22:35:04 <aeperezt> #startmeeting
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22:35:16 <aeperezt> #meetingname Fedora Ambassadors Latam
22:35:16 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_ambassadors_latam'
22:35:31 <aeperezt> #topic rollcal
22:35:51 <Wolnei> .fas wolnei
22:35:52 <zodbot> Wolnei: charged '' <e+charged@wolnei.com.br> - wolnei 'Wolnei Cândido Tomazelli Junior' <e@wolnei.com.br>
22:36:21 <itamarjp> .fas itamarjp
22:36:22 <zodbot> itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
22:36:25 * itamarjp Brazil
22:36:26 <aeperezt> #chair echevemaster Wolnei itamarjp
22:36:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: Wolnei aeperezt echevemaster itamarjp
22:36:36 <aeperezt> .fas aeperezt
22:36:37 <zodbot> aeperezt: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' <alejandro.perez.torres@gmail.com>
22:36:42 * aeperezt Panama
22:36:44 <geek_cl> .fas lletelier
22:36:45 <zodbot> geek_cl: lletelier 'Larry Letelier' <geek@xofica.cl>
22:36:47 <geek_cl> Chile
22:38:03 <aeperezt> #info latam agenda https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/report/9
22:38:08 <viperboy001> .fas williamjmorenor
22:38:09 <zodbot> viperboy001: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com>
22:38:14 <viperboy001> nicaragua
22:38:39 <echevm> .fas echevemaster
22:38:39 <zodbot> echevm: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com>
22:38:45 * echevm Venezuela
22:39:22 <aeperezt> solo para no perder la costumbre
22:39:35 <aeperezt> #topic ticket 121 dominios latam
22:39:53 <aeperezt> alguna información sobre ese teama
22:40:10 <aeperezt> *tema
22:40:20 <viperboy001> el sitio de Fedora Nicaragua esta bien
22:40:34 <viperboy001> http://fedora.org.ni/
22:40:45 <viperboy001> esta alojado con un proveedor local
22:40:58 <viperboy001> y tenemos planes de "darle un poco de amor"
22:41:02 <echevm> La idea es que todos los sitios estén bien
22:41:19 <viperboy001> sip :)
22:41:38 <aeperezt> viperboy001, si gracias los sitios algoados dentro de estos dominios estan mas con suerte no son todos
22:42:01 <echevm> En realidad dudo mucho que tengamos de vuelta los dominios
22:42:45 <aeperezt> yo igual, se que estan secuestrados pero espero que la persona se de cuenta de las cosas
22:43:22 <echevm> aeperezt porque no hacer un post sobre esto de manera pública
22:43:22 <viperboy001> secuestrados?????????
22:43:23 <aeperezt> igual esperamos que la propuesta de fedoracommunity.org funcione para evitar estos problemas en el futuro.
22:43:34 <echevm> Dudo mucho que esa persona lea estos logs
22:43:47 <aeperezt> echevemaster, ya Sergio lo hizo y causo una reaccion de la persona
22:44:01 <itamarjp> aeperezt, Can we fix ticket 121 or make it go away ?
22:44:30 <echevm> Ojalá aeperezt mejor esperamos fedora community
22:44:57 <echevm> Y seguimos adelante con tu idea de levantar los sitios en fedora-latam
22:45:00 <aeperezt> yo estoy esperando a que definamos que ahcer
22:45:30 <echevm> Ya wolnei monto el tema ayer
22:45:40 <itamarjp> aeperezt, its time to move one level up, if its not possible we should close the ticket and stop talking about
22:45:41 <echevm> Yo estoy configurando el multisite
22:45:50 <echevm> Y tatica haciendo el diseño
22:45:55 <aeperezt> *hacer pero cro que igual porque se esta desinformando con esos dominios en nombre de fedora pienso que igual hay que pasarlo a legal
22:46:28 <itamarjp> aeperezt, can you do it for us ?
22:46:59 <echevm> aeperezt si se monta una pagina de redireccion desde proyectofedora a fedora-latam?
