11:50:53 <hers> #startmeeting
11:50:54 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Mar  5 11:50:53 2010 UTC.  The chair is hers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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11:50:58 <hers> .chair liuhongdan
11:51:03 <hers> .chair tiansworld
11:52:10 <liuhongdan> kaio还没到
11:52:48 <liuhongdan> gbraad_afk在，mchua还没来
11:53:56 <hers> liuhongdan~ 他邮件里说的晚点来，再说吧。 afk 是什么意思？ mchua 也是 afk
11:54:46 <liuhongdan> afk: away from keyboard
11:55:07 <liuhongdan> 昨天kaio刚解释过的  :)
11:56:20 <tiansworld> afk, 我out了，刚知道
11:58:32 <supercyper> 开始了么？
12:00:16 <mchua> 早上好， 抱歉我来晚了
12:00:29 <liuhongdan> 可以开始了。  mchua 晚上好 :)
12:00:37 * mchua 听
12:00:42 <hers> mchua~ you are welcome. 我很想学你那样说英语，飞快！
12:01:22 <liuhongdan> 我也想学英语
12:02:05 <liuhongdan> 你们都吃饭了？我还没吃饭呢
12:02:10 <hers> #topic 首先还是介绍下自己，十分钟。这次的主题是 kaio 列在邮件里的那些，都看过了没有？
12:03:06 <hers> .fas bbbush
12:03:07 <zodbot> hers: bbbush 'Yuan Yijun' <bbbush.yuan@gmail.com>
12:03:09 <hers> .fas liuhongdan
12:03:11 <hers> .fas mchua
12:03:11 <zodbot> hers: hongdan '' <hongdanliu@gmail.com>
12:03:14 <hers> .fas nsdy
12:03:17 <zodbot> hers: mchua 'Mel Chua' <mel@redhat.com>
12:03:17 <hers> .fas supercyper
12:03:20 <zodbot> hers: nsdy 'zhangkaixuan' <shiyicanghai@yahoo.com.cn>
12:03:23 <hers> .fas tiansworld
12:03:26 <zodbot> hers: supercyper '' <supercyper@163.com>
12:03:26 <hers> .fas yshao
12:03:30 <zodbot> hers: tiantian 'Tianshixiong' <tiansworld@hotmail.com> - tiansworld '' <tiansworld@gmail.com>
12:03:33 <hers> .fas candyz
12:03:35 <zodbot> hers: yshao 'Yu Shao' <yshao@redhat.com>
12:03:38 <hers> .fas cswii
12:03:39 <zodbot> hers: candyz 'Chung-Yen Chang' <candyz0416@gmail.com>
12:03:43 <hers> .fas cswiii
12:03:43 <zodbot> hers: cswiii '' <cwelton@redhat.com>
12:03:48 <zodbot> hers: cswiii '' <cwelton@redhat.com>
12:03:51 <hers> .fas gbraad
12:03:56 <zodbot> hers: gbraad 'Gerard Braad' <me+fedora@gbraad.nl>
12:04:06 <hers> .fas yichi
12:04:08 <zodbot> hers: yichi 'Yichi Zhang' <zyichi@gmail.com>
12:04:19 <liuhongdan> 看过了
12:04:29 <hers> 有遗漏的话请自己报一下 谢谢
12:05:35 <hers> mchua 和 gbraad 是今天的主要来宾 - -! 欢迎欢迎
12:05:49 <supercyper> +1 欢迎
12:06:42 <hers> supercyper 是聊天室新人， liuhongdan 和 tiansworld 和我主持会议
12:06:51 <hers> .fas pingz
12:06:53 <zodbot> hers: pingz 'Zheng Ping' <zpsigma@gmail.com> - userpingz 'ping zi' <nano.he@yahoo.com>
12:07:11 <hers> .fas liangsuilong
12:07:12 <zodbot> hers: liangsuilong 'Liang Suilong' <liangsuilong@gmail.com>
12:07:26 <liangsuilong> 来晚了
12:07:41 <hers> 会议记录见 http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/
12:07:58 <hers> liangsuilong~ 今天 kaio 说是晚到
12:08:07 <liangsuilong> 哦...
12:08:12 <tiansworld> kaio去喝茶了
12:08:24 <supercyper> 喝茶在国内是敏感词
12:08:24 <tiansworld> 正题吧
12:08:48 <liangsuilong> supercyper kaio在枪外的...
12:09:02 <liangsuilong> hers lazyfai 也去了喝茶
12:09:55 * hers 我一直到六月都比较忙，不太会关注 Fedora，不过今天一定要凑热闹。上周就错过了。 :)
12:10:25 <hers> ok. 十分钟介绍结束。
12:10:34 <hers> #topic 吉拉德 及 Mel 有關部署更多鏡像服務器的詳程
12:10:48 <hers> gbraad mchua who first?
