15:32:22 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting Fedora tour 27 March 2012 15:32:22 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Mar 27 15:32:22 2012 UTC. The chair is FranciscoD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:32:22 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:32:30 <FranciscoD> #topic Rollcall 15:32:34 <FranciscoD> .fas FranciscoD 15:32:38 <zodbot> FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com> - franciscodubo 'Francisco Javier Dubó Ortíz' <f.dubo@hotmail.cl> 15:32:40 <FranciscoD> .fas kumarpraveen 15:32:41 <zodbot> FranciscoD: kumarpraveen '' <kumarpraveen.nitdgp@gmail.com> 15:32:52 <FranciscoD> .fas Subfusc 15:32:53 <zodbot> FranciscoD: subfusc 'Sindre Wetjen' <sindre.w@gmail.com> 15:32:54 <FranciscoD> .fas underscores 15:32:56 <zodbot> FranciscoD: underscores 'Fabian Kanngießer' <fabian.kanngiesser@yahoo.de> 15:33:02 <FranciscoD> .fasinfo kishan 15:33:03 <zodbot> FranciscoD: User: kishan, Name: Kishan Goyal, email: fabhoneydew@gmail.com, Creation: 2008-08-18, IRC Nick: kishan OR KishanGoyal, Timezone: Asia/Kolkata, Locale: en, GPG key ID: HoneyInVeins=HIV, Status: active 15:33:07 <zodbot> FranciscoD: Approved Groups: gitfedora-tour cla_fedora cla_done freemedia ambassadors docs cla_fpca 15:33:18 <FranciscoD> there, done 15:33:32 <Subfusc> Its so handy when I dont have to do anything during rollcall 15:33:43 <Subfusc> I don't even have to be here 15:33:44 <Subfusc> :P 15:34:00 <underscores> :P 15:34:48 <FranciscoD> Agenda: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-tour/wiki/meeting-agenda 15:34:51 <FranciscoD> also in the topic 15:35:04 <FranciscoD> #topic UI theme 15:35:11 <FranciscoD> http://freehtml5templates.com/downloads/free/vividphoto/ 15:35:23 <FranciscoD> anyone not had a look at this should please do this now 15:35:29 * FranciscoD waits for 2 minutes 15:35:45 <FranciscoD> now, what we need to decide on are modifications to this concept 15:35:54 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: would you like to start stripping it? ;) 15:36:27 <Subfusc> erhm, only if its a girl? 15:36:49 <FranciscoD> s/it/her/ 15:36:53 <FranciscoD> now? ;) 15:36:54 <underscores> Subfusc: have fantasy on that :) 15:37:07 <FranciscoD> after the meeting 15:37:08 <FranciscoD> :P 15:37:25 <Subfusc> FranciscoD: but what do you mean? What effects needs to be toned down? 15:37:43 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: aye 15:38:03 <Subfusc> Well, first of all, we don't want the "floating menu going down to the bottom" thing 15:38:11 <Subfusc> It will only waste time and resources 15:38:16 <Subfusc> bouncing text, not a big fan 15:39:27 <Subfusc> Other than that, arrow should move down when closing the menu 15:39:45 <Subfusc> and the coming out of the side menu is badly designed IMO 15:39:50 <Subfusc> Was there anything more? 15:39:52 <Subfusc> :P 15:39:55 <FranciscoD> ? 15:40:15 <Subfusc> FranciscoD: ? 15:40:16 <praveenkumar> ! 15:40:27 <FranciscoD> FranciscoD: go 15:40:32 <FranciscoD> so, to summarize 15:40:54 <tatica> o/ 15:40:54 <FranciscoD> 1. the navigation part can be fixed to the bottom? Instead of it expanding from anyplace? 15:41:09 <FranciscoD> 2. Text should be normalized 15:41:19 <underscores> tatica: hello :) 15:41:20 <FranciscoD> 3. we dont really need the side menu 15:41:31 * FranciscoD realizes he should have used #info 15:41:34 <FranciscoD> #info 1. the navigation part can be fixed to the bottom? Instead of it expanding from anyplace? 