22:31:12 #startmeeting 22:31:12 Meeting started Wed Oct 23 22:31:12 2013 UTC. The chair is aeperezt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:31:12 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:31:31 #meetingname Fedora Ambassadors Latam 22:31:31 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_ambassadors_latam' 22:31:35 .fas mribeirodantas 22:31:35 mribeirodantas: mribeirodantas 'Marcel Ribeiro Dantas' 22:31:36 #topic rolcall 22:31:37 * mribeirodantas Brazil 22:31:43 las personas en latinoware me llamavan "echevemaster", pero cuando yo hablava he dicen "que pasa con su voz?" 22:31:43 .fas echevemaster 22:31:44 .fas aeperezt 22:31:44 echevemaster_: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' 22:31:47 aeperezt: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' 22:31:52 .faz lmvaz 22:31:54 * aeperezt Panamá 22:31:58 Lol lvaz 22:31:59 .fas kdetony 22:32:00 kde_tony: kdetony 'Anthony Mogrovejo' 22:32:00 .fas wolnei 22:32:04 wolnei: wolnei '' - charged '' 22:32:07 * echevemaster_ Venezuela 22:32:14 * kde_tony Perú 22:32:16 * lvaz Brazil 22:32:22 Brazil 22:32:26 .fas lmvaz 22:32:27 lvaz: lmvaz 'Leonardo Menezes Vaz' - leonardovaz 'Leonardo Vaz' 22:32:34 typo++ 22:32:35 .fas xhaksx 22:32:36 HakS: xhaksx '' 22:32:45 .fas jcampos 22:32:46 jonascampos: jcampos 'Jonathan Campos' 22:32:47 sorry 22:32:50 .fas asoliard 22:32:51 asoliard: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' 22:32:52 .fas lin 22:32:54 JuanCarlosLin: jialin1981 'patrick qin' - pklingem 'Patrick Klingemann' - qureshi '' - rjpoulin 'Rick Poulin' - chanshaw 'Colin Hanshaw' - gustavofranca 'gustavo andrade franca' - milindbhosle98 'milind bhosle' - wellington 'Wellington de Carvalho (50 more messages) 22:33:02 ** 22:33:04 Argentina 22:33:05 ** 22:33:28 .fas Bernardoha 22:33:29 bernardoha: bernardoha 'Bernardo C. Hermitaño Atencio' 22:33:40 Lin, who are you of these 50 :) 22:33:58 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/report/9 22:34:10 Agenda del día en https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/report/9 22:34:30 .fas kusterjr 22:34:31 kusterjr: kusterjr 'Geraldo Antonio Kuster Junior' 22:34:33 ja ja is lin@unisoft.com.py 22:34:39 en realidad creo que solo hay un ticket que ver 22:35:03 Btw Lin is an paraguai ambassador, we have to give to him a welcome 22:35:11 #topic announcements 22:35:11 .fas tonet666p 22:35:11 TonetJallo: tonet666p 'Tonet Pascualet Jallo Colquehuanca' 22:35:17 warm welcoming to you, JuanCarlosLin :) 22:35:19 .fas apahim 22:35:20 apahim: apahim 'Amador Pahim' 22:35:20 .fas ramilton 22:35:22 .fas lin 22:35:22 ramilton: ramilton 'Ramilton Costa Gomes Júnior' 22:35:24 Welcome Lin 22:35:26 JuanCarlosLin: jialin1981 'patrick qin' - pklingem 'Patrick Klingemann' - qureshi '' - rjpoulin 'Rick Poulin' - chanshaw 'Colin Hanshaw' - gustavofranca 'gustavo andrade franca' - milindbhosle98 'milind bhosle' - wellington 'Wellington de Carvalho (50 more messages) 22:35:31 Juan was such extremely helpful for us during Latinoware. 22:35:34 thnaks, guys, is a pleasure 22:35:40 Les recuerdo a todos que hay que comenzar a elaborar los presupuestos con miras al 2015 22:35:44 s/such// 22:35:54 I know that you are a older ambassador but welcome anyway 22:36:08 aeperezt +1 22:36:19 alguien tiene algún otro anuncio que hacer? 22:36:25 ok. aeperezt +1 22:36:55 o/ 22:37:02 Si, aeperezt dónde está la página del wiki para agregarlos 22:37:05 ? 22:37:33 * kde_tony se perdió 22:37:38 echevemaster, we have to add a new one but we need each country to start working on it 22:37:56 Understood aeperezt 22:38:04 aeperezt: For the ones who aren't aware of it, you're talking about quotes and proposals for FUDCon 2014, right? 