20:04:38 #startmeeting 20:04:38 Meeting started Fri Jun 25 20:04:38 2010 UTC. The chair is sijis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:04:38 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:04:46 #topic who is here? 20:04:53 * ardchoille is here 20:05:07 * gwerra is kinda around 20:05:25 i think today will be quick. 20:06:09 #topic fp.o redesign 20:06:18 this is the only thing in mind. 20:06:23 and there is no update on it 20:06:32 i have to reach out to mizmo and see what she needs. 20:06:47 also.. did you guys have a chance to look at the proposed f14 schedule? 20:07:09 i need to look at it much closer but at glance, it looked ok. 20:07:17 I'd like to volunteer to assist with the redesign if I'm needed 20:07:26 ardchoille: absolutely. :) 20:07:44 so, here's the overall idea on how this is going to work 20:08:00 design will have a mockup and get feedback 20:08:19 after a couple of rounds of tweaking, we'll get a 'pre final' mockup 20:08:27 and we can start from there. 20:09:03 along with this, the hope is to create a few more 'sections' that describe on how to use Fedora daily 20:09:10 and Uses of Fedora 20:09:28 and we'll need someone to put that content and, i guess, interview folks about it 20:10:33 where is the mockup currently? 20:10:44 I can help with content 20:11:11 * ardchoille uses nothing but Fedora 20:11:42 the goal is ~20-25 articles.. i think its 4 for each area 20:13:34 in either case, that content along with building would occur 20:13:50 we are shooting for a couple of week prior to the release 20:14:18 on a technology side, we are anticipating using 960.gs fluid for layout 20:14:36 i've personally never used it but i hear/read great things about it 20:14:51 the website is 960.gs 20:15:03 that's all 20:15:06 any questions? 20:15:14 where is the mockup currently? 20:15:30 i dunno. in fact, i don't think its started yet 20:15:59 it will be similar to this though: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Website_redesign_2009/Mockups/Get.fpo 20:16:22 at least the top/header and footer 20:16:44 I like the way that looks 20:17:45 Just my opinion, but I think the hills/clouds/sky looks too cartoon-ish 20:18:46 yeah, i don't think that part is included.. but its the general feel of it 20:18:53 ah 20:19:04 i wanna say, look at spins.fp.o for something 'closer'. 20:19:54 the spins page is great 20:20:18 +1 for that header 20:20:22 :) 20:21:34 #topic Open Floor 20:21:44 anything else that we should talk about? 20:22:17 its been pretty quiet around here lately. 20:22:42 should we talk about my patch? 20:22:44 that's OK, its summer. :) 20:22:46 sure. 20:23:32 I emailed a patch to this email list. This patch changes the "Join Fedora" link on http://fedoraproject.org/ from http://fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedora to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join because that is a much better looking page. 20:23:43 I was told that we can't simply add the content of wiki/Join to http://fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedora due to language translations. 20:24:18 the wiki/Join page is nice and I would like to see this content in http://fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedora 20:24:35 patch link: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/websites/2010-June/008155.html 20:24:58 ah, so it was received.. I wasn't sure 20:25:09 If there was a response, I missed it 20:26:04 I didn't quite know how to integrate the wkik/Join content into the current en/join-fedora page 20:26:10 it doens't look like there was a response. 20:26:15 *wiki/Join 20:26:38 I feel that, once someone sends in a patch, some follow up or "here's what we decided" should be emailed back to let the sender know that the patch was received. 20:26:51 ardchoille: yeah, i agree. 20:27:19 i apologize for not responding.. i thought i did 20:27:46 No worries. But, how can we get this moving? 20:28:05 aplogies for my lack of patience 20:30:40 i stepped away... 20:31:03 ardchoille: so this is my thought 20:31:17 i know that ricky has a concern about it being translatable 20:31:20 which is a very good one 20:31:26 however, the page is lackluster 20:31:26 yeah 20:31:45 i see it as 2 options: 1 - make the page more engaging 20:31:52 2 - point it to wiki/Join 20:32:13 Either one is fine , I think, as long as it is more engaging 20:32:13 3 - point to wiki/Join and fix en/join-fedora in the meantime 20:32:30 I like #3 :) 20:32:33 (i suppose that was 3 options) 20:32:47 i'm leaning that way too. 20:33:06 although, i would rather have it done sooner than later. 20:33:07 :) 20:33:12 Me too 20:33:31 Although I'm not a translator, is there any way I can help with this? 20:33:47 wit the translation? 20:33:54 yes there is. 20:34:08 i did see a message about wiki translations earlier this week 20:34:09 no, I can't translate.. I can barely speak English 20:34:30 i haven't been following it much though 20:36:19 translation process: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2010-June/007763.html 20:36:24 (for those curious folks) 20:38:03 So, is it possible to add the content of wiki/Join to en/join-fedora and have translators work on it? Or is it not as simple as that? 20:38:41 I mean the "en" in en/join-fedora would seem to point to the fact that it is a page in English 20:39:39 yeah, we can copy the content from wiki/join to fedora-join 20:41:13 ardchoille: yeah. 20:41:24 if it was a in spanish, it'll be es/fedora-join 20:41:30 right 20:41:37 if the text isn't translated, it'll just show the english text 20:41:59 My concern, though, is having all language pages having a consistent look 20:42:05 ah, ok 20:42:27 it will. it'll just display in english vs the language they selected 20:42:45 we'll talk more about trans after this meeting 20:42:50 this is what i'll do regarding your email. 20:43:04 So, my next question is how do I get the wiki/Join content into en/join-fedora ? 20:43:05 i'll respond to it with the idea of doing option #3 20:43:18 and once fedora-join is updated, we'll undo those changes. 20:43:30 ok, I think I got ahead of you there 20:43:37 no problem. 20:43:54 i think the easiest, may be to just copy the html content into fedora-join 20:44:06 anything else? otherwise, i'll close. 20:44:15 * ardchoille is done 20:44:20 #endmeeting