15:41:37 <FranciscoD> #info 2. Text should be normalized 15:41:39 <FranciscoD> # info3. we dont really need the side menu 15:41:43 <FranciscoD> #info 3. we dont really need the side menu 15:41:47 <FranciscoD> eof 15:41:49 <FranciscoD> praveenkumar: go 15:41:53 <FranciscoD> tatica: hello :D 15:42:05 <praveenkumar> Subfusc: Instead of floating menu we can put "forward > and backward < " navigation buttons 15:42:12 <tatica> hello guys, please, continue :) I will try to catch up 15:42:12 <praveenkumar> eof 15:42:19 * thunderbirdtr listens 15:42:32 <Subfusc> ! 15:42:35 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: go 15:42:41 * suchakra is here at last :P 15:42:49 <Subfusc> praveenkumar: forward and backwards needs to be visible at all times IMO 15:42:50 <FranciscoD> tatica: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-tour/2012-03-27/fedora-tour.2012-03-27-15.32.log.txt 15:42:50 * niteshnarayanlal is also here , trying to catch up :) 15:42:52 <Subfusc> eof 15:42:56 <FranciscoD> ! 15:42:58 <FranciscoD> FranciscoD: go 15:43:03 <praveenkumar> ! 15:43:19 <FranciscoD> alright, the forward and backward can be used to navigate to the immediate previous or next "slide" 15:43:40 <FranciscoD> but I still propose we have a navigation pane like so, to enable folks to move to other areas 15:43:49 <Subfusc> ! 15:43:49 <FranciscoD> moving one by one will kinda be slow IMO 15:43:52 <FranciscoD> eof 15:43:53 <FranciscoD> praveenkumar: go 15:44:13 <praveenkumar> already discussed eof 15:44:18 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: go 15:44:31 <FranciscoD> bckurera: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-tour/2012-03-27/fedora-tour.2012-03-27-15.32.log.txt <- log link 15:44:57 <Subfusc> Navigation pain should fill entire edge (one of them) And not float like the one in the example IMO 15:44:59 <Subfusc> Eof 15:45:07 <FranciscoD> ! 15:45:16 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: so you mean, we just have it in expanded form 15:45:20 <FranciscoD> right? 15:45:20 <FranciscoD> eof 15:45:24 <kishan> ! 15:45:25 <suchakra> ! 15:45:26 <Subfusc> ! 15:45:29 <FranciscoD> woah 15:45:30 <FranciscoD> kishan: go 15:45:48 <kishan> would be good to have a left side-pane 15:45:53 <FranciscoD> ? 15:45:59 <kishan> that has finer details 15:46:09 <kishan> about the image on the right 15:46:25 <praveenkumar> ! 15:46:36 <kishan> err.. I guess no one understood that, isnt it? 15:46:51 <FranciscoD> kishan: eof? then folks will pile on ;) 15:47:02 <kishan> hmm , eof :P 15:47:09 <FranciscoD> suchakra: go 15:47:10 <suchakra> i don't think we need to have so comprehensive animations to hide navigation pane. It eats up so many resouces. a simple pop in/out will siffice 15:47:20 <suchakra> its too heavy 15:47:36 * underscores is afk (eating) =) 15:47:37 * FranciscoD points out that Subfusc already pointed out that we can have a fixed navigation pane 15:47:39 <suchakra> we need to concentrate more on the interaction part in the DE's UI 15:47:52 * suchakra notes that 15:47:57 <suchakra> eof 15:48:02 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: go 15:48:09 <Subfusc> FranciscoD: I mean like the one at the bottom in the example. Move it to one side instead of having it floating in the middle like the menu in that example. 15:48:22 <Subfusc> also suchakra++ 15:48:23 <Subfusc> eof 15:48:29 <FranciscoD> praveenkumar: go\ 15:48:31 <FranciscoD> ! 15:48:39 <suchakra> ! 