22:47:32 <echevm> Obviamente legal tardará mucho en determinar una decisión
22:47:32 * geek_cl proyectofedora.cl funciona normalmente Chile
22:48:21 <itamarjp> geek_cl, funciona when you don't forgot to renew the domain
22:48:39 <echevm> Eso es cierto itamarjp
22:48:43 <echevm> :)
22:48:47 <geek_cl> renew ?
22:48:54 <geek_cl> why renew ?
22:49:25 <aeperezt> echevemaster, eso pienso yo
22:49:34 <echevm> geek_cl proyectofedora estuvo offline por no pagar el dominio
22:49:49 <echevm> Y así fue un mes
22:49:56 <geek_cl> ehhh no
22:50:01 <geek_cl> nosotros mismos lo pagamos
22:50:07 <geek_cl> con esfuerzos de la comunidad local
22:50:12 <geek_cl> en fin
22:50:15 <geek_cl> al menos funciona
22:50:33 <echevm> geek_cl no chile, el principal
22:50:49 <geek_cl> y el principal para ti es ?
22:51:53 <echevm> proyectofedora
22:52:06 <echevm> En fin hay que redirigir estos dominios a la nueva infra
22:52:39 <geek_cl> proyectofedora.what ?
22:52:53 <echevm> Mientras sale fedoracommunity
22:53:25 <echevm> org
22:53:45 <JuanCarlosLin_> Hi all!
22:54:22 <aeperezt> JuanCarlosLin_, hello
22:54:32 <echevm> Hi Juan
22:55:06 <aeperezt> #topic ticket 130 fad Managua
22:55:27 <aeperezt> Neville no esta sabes algo de esto viperboy001
22:56:03 <JuanCarlosLin_> aeperezt, es posible adicionar un tema para discutir?
22:56:24 <aeperezt> JuanCarlosLin_, al final de la reunion en openfloor
22:57:50 <aeperezt> nadie sabe nada de ese tema moviendonos al siguente
22:58:03 <aeperezt> #ticket 147
22:58:15 <aeperezt> alexlov esta ?
22:58:36 <echevm> No
22:58:40 <aeperezt> tampoco no sabemos si esto va o no va si ya tiene como recibir fondos
22:58:41 <echevm> No está
22:58:49 <aeperezt> el siguiente
22:59:24 <aeperezt> #ticket 148  materia promocional
22:59:36 <viperboy001> soory
22:59:47 <aeperezt> Ramilton se excuso conmigo porque tuvo que ir al hospital
22:59:49 <viperboy001> esta atiendo algo del trabajo
22:59:54 <viperboy001> no hemos tenido respuesta
23:00:05 <viperboy001> de rbergeron
23:00:09 <aeperezt> asi que me parece que debemos ver este ticket
23:00:29 <viperboy001> lo ultimo que se dijo es pasemos el FAD a Noviembre
23:00:33 <aeperezt> he is requestin 55 dls for Banner
23:00:44 <aeperezt> so I think price is ok
23:00:58 <aeperezt> itamarjp, you have something on this
23:01:12 <itamarjp> about ?
23:01:28 <aeperezt> #topic ticket 148
23:01:47 <aeperezt> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/148
23:01:57 <aeperezt> itamarjp, price is ok right
23:02:17 <itamarjp> aeperezt, yeah, the price looks good
23:02:22 <aeperezt> ok
23:02:52 <aeperezt> please vote on it, he require them for the events and he could use it on future events
23:03:24 <echevm> +1 price is good
23:03:45 <Wolnei> +1
23:03:51 <itamarjp> +1 for ticket 148 ( I think we should take a look in artwork for these banners )
23:04:30 <aeperezt> itamarjp, ok but that is another matter maybe we need to review them with design team
23:04:35 <JuanCarlosLin_> +1 is good
23:04:54 <aeperezt> viperboy001, ?
