, 19:12:35 and the tech tours appear on that side 19:12:38 similiarly, 19:12:55 if you click on the community tours, (which is on the right), 19:12:58 franciscod: that is a good idea. we should keep it for future releases 19:13:19 the "tech tours" portion, on the left, fades, and the community tours apper over it 19:13:29 Sounds great 19:13:32 Subfusc: it fit ths "flashy" description :P 19:13:40 s/fit ths/fits the/ 19:13:45 yes 19:13:53 * franciscod needs #cupofcoffee :) 19:14:05 my #cupofcoffie was sour :( 19:14:09 heh 19:14:12 bad milk :P 19:14:32 Subfusc: thomasj_ : is the idea fine? 19:14:41 or too far fetched to implement? 19:14:47 i like the menu idea. The tabs might need diffrent names, but that we can discuss when we get there 19:14:51 Sounds great 19:15:00 as always, i havent thought about the practical aspect yet, it was just a dream :P 19:15:19 #action Subfusc thomasj_ franciscod rrix hiemanshu : decide new names for tabs 19:15:20 franciscod: its not that far fetched. Its a lot of code thou 19:15:20 : 19:15:22 :P 19:15:33 Subfusc: dont think we mind that, do we :P 19:15:46 #idea -> remember this idea for tour menu :P 19:16:20 Subfusc: i do realize that MenuObject.py is pending :| 19:16:31 do i write it with this new thing in mind? 19:16:40 or like we had initially planned? 19:16:54 thats why i sorta called the quick meet :) 19:17:06 franciscod: its a minor rewrite for the backend 19:17:20 so in first case, just do it like we originally intended 19:17:25 okay 19:17:45 ill do that then 19:17:49 thats about all that ive got 19:18:00 mk 19:18:03 rrix: is at school so he wont make it , he had emailed me 19:18:14 #topic Doc teams 19:18:35 We need to contact them, have any of you heard rrix do anything about it? :/ 19:18:51 Subfusc: the marketing team had something to do with fed-tour on agenda 19:18:51 Not in #fedora-kde 19:18:59 but rrix is better informed, 19:19:07 we'll have to wait for him to tell us 19:19:13 as for docs team, we got nothing yet 19:19:38 the docs team is sorta difficult to catch hold of 19:20:13 ill check up the latest list of FADs etc to see if we can use on of them 19:20:30 i have a FAD scheduled for 29th may, but thats quite a long time away 19:20:45 Subfusc: thomasj_ : any ideas on doc team? 19:20:52 no 19:21:13 Never had anything to do with them, so sadly, no 19:21:23 we need to know how they want to make the content for us 19:21:37 #action rrix email gitfedora-tour-commitors@fp.o regarding doc and mktg teams 19:21:48 yeah 19:21:55 #action rrix email gitfedora-tour-members@fp.o regarding doc and mktg teams 19:22:08 we are finished with that then? 19:22:14 yep 19:22:18 we have to wait for rrix on this one? 19:22:35 Subfusc: yeah 19:22:40 kk 19:22:49 #topic open floor 19:22:59 I can nag him tomorrow morning in -kde ;) 19:23:03 any one else had any dreams ? 19:23:03 we need to discuss the prores we are having 19:23:08 thomasj_: heh, please do that :P 19:23:15 lol 19:23:17 prores meaning? 19:23:18 progress 19:23:34 one thing i can say for certain : the splash is on 90% lol 19:23:43 currently i cant see any commits from rrix or hiemanshu 19:23:49 Subfusc: we arent using gtk at all, right? 19:23:59 no, not unless we have to 19:24:16 minimal dependencies = good 19:24:18 Subfusc: then we need to figure out how to remove the title bar from clutter :) 19:24:42 Subfusc: the splash has title bar etc right now , heeh 19:24:43 franciscod: ask the clutter dev team? 19:24:55 ah.. important 19:25:06 #action thomasj_ Subfusc rrix hiemanshu join clutter mailing list 19:25:21 Another ML.. *sigh* 19:25:24 ;p 19:25:34 thomasj_: searchfolders are a good ting 19:25:36 seriousl 19:25:37 y 19:25:44 hhe 19:25:49 ive got a loooong list too 19:25:53 * franciscod goes to look for link 19:25:55 one sec 19:26:18 the email is clutter@o-hand.com 19:26:29 perfect, thanks 19:26:36 also, should we say that the frontend for main is up for grabs? (since there are no apparent progress from either hiemanshu or rrix) ? 