15:49:12 <praveenkumar> I think we put details in the images itself, no need to create extra pannel for that 15:49:14 <praveenkumar> eof 15:50:26 <FranciscoD> FranciscoD: go 15:50:30 <FranciscoD> praveenkumar: ++ 15:50:42 <FranciscoD> kishan: If you see the mockups we've made, the details are all on the image itself, in forms of pop up "bubbles". 15:50:42 <Subfusc> ? 15:50:58 <FranciscoD> i dont want it to go anywhere near a wiki UI 15:51:04 <FranciscoD> (that isn't the intention) 15:51:05 <FranciscoD> eof 15:51:07 * thunderbirdtr wonder where is mockups ? 15:51:07 <FranciscoD> suchakra: 15:51:09 <suchakra> the bottom image strip is inspiting for icons for most commonly used apps but the way it naviages is a bit intimidating to a novice user. Simple buttons would suffice. 15:51:10 <FranciscoD> suchakra: go 15:51:28 <suchakra> also, i love the popup idea for displaying "more info" 15:51:54 <suchakra> its something like http://suchakra.fedorapeople.org/some-designs/txthub.html 15:52:17 <suchakra> i hope thats what FranciscoD was trying to say :P 15:52:19 <suchakra> eof 15:52:26 <Subfusc> ! 15:52:28 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: go 15:52:31 <FranciscoD> ! 15:52:51 <FranciscoD> thunderbirdtr: erm, let me get you a link, a minute 15:52:56 <Subfusc> What do you mean by "put details in the images itself" ? 15:53:05 <Subfusc> eof 15:53:11 <FranciscoD> FranciscoD: go 15:53:24 * suchakra ripped some part of that ui from web :P 15:53:25 <FranciscoD> well, lets say we're explaining the DE default desktop 15:53:31 <FranciscoD> in its pristine form 15:53:47 <kishan> thunderbirdtr: http://suchakra.fedorapeople.org/fedora-tour/mockups/screen1.png 15:53:48 <FranciscoD> we'd like to show the user the components of the default desktop 15:53:58 <FranciscoD> so, we'll likelyt have a screenshot in the middle 15:54:14 <thunderbirdtr> kishan, thank you 15:54:23 <FranciscoD> and using JS, the various parts of the screenshot will be "interactive", 15:54:23 * thunderbirdtr looking.. 15:54:37 <FranciscoD> so, when we mouse_over the activities menu for instance 15:54:54 <suchakra> ! 15:55:00 <FranciscoD> you get a nice pop up that goes "the gnome activities menu. Click here for details" 15:55:16 <FranciscoD> on click, we can bring up an image of the activities menu with more details 15:55:21 <FranciscoD> this is what i had in mind 15:55:32 <FranciscoD> oh and #link http://www.asciiflow.com/#5817105695602619919 15:55:37 <FranciscoD> is that good enough? 15:55:51 <FranciscoD> next prev navigation "buttons" 15:56:01 <FranciscoD> and a fixed navigation pane at the bottom 15:56:28 <FranciscoD> we can decide whether the navigation pane at the bottom needs to be interactive, or if we'll program it to display a range 15:56:42 <FranciscoD> maybe N -3 to N + 3, where N is the current "slide" 15:56:44 <FranciscoD> phew 15:56:45 <FranciscoD> eof 15:56:53 <FranciscoD> suchakra: go 15:56:56 <suchakra> FranciscoD ++ 15:56:59 <suchakra> eof 15:57:25 <FranciscoD> ! 15:57:28 <FranciscoD> FranciscoD: go 15:57:43 <Subfusc> ! 