23:04:59 <JuanCarlosLin_> maybe we can have a standar banner
23:05:20 <echevm> We have a standard banner Afaik
23:06:41 <aeperezt> +1
23:06:56 <aeperezt> #agreed ticket 148
23:07:09 <aeperezt> I was missing ticket 145 from last meeting
23:07:34 <aeperezt> #topic ticket 145
23:07:43 <aeperezt> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/145
23:08:02 <aeperezt> firemanxbr, are you here
23:08:25 <JuanCarlosLin_> I am neer to Foz do Iguazu, 20k from Latinoware
23:08:35 <aeperezt> My comments on this ticket
23:08:52 <JuanCarlosLin_> And the last time I organized this event in 2006 we distributed 10.000 copies of Fedora
23:09:22 <aeperezt> for Latinoware there was no responsable when we did budget
23:09:23 <JuanCarlosLin_> but for the last 3 events, fedora stands remained silence
23:09:56 <aeperezt> I added 1000 dls with out knowing if we needed as the year before no one asked for sponsorship
23:09:57 <JuanCarlosLin_> must do something.
23:10:47 <JuanCarlosLin_> Can I approuch the organization to have a better proposal and the discuss this ticket?, I think we have to do something better than only attend
23:11:18 <JuanCarlosLin_> last year have 4000+ atendees
23:11:49 <itamarjp> aeperezt, about 145, I think we should postpone it and wait for ramilton and other persons to be present.
23:11:50 <JuanCarlosLin_> Also need to show Fedora as platform to new guys...
23:12:18 <aeperezt> The actual budget was asigned to hostal and  	mribeirodantas ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/149 and https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/142
23:12:55 <aeperezt> there is no budget left to sponsor firemanxbr at this point
23:13:29 <aeperezt> I need to finish accounting with Neville to see if we can bring budget from another quater to used it at latinoware
23:13:47 <JuanCarlosLin_> That will be nice,
23:13:49 <aeperezt> so it is not a deny at this point and I think we have time
23:14:09 <aeperezt> when is latinoware
23:14:17 <itamarjp> aeperezt, who are sponsored for latinoware ?
23:14:25 <JuanCarlosLin_> 16-18 / oct
23:14:44 <aeperezt> only  mribeirodantas he is speaker so we prioritise him
23:14:55 <aeperezt> there are other tickets rewarding latinoware
23:15:28 <aeperezt> about hosting so we need to check if we have space we have separated 8 hosting space so far
23:15:55 <aeperezt> then is also https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/151
23:16:10 <aeperezt> from argentina who want to go to Latinoware
23:16:18 <aeperezt> and need sponsorship
23:16:44 <aeperezt> as always I want everyone to go represent Fedora but budget is limitated
23:16:55 <aeperezt> so we need to work on it a see
23:17:05 <itamarjp> aeperezt, I think some people will attend latinoware sponsored by them
23:17:12 <JuanCarlosLin_> I can go, from Paraguay
23:17:29 <echevm> I will going to latinoware
23:17:30 <JuanCarlosLin_> no need sponsorship, live at 20km from event local
23:17:49 <itamarjp> echevm, they bought your ticket ?
23:18:08 <echevm> Yes
23:18:20 <aeperezt> itamarjp, can you talk to ramito to check how are space on the hosting to see how we can reserve it for all tickets
23:18:29 <aeperezt> we need to start counting heads on that
23:18:53 <itamarjp> aeperezt, ok, we should postpone all tickets related to latinoware for next week
23:19:03 <aeperezt> itamarjp, right
23:19:07 <JuanCarlosLin_> YEs, thaT A GOOD IDEA
23:19:20 <aeperezt> will try to see if we had budget for next week
23:19:25 <JuanCarlosLin_> and be sure to do a good impact for Fedora
23:19:39 <aeperezt> moving on ticket
23:19:50 <JuanCarlosLin_> Last year, our stand Fedora remains in silence during whole event
23:19:50 <aeperezt> #topic 150 Latam meeting quorum
23:20:32 <aeperezt> mribeirodantas open this ticket
23:20:48 <aeperezt> basically seems like he is not clear the rules to vote
23:21:06 <aeperezt> on tickets and the quorum rules for latam meeting
23:21:29 <aeperezt> Basically there are no quorum to have the meeting but
23:21:35 <aeperezt> there is quorum rule to approve budget
23:21:50 <itamarjp> aeperezt, should we create a wiki page about it ?