22:38:38 mribeirodantas: people read email 22:38:47 lvaz: I do too 22:38:48 but I'm not sure 22:38:53 No mribeirodantas, that is when the bid is ready 22:38:58 Any English speaker might have noticed the "right?" at the end of my statement 22:39:00 mribeirodantas, no I'm talking about Latam general budget for fiscal year 2015 22:39:01 :) 22:39:09 aeperezt: Oh, great :) 22:39:11 How can one do that? 22:39:22 :D 22:39:47 I will add a new buget draft page so we start working on that 22:39:48 Fill all the events of your location in your userspace wiki 22:39:54 aeperezt: aw, I see. 22:39:59 echevemaster_: hmmm 22:40:06 Ok, got it :) 22:40:44 mribeirodantas, the idea is that ambassador for each country look inside their country and check what events they want to support, how much money they will need for that, who will own the event 22:41:02 Argentina contributors are planning a FAD, to organize and evaluate FUDCon posibilities... 22:41:05 , event owners will help on deciding who will be sponsor 22:41:20 to travel if he needs to 22:41:33 aeperezt: Great. You will create a draft page and we should fill it with data, then? 22:41:33 hello 22:41:37 Or like echevemaster_ said, in my userspace? 22:41:43 the main idea is have page like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Budget#Fiscal_Year_2014 22:41:45 hello 22:42:03 with an idea of how much we need for the next year 22:42:10 Ok 22:42:21 so basically is a wish list 22:42:29 Ok. 22:42:39 Yeah, mribeirodantas, do a draft and then fill the general wiki 22:42:44 Great. 22:43:19 ramilton: you probably want to be in charge of Latinoware. Right? 22:43:20 hola a todos 22:43:21 you can based the draft on what we spend this year, but you sould also add other events that may need to be cover 22:43:41 mribeirodantas, but do that later 22:43:43 e essa pagina https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events?rd=FedoraEvents - aeperezt 22:43:56 Hey I'm confused now aeperezt 2014 or 2015 22:44:02 ramilton, legal 22:44:12 sim mribeirodantas 22:44:15 Yulys who are you 22:44:15 ramilton: Não. 22:44:17 echevemaster, +1 22:44:19 Fas please 22:44:21 echevemaster, will be for fiscal year 2015 based on Red Hat fiscal years 22:44:38 Essa página são os eventos que o Fedora irá, ramilton. O que estamos discutindo agora, nas palavras do aeperezt, é uma "wish list" 22:44:39 Ok aeperezt thanks for the clarification 22:44:47 Uma lista do que *gostaríamos* de ir, mas ainda não sabemos se terá dinheiro. 22:44:51 .fas 22:44:52 cevillacorta__: (fas ) -- Search the Fedora Account System usernames, full names, and email addresses for a match. 22:44:58 Is a wishlist for budget 22:45:03 ok mribeirodantas 22:45:07 ok 22:45:08 entendi 22:45:15 ramilton: Você gostaria de ficar responsável pelo Latinoware? 22:45:16 lets move on 22:45:21 :o 22:45:30 #topic ticket 160 22:45:32 sim mribeirodantas 22:45:41 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/160 22:45:48 Ok, depois falamos mais sobre isso ramilton ;) 22:45:53 cevillacorta__: its ".fas your-fedora-acount" 22:45:59 ok 22:46:13 ramilton that is your dance, so please explain the event and what you need 22:46:32 nice. lets wish then :) 22:46:42 apahim: :D 22:47:13 Esse evento tem como proposito falar sobre os projetos fedora e sua comunidade. Agregar valores para participar de projetos 22:47:29 temos laboratorio a disposicao, salas e auditorio para palestras e oficinas 22:47:49 termos palestra sobre empacotamento, traduçao, comunidade. 22:48:07 e vamos fazer oficinas de empacotamento para entrar algo a comunidade 22:48:08 sounds good :-) 22:48:20 Sounds like a complete event 22:48:20 asoliard: sounds awesome :-D 22:48:27 o/ 22:48:29 a ideia é pegar pequenos projetos e empacotar para ser entregue ao projeto fedora 22:48:41 a mesma coisa vai acontecer com tradução 22:48:42 ramilton, que bom 22:48:43 yeap, mribeirodantas 22:48:46 echevemaster_: você poderia ajudá-lo com isso, certo? 22:48:52 na oficina iremos pegar pequenos projetos e traduzir 22:48:58 Arranjar pequenos softwares para serem empacotados por iniciantes para entrar no Fedora. 