15:57:54 <FranciscoD> the ieda is to highlight the portions, sort of to "attract" the new user to use the mouse and explore the image 15:57:57 <FranciscoD> eof 15:57:57 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: go 15:58:00 * suchakra thinks tatica 's input may be valuable too :P 15:58:16 <tatica> I have a video that I would like to show you guys 15:58:34 <tatica> it is sorta what I'm trying to do (but my free time it's been NON-existing lately) 15:58:38 <Subfusc> I would just like to note that extended use of transparency, especially on non-hw-accel desktops can strain the CPU eof 15:58:41 <tatica> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fr_dBAjqug&feature=youtu.be 15:59:03 <tatica> what we need to do, to make fedora more atractive is to make it less geeky and more human 15:59:21 <tatica> not talk about the awesome apps we have, but how they (and our distro as package) can solve or help with yout life 15:59:24 <tatica> your 15:59:34 <FranciscoD> ! 15:59:37 <FranciscoD> ? rather 15:59:41 <tatica> I'm completely lost right now, so i just shoot that idea :D 15:59:41 <tatica> eof 15:59:54 <FranciscoD> tatica: i think the fedora tour can really help here 16:00:10 <FranciscoD> the ambassadors should really be asked to take this up IMO 16:00:21 * FranciscoD wouldnt want one more fedora team ;) 16:00:26 <thunderbirdtr> FranciscoD, ++ 16:00:32 <tatica> Ambassadors and Mktg 16:00:50 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: i agree with you. We need to keep cpu usage in mind. So, only use effects *where* *required* 16:00:52 <Subfusc> ! 16:00:57 * tatica <3 ascii 16:01:11 <FranciscoD> if its sleek enough, we really wont need to add extra flashy overhead to it 16:01:13 <FranciscoD> eof 16:01:14 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: go 16:01:19 <suchakra> ! 16:01:25 <FranciscoD> tatica: ambassadors+marketing+++ 16:01:37 <Subfusc> This is more Information, and a call for ideas to tatica since she was on the subject 16:01:56 <tatica> simply = better 16:02:07 * FranciscoD reminds everyone to stick to topic. We can take an openfloor :) 16:02:11 <Subfusc> I'm going to the gathering (the largest computer mess in europe, and I'm talking there, so if there is anything I could talk about, ideas are welcome 16:02:13 <Subfusc> eof 16:02:38 <FranciscoD> Moved to openfloor. Please keep your ideas and throw them at Subfusc there ;) 16:02:41 <FranciscoD> suchakra: go 16:02:48 <suchakra> Subfusc++ 16:03:03 <FranciscoD> huh, you're going to the gathering too? :O 16:03:07 <underscores|2> I missed some stuff 16:03:10 <suchakra> no way 16:03:25 <FranciscoD> underscores|2: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-tour/2012-03-27/fedora-tour.2012-03-27-15.32.log.txt 16:03:27 <suchakra> i was ++ing on his idea about cpu usage 16:03:30 <suchakra> :P 16:03:44 <FranciscoD> i assume eof suchakra :P 16:03:48 <suchakra> agree with tatica too 16:04:01 <suchakra> on simple = better idea 16:04:03 <suchakra> eof 16:04:06 <FranciscoD> suchakra: how busy are you with fudcon KL artwork? 16:04:15 <FranciscoD> and for how long? 16:04:15 * suchakra eats lot of time thinking 16:04:32 <FranciscoD> "speak now, or be silent forever" 16:04:33 <suchakra> FranciscoD somewhat busy. just did a single button :P 16:04:35 * thunderbirdtr thinks after that FranciscoD needs tatica's great talents for design :)) 16:04:40 <Subfusc> FranciscoD: go to next subject perhaps? before we get lost. :P 16:04:53 <suchakra> FranciscoD: will be busy till sat/sun 16:04:57 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: this really is the only subjetc ;) 16:05:06 <tatica> oh lol... 16:05:10 <suchakra> lol 16:05:12 <FranciscoD> alright, since suchakra doenst have the cycles currently 16:05:14 <tatica> I think you guys need to kidnap me from work for a week 16:05:15 <tatica> :D 16:05:35 * underscores|2 gets a helicopter ready 16:05:40 <tatica> xD 16:05:40 <suchakra> tatica: yeah. i think so! 16:05:47 <thunderbirdtr> :D 