22:37:41 <aeperezt> #startmeeting
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22:37:54 <aeperezt> #meetingname Fedora Ambassadors Latam
22:37:54 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_ambassadors_latam'
22:37:55 <echevemaster> .fas echevemaster
22:37:58 <zodbot> echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com>
22:37:59 * echevemaster Venezuela
22:37:59 <aeperezt> #chair echevemaster
22:37:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: aeperezt echevemaster
22:38:10 <aeperezt> #topic rollcal
22:38:18 <aeperezt> .fas aeperezt
22:38:18 <mayorga> .hellomynameis mayorga
22:38:18 <zodbot> aeperezt: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' <alejandro.perez.torres@gmail.com>
22:38:21 <zodbot> mayorga: mayorga 'Eduardo Mayorga Téllez' <e@mayorgalinux.com>
22:38:28 * aeperezt Panamá
22:38:46 * mayorga Nicaragua
22:38:49 <Danniel-Lara> .fas danniel
22:38:51 <zodbot> Danniel-Lara: danniel 'Daniel Lara Souza' <daniellarasouza@yahoo.com.br> - hdanniel 'Hector Paz' <hdanniel@gmail.com>
22:38:56 * Danniel-Lara Brasil
22:40:56 <wolnei> .fas wolnei
22:40:57 <zodbot> wolnei: charged '' <e+charged@wolnei.com.br> - wolnei '' <e@wolnei.com.br>
22:41:01 <wolnei> Brazil
22:41:07 <yn1v> .fas yn1v
22:41:08 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <yn1v@taygon.com>
22:41:19 * yn1v Nicaragua
22:42:47 <aeperezt> ok
22:43:12 <aeperezt> there is no subject on the agenda for today (there is not ticket)
22:43:37 <aeperezt> #topic Flock sponsorship
22:44:14 <aeperezt> has you all know all people who posted a talk to flock and get enought votes has been invited to flock
22:44:30 <aeperezt> and will be sponsor to flock
22:45:15 <aeperezt> how ever there is no sponsorship for people that has no talks but want to go work with his team on specific work
22:45:58 <aeperezt> therefore famsco ask regions to see if we can take some money from our budget to sponsor someone from the region
22:46:20 <aeperezt> and that person application will be review for famsco
22:46:39 <aeperezt> the main question here is
22:47:11 <mayorga> I don't think so. In that case, I'd rather prefer to sponsor someone from our regional budget to go FUDCon LATAM.
22:47:11 <aeperezt> can we affort to sponsor someone to flock think that the budged have to be around 2000 dls
22:47:23 <bernardoha> .fas bernardoha
22:47:24 <zodbot> bernardoha: bernardoha 'Bernardo C. Hermitaño Atencio' <bernardoha@gmail.com>
22:47:33 <aeperezt> mayorga
22:47:39 <wolnei> i agree with mayorga
22:48:17 <aeperezt> mayorga I think if there is someone lets say that work with infra or other team that is going to meet a flock to do some task
22:48:31 <aeperezt> I will think we should sponsor him
22:48:39 <mayorga> As Ruth said, we still have our premium events. We should focus in our event in order to make it better.
22:49:01 <mayorga> And at Flock, there are chances to participate online.
22:49:43 <aeperezt> mayorga the idea is not to send someone to flock to listen to talks
22:49:58 <aeperezt> the idea is to get someone to do work
22:50:23 <aeperezt> mayorga, lets stop a bit, I think you are jumping ahead
22:51:16 <mayorga> s/online/remotely
22:51:19 <aeperezt> the first thing is, Latam have a person that will go do work on an event from flock ( I'm not sure) but
22:51:29 <aeperezt> lets open that door for now
22:52:04 <aeperezt> mayorga, the main idea is to be able to work in person if there is going to be that chance
22:52:18 <aeperezt> we all work remotly on fedora
22:52:52 <aeperezt> we are not sure if there will be a work shop for infra that will take the advantage of having the people there for example
22:53:58 <aeperezt> what we need to see is if there is a candidate that given the oportunity to do some work on flock could take it
22:54:41 <yn1v> I think that is too expensive
22:55:02 <aeperezt> yn1v, yes to me I think it is too expensive
22:55:32 <echevemaster> how we want manage this?, i think that we must revise all the workshop and let it to the contributor posit himself
22:55:50 <aeperezt> but I wander if there is a person in latam that could take advantage of meeting with his team to do some work on Fedora in flock could we sponsor
22:56:04 <TonetJallo> hola
22:56:08 <echevemaster> but i think the same, it is very expensive with respect to our budget
22:56:11 <TonetJallo> .fas tonet666p
22:56:12 <zodbot> TonetJallo: tonet666p 'Tonet Pascualet Jallo Colquehuanca' <tonet666p@gmail.com>
22:56:20 * TonetJallo Perú
22:56:54 <lorddemon> Buenas noches mil disculpas por la tardaza.