22:48:59 Yes, remote way 22:49:13 Great. 22:49:16 Lvaz, go ahead bro 22:49:17 inclusive o echevemaster vai participar via video conferencia 22:49:36 preciso de recurso para levar dois embaixadores 22:49:41 ramilton: lembre-se que não sabemos nada a respeito do publico 22:49:50 sendo eu e mais um que vai falar de empacotamento 22:49:58 .fas cevillacorta 22:50:00 cevillacorta__: cevillacorta 'CESAR R. VILLACORTA ROJAS' 22:50:12 o publico alvo são alunos da propria faculdade, e comunidade externa 22:50:32 #chair lvaz echevemaster mribeirodantas ramilton 22:50:32 o evento já esta sendo divulgado tanto em radio, em sala de aula 22:50:32 Current chairs: aeperezt echevemaster lvaz mribeirodantas ramilton 22:50:43 Radio? :O cool! 22:50:44 a faculdade está trabalhando o marketing do evento 22:50:51 ramilton, parabens pelo evento 22:51:08 teremos entrevista 22:51:19 ramilton, legal !!! 22:51:19 ramilton, what do you need from us? 22:51:21 ramilton, sounds really great 22:51:22 aeperezt: It seems a great FAD to me, don't you think? 22:51:33 preciso de recurso financeiro 22:51:41 .fas alyaj2a 22:51:41 para translado e hospedagem 22:51:42 alyaj2a: alyaj2a 'Aly Yuliza Machaca Mamani' 22:51:53 o evento vai acontecer nos dias 08 e 09 22:51:58 Please do a poll for see the skills of the attendees 22:51:59 de novembro agora 22:52:08 mribeirodantas, well it do not qualify as FAD, but more lika promotional event, but still is great 22:52:14 echevemaster_ +1 22:52:20 mribeirodantas, that is not a fad 22:52:31 como estava falando, serão dois embaixadores de fora do estado de sao paulo, e o restante do estado 22:52:34 aeperezt: does not? He said he will translate Fedora stuff during the event, package Fedora packages during the event 22:52:39 I thought that's a FAD 22:52:44 confirmado esta o claudio pensanio, leonardo vaz 22:52:50 Hey guys please, order 22:52:53 mribeirodantas, read the FAD guilines 22:53:05 ok. 22:53:07 Use ! 22:53:13 ! 22:53:13 echevemaster, +1 22:53:17 e outros dois sou eu do espirito santo e o itamar de uberlandia 22:53:22 echevemaster, +1 22:53:27 US$ 840.50 as per ticket description to bring some ambassadors 22:54:06 .fas yulytas 22:54:08 yulys: yulytas 'Julita Inca Chiroque' 22:54:14 esse valor eu tinha feito para 3 embaixadores apahim 22:54:15 ramilton, do you have how much you need? and how it will be used 22:54:31 como estou levando somente dois, esse valor vai abaixar 22:55:18 Será utilizado R$ 1003,00 para translado de vitoria sao paulo e uberlandia a sao paulo 22:55:27 ramilton, we need individuals tickets for the people that is going to travel and the cost of each, so we can start getting tickets and all that 22:56:03 não aeperezt 22:56:16 tinha feito um ticket só para todos 22:56:20 mais descriminado 22:56:23 ramilton, as evento owner you will say what ticket is valid, but we need that way so we know were is going and who to do the reimbusrment 22:56:48 ok.. 22:57:18 vou pedir para os embaixadores abrir o bilhete agora 22:57:30 ramilton, thanks 22:57:32 Excellent. 22:57:41 Ok latam 22:57:50 we need a vote to support this event 22:58:00 aeperezt, eu preciso abrir o meu também? 22:58:06 galera eu tenho que sair um momento.... volto 22:58:07 so all that agreed please vote 22:58:14 ramilton, are you traveling? 22:58:27 sim 22:58:27 aeperezt: +1 22:58:32 it is only for the people that need travel and lodgin 22:58:37 aeperezt: He is the one coming from Vitória to São Paulo. 22:58:42 The one from Uberlandia to São Paulo is Itamar 22:58:54 mribeirodantas, in that case yes 22:58:55 And you mribeirodantas 22:58:59 I'm not coming. 22:59:04 And ramilton? 22:59:12 I gave 12 talks in the last 3 months. I have to work/study a bit now :) 22:59:24 Oh ok :) 22:59:26 so lest vote 22:59:31 +1 22:59:47 +1 22:59:50 +1 from me 22:59:50 +1 22:59:53 now for the event so we do not have to vote for the ambassadors tickets as long as they are withing the budget 23:00:03 +1 23:00:12 +1 23:00:16 .fas MuniMala 23:00:16 aeperezt: munimala '' 23:00:22 +1 23:00:24 .fasinfo MuniMala 23:00:25 aeperezt: User "MuniMala" doesn't exist 23:00:36 Good luck preparing event, ramilton 23:00:45 +1 23:00:59 ! 