16:05:49 <tatica> please... please kidnap me! lol 16:05:50 <FranciscoD> tatica: hehe, you also have the fedora videos + insight 16:05:54 <tatica> yeah 16:05:56 <thunderbirdtr> underscores|2, tatica +++ 16:06:00 <tatica> videos, insight 16:06:01 <tatica> flisol 16:06:02 <tatica> fudcon 16:06:06 <tatica> tour? 16:06:08 <FranciscoD> so i really doubt you have cycles :P 16:06:08 <tatica> life? 16:06:08 * suchakra is bored with flex + C at work :( 16:06:09 <thunderbirdtr> :D 16:06:13 <underscores|2> tatica: and you are a genuis designer :D 16:06:15 <thunderbirdtr> no life is left 16:06:16 <thunderbirdtr> :D 16:06:19 <FranciscoD> lol 16:06:24 <kishan> :D 16:06:27 <tatica> I think I will have to start sleeping only 2 hours a day to have everything done 16:06:28 <FranciscoD> that isnt new amongst geeks ;) 16:06:33 <tatica> underscores|2, nop... I'm not, however, I like to help :) 16:06:39 <underscores|2> tatica: thank you =) 16:06:41 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD do the mockups based on today's discussion 16:06:45 <tatica> to you guys :) 16:06:46 <FranciscoD> that's done. 16:06:51 <thunderbirdtr> thank you 16:06:53 <Subfusc> suchakra: if youre bored with flex, try jflex. You will eat your heart out in order to go back to flex 16:06:54 <FranciscoD> #topic Subfusc 's combiner 16:07:11 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: your topic. When do we expect documentation on how to work the designer? :) 16:07:13 <suchakra> Subfusc: he he 16:07:22 <suchakra> ! 16:07:36 <FranciscoD> 2. Is the css going to be internal, or can we use an external css file 16:07:42 <Subfusc> FranciscoD: oh shit, i Forgot. XD I've been so busy these two weeks 16:07:51 <FranciscoD> since, the CSS doesnt need to be customized for the UI we've decided on? 16:07:56 <Subfusc> FranciscoD: I can do some preliminary things saturday? 16:08:00 <tatica> ok, time for me to move 16:08:02 * FranciscoD thinks an external CSS file would work well 16:08:06 <tatica> hugs guys! 16:08:13 <FranciscoD> tatica: hehe, thanks for coming :) 16:08:17 <tatica> np 16:08:18 <suchakra> FranciscoD: do you need pencil source for last mockup? 16:08:26 <suchakra> tatica: thanks for dropping by 16:08:32 <thunderbirdtr> tatica, by by 16:08:34 <FranciscoD> suchakra: I'll come to that, give me a minute to grill suchakra ;) 16:08:37 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: go 16:08:43 <FranciscoD> :P 16:09:08 <Subfusc> FranciscoD: The problem with external files are that you either have to copy them to all folders or modify links to point to someplace 16:09:38 <Subfusc> This mechanism should be developed anyways, but I don't think it will be done the next month. 16:09:52 <Subfusc> Probably the copy to all folders one will be 16:10:11 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: should we begin coding without the designer temporarily while you continue to finish the combiner? 16:10:13 <thunderbirdtr> ! 16:10:17 * FranciscoD has F17 in sights 16:10:45 <FranciscoD> thunderbirdtr: go ahead, 16:11:00 <FranciscoD> #info 21:39 <@fedbot> Fedora 17 release date is scheduled for 2012-05-08 14:00, which is in 5 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 49 minutes, and 11 seconds 16:11:12 <thunderbirdtr> FranciscoD, I don't know If you talk this part but for website general part 16:11:26 <thunderbirdtr> FranciscoD, You need also share buttons for social network 16:11:44 <thunderbirdtr> If you want you can add comment 16:11:50 <FranciscoD> thunderbirdtr: I'll update you on the entire thing later. It's not exactly a website ;) 16:12:01 <thunderbirdtr> oh 16:12:02 <thunderbirdtr> sorry 16:12:07 <thunderbirdtr> eof 16:12:15 <FranciscoD> ! 