19:26:36 the ML doesnt have a footer with link .. crap 19:26:59 dont worry 19:27:10 Subfusc: redefine main please, its been so long since we discussed it that ive kinda forgotten :X 19:27:36 main part of tour 19:27:46 im to write a backend which takes stuff from a conf or an xml whatever and shuffs it into the main menu 19:27:50 just revising :) 19:28:00 Subfusc: you mean the tours? 19:28:02 yepp 19:28:06 and yes 19:28:14 yep, up for grabs it is 19:28:34 I think i will start on the mainwindow. 19:28:38 clutter+subscribe o-hand.com 19:28:45 #action franciscod Subfusc thomasj_ rrix hiemanshu : ask rrix hiemanshu when they plan to push regarding main :) 19:28:45 thomasj_: you want to do some coding? 19:29:10 #link clutter+subscribe o-hand.com 19:29:22 Subfusc, i need some time to catch up after the hospital horror. I will then check out the ,aster branch and see what i *can* do :) 19:29:34 *master 19:29:38 thomasj_: sounds fine by me 19:29:39 :) 19:29:43 Subfusc: you need to make a wiki page that defines the coding standards and style etc :P 19:29:53 oh fuck, that is correct :P 19:29:56 #action Subfusc : you need to make a wiki page that defines the coding standards and style etc :P 19:30:11 anything else we had talke about? 19:30:16 #action franciscod : Kick subfusc if he doesnt do it 19:30:17 #action franciscod post logs :) 19:30:24 Subfusc: gladly :P 19:30:33 ;) 19:30:45 Subfusc: shoudl we also add the make etc to master? 19:30:54 make? 19:31:04 by make i mean whatever we use to make the package? 19:31:11 i forgot what module py uses.. 19:31:12 lol 19:31:25 to "build" 19:31:43 like in %build for specs? 19:31:58 Subfusc: yeah, there's a module py uses 19:32:03 I guess he means a makefile.in/makefile.am or cmake file 19:32:06 * franciscod bangs his head trying to remember 19:32:10 thomasj_: +1 19:32:13 Setup.py? 19:32:17 but theres a module that py has for this !!!!! 19:32:31 Subfusc: maybe, ill re-find out and post 19:32:36 :( 19:32:43 wheres my brain when i need it ? :X 19:32:53 It sleeps and dreams ;) 19:32:55 we should include it. But its not a priority at this point :p 19:33:40 Subfusc: yeah, but we should keep is so it can be updated as we add new stuff, 19:33:54 itll become a pain in the behind when we have a lot of files etc, 19:33:57 IMO 19:34:16 this way we can add 2-3 files as we add them to the gitty 19:34:24 +1 19:34:50 #action franciscod : RE find out what the py packaging/building shit was 19:34:57 * Subfusc doesnt quite follow 19:35:27 Subfusc: we have less than 10 files right now, 19:35:39 so we write a small "setup.py" 19:35:51 so it can ? 19:36:02 if we dont, and we sit to write it during the first release, well have a large number of files to recall etc 19:36:13 ah 19:36:17 Subfusc: so it can place the files in their correct locations etc etc 19:36:30 when someone wants to test etc etc etc 19:36:42 * franciscod is making just enough sense to get the idea across 19:36:51 good point, but atleast then we have an overview of what files we have 19:36:52 ;) 19:36:52 :) 19:37:00 Subfusc: yep 19:37:11 Subfusc: thomasj_ : anything else? 19:37:22 Subfusc: thomasj_ : is this time okay for you folks though? 19:37:32 or would you like to change it or something? 19:37:37 This time is perfectly here, but i guess hard for you 19:37:40 * franciscod cant figure out a time that suits rrix 19:38:01 There's no time that fits him ;p 19:38:04 thomasj_: i can manage.. no biggie, tomorrows a two hour class day only 19:38:15 thomasj_: he roams around all day on -kde :P 19:38:30 anyway, we done here? 19:38:40 nice quick productive meeting? :P :P :p 19:38:46 yepp 19:38:47 yep 19:38:47 we are 19:38:50 okie 19:38:52 ending 19:38:55 #endmeeting