12:11:38 <gbraad> i have no IME on my phone :-(
12:11:51 * mchua not working on the mirror server
12:12:07 <hers> 上周的记录里 gbraad 说过了镜像的事情 http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2010-02-26/
12:12:30 * gbraad is in contact with matt and mike about mirros
12:13:18 <hers> gbraad~ 什么是 matt and mike ？
12:13:19 <gbraad> will contact some possible options this weekend
12:13:40 <liuhongdan> hers, what is IME?
12:13:48 <supercyper> IME 输入法
12:13:50 <hers> liuhongdan~ let's pm.
12:14:17 <liuhongdan> o
12:14:18 <gbraad> Matt Domsch and Mike McGrath are of Fedora infrastructure
12:15:15 <nsdy> IME in the f13????
12:15:45 <hers> nsdy~ no
12:16:54 <supercyper> 这次fedora想在中国搞什么样的镜像？
12:17:45 * liuhongdan 边吃完饭边听讲
12:18:51 <gbraad> currently there are 4 active mirrors for fedora in china
12:19:02 <zodbot> CyrusYzGTt: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
12:19:23 <gbraad> we would like to have this number increased
12:19:25 <lovenemesis> hello, guys
12:19:42 <liuhongdan> lovenemesis, hi
12:20:12 <hers> increase by how many? a big one or several?
12:21:21 <gbraad> several
12:21:38 <gbraad> mirrors in the south of china fo not provide a good connection for ppl who live in the north of china
12:21:57 <supercyper> fedora能否资助资源，在中国搞一个社区论坛呢？
12:22:12 <gbraad> this is something also other distributions have experienced while setting up their mirrors
12:23:30 <supercyper> mirrors.sohu.com >> 123.129.214.98 山东省 联通
12:23:42 <liuhongdan> supercyper, fedora直接自助我们的FZUG多好
12:24:01 <supercyper> mirrors.163.com >> 60.191.81.189 浙江省杭州市 电信
12:24:22 <lovenemesis> so, sohu in north and 163 in south?
12:24:29 <CyrusYzGTt> 一南一北刚好
12:24:29 <hers> gbraad 打字不方便，大家多些耐心
12:24:44 <supercyper> The sohu mirror locate in north china
12:25:05 <huabo> 我来啦。。
12:25:09 <hers> 一个不够。就像深圳的网络就很复杂
12:25:39 <zyichi> ^_^，huabo是我同事，天天 Fedora 人事。
12:26:00 <huabo> ：）
12:26:01 <hers> hi, huabo 正在谈 kaio 邮件里的第一个主题， gbraad 的镜像计划
12:26:11 <supercyper> 歌华这种小的isp估计很难照顾到
12:26:38 <huabo> 我收到你们谈话的邮件啦。
12:26:41 <hers> gbraad~ 通常 mirror 是由什么样的人建立的？需要多少资源？
12:27:09 <hers> gbraad~ 我们也说了一年多了，但是没有搞起来，不知道去哪儿找赞助
12:27:11 * mchua 要上学, 会读backscroll我回来
12:27:28 <supercyper> mirror应该不需要多少资源 我以前读书的时候就用实验室的机子建了校内镜像
12:27:38 * CyrusYzGTt gbraad 打字很慢，one by one
12:28:49 <gbraad> sorry, other things came in between... read back.
12:29:25 <supercyper> oss.ustc.edu.cn 教育网/ipv6双栈镜像
12:30:06 <gbraad> it might be possible to approach shlug to host a mirror
12:30:43 <gbraad> they already have the infra. they also host a ubuntu mirror
12:31:57 <hers> eventually who will pay for the hardware and network connection?
12:32:55 <gbraad> those are outisde the scope of us
12:33:01 <supercyper> I think there no to set a mirror in shanghai, you see shanghai is not for from hangzhou
12:33:06 <gbraad> a mirror does it out of own willing
12:34:38 <gbraad> if fedora would host their own mirror, we need a budget. for this a lot more is needed.
12:35:14 <hers> ok. 也就是说你打算说服一些人来建立 mirror 是吗？
12:35:35 <supercyper> The 163 mirror locate in china-net IDC which has a very fast internet connecion speed.
12:35:59 <hers> SHLUG 可能是第一个，然后下一个，再下一个.. gbraad？
12:36:06 <CyrusYzGTt> only hight 100KB/S
12:36:27 <lovenemesis> sorry, i might not get the point. do you mean that we do not need to worry about the sponsor of the mirror?
12:36:56 <supercyper> 163 mirror 是100M的 china-net
12:37:05 <supercyper> 电信核心IDC 机房
12:37:10 <gbraad> funding for partner mirrors is outside the scope of our talks
12:37:37 <gbraad> shlug is my first approach... maybe after this srt.cn
12:38:31 <supercyper> 骨头源啊
12:38:48 <lovenemesis> ok, please go on
12:39:08 <supercyper> src.cn also locate in hangzhou
12:41:12 <hers> gbraad~ 可能需要多少时间说服他们建立 Fedora 源，我们这里的人能帮上什么忙？
12:41:33 <hers> gbraad~ 你肯定有这种经验，讲讲
12:42:29 <lovenemesis> yes, what can we help?