16:12:16 <FranciscoD> FranciscoD: go 16:12:45 <FranciscoD> what do you folks think of starting coding? Give me a few days to make the final mockup. lets figure out how to get this UI, and start development? 16:12:54 <FranciscoD> Anyone else desperate to make an F17 release? 16:13:11 <FranciscoD> The next release will be 7 months from now, *too* far IMO 16:13:17 <praveenkumar> ! 16:13:20 <FranciscoD> eof 16:13:21 <FranciscoD> praveenkumar: go 16:13:26 <Subfusc> ! 16:13:46 <Subfusc> #action Write Howto use combiner thing on wiki 16:13:57 <praveenkumar> FranciscoD: if we don't have complete run, atleast beta run should be done till F17. 16:14:25 <FranciscoD> ! 16:14:44 <praveenkumar> but I like a complete (may be small but stable) till F-17 :) 16:14:45 <praveenkumar> eof 16:14:50 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: go 16:15:12 <Subfusc> Sorry, Forgot what i was going to say eof 16:15:16 <FranciscoD> XD 16:15:18 <FranciscoD> ! 16:15:20 <FranciscoD> FranciscoD: go 16:15:44 <FranciscoD> praveenkumar: in this specific project, i dont think the beta and final release will have a lot of differences. 16:15:57 <Subfusc> 1 16:15:58 <Subfusc> ! 16:16:00 <FranciscoD> eof 16:16:02 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: go 16:16:18 * suchakra is afk for a while 16:16:28 <Subfusc> I agree with FranciscoD, since it is a frontend-non functional program, beta doesn't really make much sense 16:16:30 <Subfusc> eof 16:16:53 <FranciscoD> Alright. Who has free cycles to figure out the code behind this UI design? 16:17:03 <FranciscoD> come on now, a show of hands ;) 16:17:19 <praveenkumar> ! 16:17:23 <thunderbirdtr> which language ? 16:17:34 <FranciscoD> thunderbirdtr: this is HTML5 + JS + CSS3 16:17:37 <Subfusc> HTML5, CSS3 and JS 16:17:46 <FranciscoD> i thought you were busy with insight and drupal :) 16:17:48 <FranciscoD> praveenkumar: go 16:17:50 <praveenkumar> FranciscoD: you mean behind this design http://freehtml5templates.com/downloads/free/vividphoto/ right? 16:17:54 <FranciscoD> yes 16:18:04 <FranciscoD> the toned down version that we've decided on rather 16:18:05 <FranciscoD> eof 16:18:16 <thunderbirdtr> FranciscoD, I'm with you :) 16:18:17 * FranciscoD is doing the mockups 16:18:30 <FranciscoD> ah, alright. I'll decipher it 16:18:48 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD decipher code behind toned down version of http://freehtml5templates.com/downloads/free/vividphoto/ right? 16:19:01 <FranciscoD> what else do we have? 16:19:07 <FranciscoD> Anyone else got anything to discuss? 16:19:10 <FranciscoD> #topic open floor 16:19:22 <FranciscoD> thunderbirdtr: with us meaning? :P 16:19:49 * thunderbirdtr just "come on now, a show of hands ;)" show hand 16:20:00 <FranciscoD> thunderbirdtr: ah great, you can work on it too :) 16:20:13 <FranciscoD> we'll co-ordinate at the EOD on what we have? 16:20:20 <thunderbirdtr> FranciscoD, thanks... what did you think before ? 16:20:25 <FranciscoD> #topic Git master 16:20:31 <FranciscoD> thunderbirdtr: I didnt get it at all XD 16:20:40 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: i propose you become the git master? 16:20:49 <FranciscoD> since you are most well versed with git? 16:21:07 <Subfusc> you should all become well versed with git 16:21:09 <Subfusc> its awesome! 