23:01:02 ramilton: Pode contar comigo para o que precisar, muito embora não poderei comparecer fisicamente. 23:01:02 obrigado echevemaster 23:01:10 Go ahead lvaz 23:01:14 lvaz, go ahead this is your home 23:01:14 aeperezt raised a very important point here, we should call it just as an event to promote fedora (talks and some workshops), and not a FAD because it differs a lot from the description. besides, it's important to keep in mind that we don't know anything about the audience (if they understand what is open source, if they linux, if they have experience in building software and so on...). before going further we should know it in order to prepare a suitable 23:01:35 aeperezt: thanks ale 23:01:43 Yeah 23:01:49 Please do a poll 23:01:50 ramilton: ^^^ 23:01:51 a suitable? 23:02:08 Your message was cut 23:02:24 ... prepare a suitable program for the audience. 23:02:37 Oh ok :) 23:02:38 eot 23:02:59 thanks lvaz 23:03:01 The poll idea sounds fine. 23:03:28 we need be more objective 23:03:40 #agreed to support event on Sao Paulo ticket 160 23:03:59 ramilton: did you talk to Sandro today? 23:04:00 +1 lvaz 23:04:17 ramilton, please do the other tickets so we can start helping you with what you need 23:04:36 #topic open floor 23:04:49 ok. aeperezt, estou fazendo 23:05:04 conversei com ele agorinha lvaz 23:05:04 o/ 23:05:30 ramilton: what did he say about our questions? 23:05:31 Asoliard go ahead 23:05:49 mribeirodantas, FAD will have fedora people working on a fedora matter, so no newbies learning or teaching is involve that is what make the difference 23:06:18 in Argentina, we are tom make something like a FAD to organize and evaluate FUDCon 23:06:18 aeperezt: I thought so. But Ramilton told me that he would teach people to use Transifex, for example, and then people would translate a few sub-projects o Fedora into Brazilian Portuguese. 23:06:41 So that at the end of the event, aeperezt, Fedora would have a few sub-projects translated BY the audience. 23:07:13 mribeirodantas, that is fine but with that then become a promotional event, people may help that day and not contribute more after that 23:07:35 Ok, now you've made a point. True :) 23:08:02 mribeirodantas: we need to ensure the audience can do it. we still don't know anything about them (except the fact they're students in a technology course) 23:08:06 So, I wan't to know if the travels can be sponsored, the meeting is in Rosario, Santa Fé. For example, my bus have a price of U$S 25 aprox 23:08:20 lvaz: I can speak for translation. Any English speaker with 5min training can translate through Transifex. 23:08:31 Not that they can translate everything perfectly. But they can help. 23:08:32 asoliard, what do you need 23:08:49 mribeirodantas: i bet so 23:08:52 When it comes for packaging, maybe they can't help :( 23:09:01 that's the point 23:09:13 True. 23:09:15 know if the travels can be sponsored 23:09:25 asoliard, travel for? 23:09:27 we invited Diegobz but he won't be able to come 23:09:39 asoliard, I think you need to explain what you plan 23:09:52 And fill the tickets respective 23:10:33 Argentina contributors want to organize FUDCon 2014 here, and the idea is to discuss everything and evaluate 23:11:14 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War 23:11:26 mribeirodantas, the other thing is FAD needs to have a goal, so saying that they will help translate do not help, if you say we are goint to translate the Apache manual for fedora then you have a goal 23:11:30 ^^^ mribeirodantas: have you read this book? 23:11:37 lvaz: yes :) 23:11:40 I have it 23:11:42 Jaja lvaz that is right 23:11:46 right] 23:11:50 the point here is 23:11:58 we don't know anything about the audience 23:12:30 in my opinion the goal here is not bringing more translators/packagers (not now) 23:12:44 lvaz, I underestand that perfectly we have the same issue on Fudcon Cusco 23:12:48 the goal is getting there and introduce FOSS and Fedora to people 23:13:03 asoliard, you are planning a FAD for Argentina Ambassadors 23:13:03 aeperezt: you know what I mean 23:13:07 Really? Ramilton told me it was an event intended to DO something. 