12:43:34 <gbraad> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring about the process
12:43:50 <gbraad> connection almost broke
12:44:13 <gbraad> people who wanna help, please get in touch with me. so we can coordinate it
12:44:23 <gbraad> gbraad@fedoraproject.org
12:44:42 <gbraad> i dont think it is a good idea if we all approach possible mirrors
12:45:28 <lovenemesis> so which one should we start from ?
12:45:53 <hers> gbraad~ 为什么说 a good idea if we all approach possible
12:46:02 <hers> ^ not a
12:46:21 <hers> gbraad~ mirrors
12:46:36 <gbraad> first start with shlug. who will assist me?
12:47:07 <lovenemesis> is there someone who lives in shanghai?
12:49:30 <hers> lonestar is a member of SHLUG, is he?
12:49:46 <gbraad> i cant stay much longer.. sorry...
12:50:17 <gbraad> he is... he is an option for me. but lonestar is busy at the moment
12:51:14 <hers> fine. thank you.
12:52:20 <hers> 换下一个 topic 吗？
12:53:34 <hers> 哦，topic 的第二项就包含了 gbraad 说的这个想法，联系地区 LUG 原来有 mirror 的事情
12:53:59 <supercyper> 可以联系下http://mirror.lupaworld.com/
12:54:04 <lovenemesis> well, if needed, i can publish a call for local lug on linuxtoy
12:54:09 <supercyper> 这个镜像提供了8～10的 fedora
12:54:18 <supercyper> 可以让他们更新
12:54:32 <supercyper> http://mirror.lupaworld.com/fedora/linux/releases/
12:54:45 <gbraad> lovenemesis: nice idea. maybe we will discuss this later this weekend. ok?
12:55:03 <gbraad> have to leave now.
12:55:23 <lovenemesis> no problem, catch you later
12:55:36 <hers> topic 第三项是转移邮件列表，从 fedora-cn@googlegroups 到某个 fedoraproject 的列表。后面三个都是与翻译相关的，我不了解了。大家还有别的 topic 没有？
12:55:46 <gbraad_afk> 88
12:55:54 <CyrusYzGTt> 88]
12:55:56 <hers> #topic 其他主题 thanks
12:57:08 <supercyper> 转移邮件列表的话就不能把邮件列表当论坛用了
12:57:46 <supercyper> fedoraproject的列表只有archive
13:08:54 <liuhongdan> 这就没了？
13:09:06 <lovenemesis> 不会吧？
13:09:19 <lovenemesis> 这个，新的邮件列表是啥呢？
13:09:40 <liuhongdan> gbraad_afk都没怎么说多少内容
13:10:19 <liuhongdan> 两个都用上吧， google groups继续当作论坛用。正式的这些讨论用fp的
13:10:41 <supercyper> 正式的-devel足够了
13:11:46 <liangsuilong> 错过了很多内容了
13:11:50 <liangsuilong> 该死的内存条
13:12:12 <supercyper> 没有啥内容
13:12:18 <supercyper> 啥都没错过哈哈
13:12:23 <liangsuilong> 害得我啥也没有看到
13:12:55 <liangsuilong> supercyper 等zinnia进入了源，我加你的名字上去把
13:13:09 <supercyper> 别把我加上
13:13:17 <liangsuilong> 为啥？？
13:13:21 <supercyper> 把那个ibus-handwrite的作者加上
13:13:41 <liangsuilong> 作者没有时间高...
13:13:44 <liangsuilong> 搞
13:13:46 <supercyper> 说错了
13:13:53 <liangsuilong> phuang？
13:13:56 <supercyper> 是ibus－handwirter的打包者
13:14:34 <liangsuilong> 现在是谁打包阿
13:14:49 <supercyper> 你看看你的bugzilla啊
13:14:55 <supercyper> 有人depends了
13:15:28 <liangsuilong> OK...
13:15:38 <liangsuilong> zinnia还有几个问题...
13:15:51 <liangsuilong> 等下我发到邮件列表把
13:16:04 <liangsuilong> %check 过不了
13:16:39 <supercyper> 是哪一部分不行？
13:16:51 <liangsuilong> perl和python都不行
13:16:52 <supercyper> 主包还是perl还是python
13:17:08 <liangsuilong> setup.py里面就没有test的选项
13:17:22 <liangsuilong> perl的话应该找不全那些库
13:17:26 <supercyper> 嗯 可能是那个test.py
13:17:37 <liangsuilong> 冲凉先了
13:27:12 <hers_> #endmeeting
13:27:32 <hers_> #endmeeting
13:27:55 <hers_> liuhongdan~ 结束一下
13:28:03 <liuhongdan> #endmeeting
13:28:12 <hers_> 果然是得多几个 chair 保险
13:28:33 <liuhongdan> hers, 没反应啊
13:28:41 <zodbot> liuhongdan: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
13:28:43 <hers> 是我 nick 不对
13:28:47 <hers> #endmeeting