23:22:02 <JuanCarlosLin_> +1
23:22:23 <aeperezt> the rules were added when budged and approvement was passed to local communities
23:22:41 <aeperezt> itamarjp, that page exits and it is clear and in 3 languages https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Reimbursement#Limits_per_trac_ticket
23:22:43 <echevm> It is right
23:22:44 <aeperezt> #linkhttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Reimbursement#Limits_per_trac_ticket
23:23:15 <aeperezt> it is clear it mention who can approve and what are the limits
23:23:28 <echevm> Recomiendo hacer una recordatorio en estos casos...
23:23:39 <aeperezt> every ambassador should read this before asking for sponsorship of any kind
23:24:41 * aeperezt Been a famsco member allow me to asign budged if the amount is less than 500 dls but I choose not to do so
23:25:01 <aeperezt> as I want things to be transparent and clear
23:25:11 <aeperezt> so everything has to come to the meeting
23:25:48 <itamarjp> aeperezt, I think its very clear for me.
23:26:01 <echevm> And for me
23:26:06 <aeperezt> is any of you not clear to what is on that page do we need to change the frasing so it is clear
23:26:27 <JuanCarlosLin_> only do not mention about quorom of this meeting
23:26:42 <aeperezt> there is no quorum for a meeting
23:26:48 <JuanCarlosLin_> this meeting need a qourum rule?
23:27:52 <aeperezt> JuanCarlosLin_, latam meetings
23:27:53 <JuanCarlosLin_> I think that being present aeperezt is enougth
23:27:58 <aeperezt> follow famsco rules
23:28:28 <aeperezt> there is not need to have a quorum to have the meeting
23:28:51 <JuanCarlosLin_> agree, be present a leader, co co-leader is ok
23:29:07 <aeperezt> but quorum is require when desition needs to be meeting
23:29:16 <aeperezt> *needed
23:29:49 <tatica> o/
23:31:04 <aeperezt> the idea is to that meeting has to be done so it on logs
23:31:14 <aeperezt> event if one person is there
23:31:37 <JuanCarlosLin_> +1
23:31:53 * tatica wonders if meeting already started
23:32:09 <aeperezt> ok that is it
23:32:12 <aeperezt> then
23:32:18 <aeperezt> #topic open floor
23:33:07 <aeperezt> JuanCarlosLin_, please go ahead
23:33:36 <JuanCarlosLin_> Well, I asked you a new topic but was Latinoware, can I extend on it?
23:33:45 <aeperezt> ok
23:34:29 <JuanCarlosLin_> My Idea is to distribute about 3000 copis of Fedora, on the Latinoware, and also ask ambassador to speack about 2-3 potential items of Fedora
23:34:45 <JuanCarlosLin_> So we can get back our GLORY on the event
23:35:21 <JuanCarlosLin_> We need to tell users that we are a good option
23:35:41 <JuanCarlosLin_> this year one of the focus is security and we have a security spein that is good
23:35:50 <JuanCarlosLin_> #spin
23:36:31 <JuanCarlosLin_> So I will like to ask amabssador to be organized, not only attend, but, be prepared, with good speach about Fedora
23:36:46 <JuanCarlosLin_> and with that cause a good impact
23:37:14 <JuanCarlosLin_> that was a topic will like to add, no only tickets per person, a event ticket
23:38:19 <aeperezt> ok
23:38:23 <aeperezt> thanks
23:39:40 <aeperezt> JuanCarlosLin_, please talk to itamarjp, Ramilton and mribeirodantas they are working on the fedora present at latinware
23:40:01 <aeperezt> thanks for you feedbacks
23:40:50 <aeperezt> any other topic
23:41:14 <tatica> !
23:42:49 <aeperezt> go ahead tatica
23:42:55 <tatica> I hope that this meeting also talk about the impressive work that Wolnei or wolnei2 put into fedora-latam.org / I just want to mention that so it's on the logs and he deserve the right credits :) eof.
23:43:26 <wolnei2> Thanks
23:43:45 <aeperezt> great
23:43:46 <tatica> :)
23:43:49 <aeperezt> anything else
23:44:41 <aeperezt> if nothing else ready to close the meeting
23:45:04 <aeperezt> thanks everyone see you next meeting
23:45:10 <aeperezt> #endmeeting