22:57:05 <aeperezt> I'm trying to open de oportunity
22:57:15 <mayorga> Well, if there's something that he/she could achieve only by attending in person, I still doubt it could be feasible. It would be really expensive.
22:58:23 <mayorga> aeperezt: Is there any folk who we could consider for this year' Flock?
22:58:38 <lorddemon> .fas lorddemon
22:58:39 <zodbot> lorddemon: lorddemon 'Gonzalo Nina Mamani' <g.nina.m@gmail.com>
22:59:45 <aeperezt> mayorga at this point we don't know if there will be a person for it but I don't want to close the door
22:59:51 <aeperezt> famsco open it
23:00:17 <aeperezt> if there is someone that can really help to get with his team to do work from latam
23:00:23 * lorddemon Bolivia
23:01:00 <echevemaster> I think that we need create a process of internal postulation
23:01:10 <aeperezt> to me at least, it will be important if someone show that he is doing important work for Fedora and could be good to meet with his team
23:01:14 <yn1v> I was thinking the same
23:02:11 <aeperezt> the question remains if there is one person that show us it will be good to meet his team on flock could we sponsor him
23:02:31 <echevemaster> No person goes raise their hand for posit himself
23:02:40 <aeperezt> and it is not us it has to show famsco who has the final said about it
23:02:57 <aeperezt> in this case it needs to raise his hands
23:03:34 <aeperezt> he by him self has to demostate why it will be helpfull to fedora to work with his team
23:04:33 <aeperezt> what I'm asking if someone show interest and demostate he can o will be help full for him and his team do we support it or don't
23:07:43 <aeperezt> this is not talks it is works and he must show that he has been working with that team before and more that that
23:08:30 <aeperezt> I'm just doing devil' advocate here today
23:09:52 <echevemaster> On that case. I raise my hand. But I'm more interested to attend to Fudcon that to Flock. if this affect my possibilities to attend to Fudcon, I don't want-
23:10:26 <yn1v> I am not convinced because is too expensive, but if somebody shows real things to do in flock I think we should propose that to famsco
23:12:00 <wolnei> +1 yn1v
23:12:35 <echevemaster> yn1v aeperezt it is this contemplated or be can supported in our budget?
23:12:56 <echevemaster> if not. I'm not agree. due to expensive to travel to europe.
23:13:19 <aeperezt> echevemaster, we can only do it if it is around 2000 dls
23:13:49 <echevemaster> aeperezt: any travel from america cost under 2000 to europe
23:13:53 <aeperezt> and it will be a hit on our budget
23:13:59 <echevemaster> so, I don't recommend do it
23:14:04 <echevemaster> w
23:14:13 <echevemaster> I vote for don't do it..
23:14:26 <yn1v> yes, if we pay this, we will not have it to pay other things
23:14:28 <aeperezt> that is our limitation that is why we raise the question
23:14:28 <echevemaster> we have our tasks and events and latam that needs budget
23:15:34 <echevemaster> so, if depends of our budget. I recommend to all, don't do it..
23:15:55 <aeperezt> so let vote and see what happen to close this matter or keep it open
23:16:08 <wolnei> that is the question, one trip to flock will cost many events in latam
23:16:12 * yn1v thinks echevemaster is bouncing ... he wants to go but say not to pay for it :p
23:16:52 <echevemaster> yn1v: not is that. I want to go. but I don't want affect our budget.
23:17:22 <TonetJallo> how much is this?
23:17:32 <echevemaster> we have other events that we can put love
23:17:41 <aeperezt> echevemaster, but it is not to go, it is to work on something specific withthin the team you working with
23:17:42 <echevemaster> TonetJallo: $2000
23:17:53 <aeperezt> so it is not simple
23:18:16 <echevemaster> correctly +1 aeperezt
23:18:56 <echevemaster> so, let it this open, or close the possibilty
23:19:02 <echevemaster> ?
