13:34:28 <hers> #startmeeting
13:34:28 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Aug 13 13:34:28 2010 UTC.  The chair is hers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:35:43 <hers> 這些人！怎麼能不開 log 呢
13:36:19 <hellwolf-dell> hers, hi
13:46:02 <kaio> 都沒有 topic
13:49:20 <hers> topic 可以沒有，log 不可以不開。不然想參加活動的人會覺得活動中斷了，因此不再嘗試。
14:10:58 <mchua> gbraad, kaio: let me post my China to-do list up somewhere so you can help me see if there's something I've forgotten, actually.
14:11:56 <supercyper> 没人气
14:12:05 <kaio> supercyper: 請幫忙
14:12:16 <kaio> mchua: etherpad?
14:12:53 <kaio> lazyfai: hi
14:13:05 <mchua> kaio: Yep, putting it up there now.
14:13:36 <kaio> cool
14:15:04 <mchua> kaio, gbraad: http://openetherpad.org/fedora-zh
14:15:20 <mchua> I know things like the fc.o request aren't on that list, so please put it up there somewhere.
14:15:59 <supercyper> 啥忙？
14:16:11 <kaio> supercyper: 推人氣
14:16:23 <kaio> mchua: thx will do
14:36:45 <mchua> kaio: Regarding being an Ambassador mentor - one thing that came up in the FAmSCo meeting where kital brought this up is that it would be good for Ambassador applicants to participate in another Fedora team (packaging, QA, docs, marketing, design, infrastructure, etc) first, to learn more about Fedora.
14:37:28 <kaio> mchua: sure I am squeezing myself in design team. :P
14:39:50 <kital> kaio mchua remember that a Mentor has to propose the new Mentors Candidate to FAmSCo and FAmSCo will vote on the new Mentor
14:40:21 <gbraad> kital I also thought so, so hers could propose
14:40:27 <kital> so it would be good that the person is visible over a period of time also to the other famsco members
14:40:37 <gbraad> mchua: i would like to participate in the infrastructure
14:41:10 <kital> because of what i learned about chinese habits - to get not voted could turn into a desaster - right =
14:41:14 <kital> ?
14:41:23 <gbraad> mchua: hope we could also do better at the marketing, soince the current time schedule is hard for me. but maybe we can do something tailored towards apac
14:43:02 <gbraad> mchua: you did get to speak with rhe?
14:43:28 <kital> and mchua i will go with your proposal because you know it first hand from your visits
14:43:53 <gbraad> I know his an engineer in yshao's team, but did not have time to to get in touch with him on short notice. I got in touch with some other interesting people for you. will let you know soon
14:45:58 <yshao> gbraad, rhe is a very lovely girl
14:45:58 <gbraad> mchua: might be a good idea to get in touch with liam, rhe and mingtao forBeijing plans
14:46:25 <yshao> rhe is probably in better position
14:46:50 <gbraad> yshao: really? wow... still unfamilaiar yo the concept of having women in IT. only met three in my work (in Europe)
14:47:42 <gbraad> yshaO: what do you mean in better position?
14:48:15 <mchua> gbraad: Yes, I did get to meet rhe and lili and Newgle in the Beijing engineering office.
14:48:27 <mchua> gbraad: What were you thinking about re: marketing geared towards apac?
14:48:40 <mchua> It's something that I'd love to see more people in the region pick up and drive, for sure.
14:48:41 <gbraad> mchua: great. the only people I got to talk to were in Prosper Center
14:49:17 * mchua nods
14:49:25 <mchua> I only met Maggie Li in Prosper
14:49:26 <gbraad> mchua: it ssems malaysia has similar issue with the community, so I want to see what I can do with kagesenshi
14:49:31 * mchua nods
14:49:40 <mchua> KageSenshi was trying to get a POSSE going in Malaysia.
14:49:49 <mchua> I'm not yet sure how that's going to work out.
14:49:59 <mchua> Harish also has strong ties there and may be worth pinging.
14:50:00 <gbraad> mchua: maybe we find similar options for marketing. at least more related
14:50:28 <gbraad> mchua: I hope to get in touch with harish soon. hope by phone or IRL
14:51:53 <gbraad> mchua: I am sure we can work together on a lot of things. (he makes me feel like a Asian j. Wildeboer)
14:56:54 <yshao> gbraad, i mean the 3 names you mentioned, rhe is in better position for to talk to
14:58:19 <gbraad> yshao mchua: I agree, also because rhe is in a position which could aid with getting the 'low hanging fruits' covered as a FAD activity?
14:58:41 <gbraad> yshao mchua: or as part to get some easy contribution to fedora going
15:02:57 <mchua> gbraad: being an asian jwildeboer is not a bad thing! :)
15:03:11 <mchua> yshao: Actually, rhe and I talked about exactly that while I was in Beijing.
15:03:23 <mchua> Doing some sort of QA FAD, since that's what her team does.
15:04:03 <gbraad> mchua: actually meant as a compliment. Had a good time with Jan in Europe... one of the guys I miss. hope to catch him at FOSDEM again next year
15:04:46 <gbraad> mchua: sounds like 'an easy' thing to arrange.
15:05:20 <mchua> gbraad: I hope so - it's always a challenge to bootstrap up a (relatively) new community.
15:05:46 <yshao> mchua, ok
15:06:40 <gbraad> mchua: as you know, some contacts might be wiling to help
15:06:43 <mchua> yshao: What do you want to see happening in the Fedora-zh community?
15:06:45 <mchua> gbraad: Indeed!
15:07:11 <mchua> gbraad: I know work is probably crazy for you right now, but if you have a moment I'd like to make sure you have everything you need to start planning for a MIPS FAD.
15:07:45 <gbraad> mchua: another idea is to get some people involved for fedora's FEL with the help of Qi Hardware. I will get you in touch with Wolfgang if you want... but it is not really related to fedorazh
15:08:12 <gbraad> mchua: this weekend we can discuss this
15:09:49 <mchua> gbraad: Ok, weekend is better? Do you want to set a time, or just catch each other online?
15:10:10 <gbraad> mchua: excluding today that is... really did too much to make the people 'work' at my employer. I do the training now instead of them! now 25 people... next week 27 new will arrive! :-s
15:11:12 <gbraad> mchua: catch online... else I will sync up with email if needed. will also ask if some 'outsiders' are willing to participate. as you know, Chinese interest can be... eh well, unpredictable
15:11:29 <mchua> gbraad: Yep. Ok, just ping me whenever I'm not afk.
15:11:37 <mchua> I'll try to be on during at least some of the China day.
15:11:39 <gbraad> mchua: hope someone like r0bertz would join a MIPS FAD
15:12:13 <gbraad> mchua: will invest in 3G again... as it seems to become more important
15:12:32 <gbraad> mchua: and maybe search for another job already
15:16:15 <gbraad> lazyfai: tomorrow will finally sync the files. was swamped with work these days! sorry about that.
15:16:57 <hers> #chair gbraad
15:16:57 <zodbot> Current chairs: gbraad hers
15:17:00 <hers> #chair mchua
15:17:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: gbraad hers mchua
15:18:57 * mchua lurking
15:23:00 * MengXingHun 春天在哪里....春天在哪里....
15:45:37 <hers> 剛才那麼熱鬧，這一陣子又都忙了
15:47:32 <hers> are you planning for SFD?
15:58:50 <hers> #endmeeting