23:13:18 lvaz, I do 23:13:24 So, I only want to know if it's possible to sponsor some travels 23:13:43 mribeirodantas: right, but if we go there and met people who barely understand what Linux is? 23:13:52 aeperezt, not only me :-) 23:13:54 :) 23:14:04 lvaz: then nothing will be done [correctly]. 23:14:11 ramilton: você tem alguma noção da audiência? 23:14:21 mribeirodantas: at this point, having more people involved would be a "plus" 23:14:50 asoliard, yes, travels can be sponsored. fill the ticket, explain your plans and it will be further discussed on the meeting. 23:14:51 Indeed. 23:15:03 if we do a good conference in November, they'll surely will invite us to make another one 23:15:11 asoliard, FAD's has special budget so you need to create a wiki page explain the goal, what you need prices and details, then we reviewed and request the budget from Ruth or Robyn who evaluate what your are proposing 23:15:35 aeperezt, right 23:15:41 asoliard, #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_-_FAD?rd=FAD 23:15:47 aeperezt já criei o meu https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/166 23:16:03 otherwise, if I just get there and just deliver talks and workshops, we don't know if it will work or not 23:16:09 my 2 cents 23:16:20 Ok, I will tell the others. 23:16:21 aeperezt, como o itamar nao esta presente eu posso criar o dele? 23:16:26 asoliard, so I could help you but you need to start by doing the page 23:16:41 yes, thanks, aeperezt 23:16:51 mribeirodantas, de 200 a 400 pessoas 23:16:53 ramilton: do you mind if I talk to Sandro directly and try to raise this information? 23:17:16 ramilton: São leigos? Tem conhecimento técnico? Sabem programar? 23:17:18 Tem algum conhecimento desse tipo? 23:17:27 lvaz, não... fique avontade 23:17:52 existe os tres tipos, 23:18:04 tantos leigos, técnicos e programadores 23:18:09 lá é uma faculdade a noite 23:18:12 Entendi. 23:18:15 e escola de manha e a tarde 23:18:23 hobbits, dwarves and elfish 23:18:24 vamos ter o público variado 23:18:25 Faz uma enquete, como o echevemaster_ falou. E assim você terá uma noção da audiência e poderá planejar o evento 23:18:53 o evento já esta todo planejado, inclusive com a grade de palestra e oficina 23:19:16 ah, entendi 23:19:21 ramilton: where is it? 23:19:22 a ideia é esse ser um sucesso e dar retorno a comunidade para fazer algo bem maior 23:19:29 hmmmmmmm masssa :) 23:19:43 vou compartilhar com vc lvaz 23:19:46 Hey any contributor is welcomed 23:19:57 In any area 23:20:20 por exemplo fazer o fudcon no Brasil. Entendeu mribeirodantas 23:20:21 We need people in infra but also in other areas 23:20:34 ramilton: we can make a conference call tomorrow with Sandro 23:20:49 +echevemaster_ 23:20:49 sim echevemaster, por isso vamos fazer oficina de empacotamento e tradução 23:21:05 Btw, yograterol is part of infra, please do a recognition 23:21:10 estamos muito carente de tradutores, em fim em todas as areas do projeto 23:21:18 entendeu echevemaster 23:21:21 congrats yogaterol 23:21:40 sim lvaz, vamos marcar sim 23:21:44 Yohan congratulations 23:22:10 Guys, sorry, I have to go now. Cya. 23:22:28 aeperezt, posso criar o ticket do itamar? 23:22:46 Ramilton I don't think 23:22:50 ramilton, itamar has to add his ticket 23:22:58 Itamar should fill 23:23:00 I've to go... See you, thank you all 23:23:02 ok aeperezt 23:23:46 if there is notting else to talk lets close the meeting 23:23:55