16:21:11 <Subfusc> :P 16:21:21 <FranciscoD> we all work on our branches, and ping you when something substantial is done. You review, merge to devel/master 16:21:25 <Subfusc> but yeah, I can babysit the repo 16:21:48 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: I dont want to lose any more time learning stuff. We have a big learning curve already :/ 16:21:54 <FranciscoD> #action Subfusc babysit git repo 16:22:02 <FranciscoD> #info Subfusc is the git master for fedora-tour 16:22:16 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: is the workflow I suggested alright? Or is there a better way of doing things? 16:22:33 <FranciscoD> (I dont want everyone pushing to master. I think that could get messy) 16:22:59 <Subfusc> FranciscoD: for design there I would probably have to pull specific files, since its going to be a mess if I pull everything at once 16:23:16 <Subfusc> but yeah, I don't see an easier way of doing it rignt how 16:23:17 <Subfusc> now 16:23:41 <FranciscoD> alright 16:23:55 <thunderbirdtr> FranciscoD, ! 16:23:58 <Subfusc> remember that all branches can pull all branches, so you don't have to ping me for minor changes in one branch which another branch needs 16:24:14 <thunderbirdtr> Subfusc, ++ I pass my turn 16:24:15 <FranciscoD> #info workflow: work on your own branches. do something substantial, ping Subfusc when need to merge to master/devel 16:24:30 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: that makes sense ^? 16:24:38 <Subfusc> FranciscoD: yes 16:24:38 <thunderbirdtr> FranciscoD, ++1000000000000 16:24:59 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: are you going to use just a master, or a master which has the stable release commit, and a devel for the ongoing development? 16:25:12 <FranciscoD> (your choice, but everyone should be aware) 16:25:22 <Subfusc> FranciscoD: I'm not doing development in main branch, if that is your question 16:25:24 <Subfusc> :) 16:25:44 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: yeah, so a devel branch then? :) 16:25:49 <Subfusc> Its generally not a good idea to do that 16:25:52 <Subfusc> yepp 16:26:09 <FranciscoD> #info development goes to devel branch. Main branch always stays stable 16:26:16 <FranciscoD> okay, anything else? 16:26:18 <FranciscoD> think people 16:26:20 <FranciscoD> :) 16:26:32 <FranciscoD> praveenkumar: kishan underscores|2 : alive? 16:26:34 <Subfusc> just be carefull with the term stable 16:26:43 <kishan> yep :P 16:27:00 <Subfusc> it is probably not going to be -stable-, but its not going to break your shit without announcing it first 16:27:07 <FranciscoD> Subfusc: define it as an info if you want. (For the logs) 16:27:43 <praveenkumar> FranciscoD: yes, alive :) 16:27:48 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD thunderbirdtr decipher code behind toned down version of http://freehtml5templates.com/downloads/free/vividphoto/ 16:27:59 <underscores|2> I'm alive 16:28:39 <Subfusc> FranciscoD: anything more? I really have to pee after drinking 1 liter of water during the course of this meeting 16:28:40 <Subfusc> :P 16:28:45 <FranciscoD> lol 16:28:46 <FranciscoD> alright 16:28:54 <FranciscoD> countdown to armageddon then ;) 16:28:55 <FranciscoD> 5 16:28:58 <FranciscoD> 4 16:29:00 <FranciscoD> 3 16:29:01 <FranciscoD> 2 16:29:03 <thunderbirdtr> 1 16:29:05 <FranciscoD> oh! 16:29:12 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD do the logs things 16:29:14 <FranciscoD> 0 16:29:16 <FranciscoD> #endmeeting