23:19:26 <yn1v> so, we take vote to leave open or just close the matter?
23:19:41 <aeperezt> yn1v, right
23:19:44 <yn1v> open to wait for a candidate
23:20:02 <echevemaster> yn1v: the same of yn1v
23:21:52 <yn1v> are we voting?
23:21:54 <TonetJallo> if it is negative for other events, i think same to echevemaster
23:21:55 <TonetJallo> echevemaster +1
23:21:55 <TonetJallo> thanks echevemaster
23:22:09 <echevemaster> o/ + 1
23:22:45 <wolnei> close the door +1
23:23:06 <echevemaster> + 1 open to wait for a candidate. but thinking if this affect all our budget for other events
23:24:05 <yn1v> I am confused ... Lets vote +1 to wait for a candidate or -1 for closing the matter
23:24:08 <lorddemon> is there anyway to sponsor it, without the budget?
23:24:08 <echevemaster> and sorry for the bouncing but it is my opinion just now
23:24:16 <wolnei> ok -1
23:24:37 <echevemaster> yn1v: stop trolling
23:24:39 <echevemaster> hahaha.
23:25:16 * yn1v can't help it
23:25:59 <yn1v> who else have a vote ?
23:26:19 <yn1v> s /have /has
23:26:22 <aeperezt> +1
23:26:36 <echevemaster> +4 -1
23:26:39 <echevemaster> so....
23:26:39 <mayorga> -1
23:26:45 <echevemaster> +4 -2
23:26:58 <echevemaster> so....
23:27:21 <rosset> -1, just close, I also want to go to work w/ packagers/QA teams, but it's too expensive for LATAM, will be on my own next year :)
23:27:32 <rosset> I also agree it's better to use this 2k in FUDCon
23:27:47 <echevemaster> rosset: we can't use that 2k in fudcon.
23:28:05 <echevemaster> fudcon is out of that budget.
23:28:18 <mayorga> echevemaster: Why?
23:28:49 <mayorga> I mean, Flock is also out of it.
23:29:00 <echevemaster> markieta: because fudcon budget pertains to other item
23:29:19 <echevemaster> mayorga:
23:29:21 <rosset> aeperezt, can this 2k be used for pay fly tickets for next FUDcon latam?
23:30:07 <yn1v> flock is global, fudcon is regional
23:30:09 <echevemaster> FPL assign the latam budget for fudcon, afaik.
23:30:13 <aeperezt> rosset, not
23:31:13 <TonetJallo> i'm vote +1 too
23:31:31 <rosset> aeperezt, so I'm +1
23:31:44 <echevemaster> +6 -1
23:32:01 <echevemaster> sorry
23:32:04 <echevemaster> +6 -2
23:32:14 <rosset> echevemaster, go ahead and apply yourself to flock this year :)
23:33:02 <rosset> aeperezt, so let's wait for a candidate, right?
23:33:13 <aeperezt> yes
23:33:20 <aeperezt> if someone show yes
23:33:53 <rosset> yeah, let people think about it
23:35:01 <echevemaster> so, i think that votes are ready...
23:35:05 <aeperezt> #chair yn1v
23:35:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: aeperezt echevemaster yn1v
23:35:15 <rosset> yn1v, btw thanks to motivate people about next FUDcon, starting meetings asap are important :)
23:35:19 <rosset> echevemaster, +1
23:35:24 <aeperezt> #agreed waith for a candidate if any
23:35:44 <aeperezt> echevemaster,  please finish the meeting have to go
23:35:52 <echevemaster> ok aeperezt
23:35:57 <rosset> aeperezt, cya
23:36:07 <echevemaster> anyone else wants to say something?
23:37:07 <echevemaster> please people not remain silent.
23:37:42 <rosset> TonetJallo, yn1v mayorga wolnei ^^
23:37:54 <echevemaster> so...
23:38:11 <wolnei> no
23:38:18 <lorddemon> nothing
23:38:21 <echevemaster> thanks for attend guys. remember please the fudcon meetings
23:38:21 <yn1v> I will say that I have nothing to say
23:38:23 <TonetJallo> nothing echevemaster
23:38:33 <echevemaster> #endmeeting