15:00:36 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora ARM and AArch64 Status Meeting
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15:00:37 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson jlinton coremodule
15:00:37 <pwhalen> #topic roll call
15:00:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: coremodule jlinton pbrobinson pwhalen
15:00:49 <pwhalen> good morning folks, who's here today?
15:00:58 <coremodule> Good morning! /me is here
15:01:33 * pwhalen high fives coremodule
15:02:16 * jlinton_ waves
15:02:18 * mahmoudajawad is here
15:02:27 <mahmoudajawad> and, very good morning to you pwhalen
15:03:54 <pwhalen> nice and snowy morning here in Ontario (Canada)
15:04:16 <pwhalen> ok, lets get started!
15:04:18 <pwhalen> #topic 1) ==== Userspace Status  ====
15:04:19 <jlinton_> Same here, in TX!
15:04:37 <coremodule> here too in Colorado!
15:05:02 <pwhalen> I saw Texas! Crazy jlinton_
15:05:13 <jlinton_> I'm opening a ski resort.
15:05:14 * mahmoudajawad is in a region where snow does only exist in dictionary, so he doesn't know what you folks are talking about =)
15:05:50 <pwhalen> just stay off the roads for a few days
15:06:00 <pwhalen> mahmoudajawad: where in the world are you?
15:06:13 <coremodule> hahaha mahmoudajawad, only knowing of snow in theory might be the best way to experience snow in my opinion....
15:07:07 <mahmoudajawad> pwhalen: United Arab Emirates, though I exaggerated as we get minutes of snow every few years in the highest mount in the country.
15:07:09 <jlinton> Thats sorta the idea where i'm at too, snow is something you see on the TV, but apparently the 8" in my yard say otherwise, and the texas snowboarders (pickup truck towing a snowboarder) say otherwise.
15:07:41 <mahmoudajawad> coremodule, you bet! people here plan there trips just for the sake of experiencing snow xD
15:08:06 <pwhalen> jlinton: at least you have power
15:08:46 <jlinton> So far, another front is due today. I guess I can thank my wife? (she works for the local power co)
15:09:15 <coremodule> pwhalen, did you lose power?
15:09:15 <pwhalen> Yikes, well hopefully it remains up
15:09:32 <coremodule> *as we stall 10 minutes into the meeting time, :)
15:09:32 <pwhalen> coremodule: no no, but I see lots of people in Texas have
15:09:41 <pwhalen> right!
15:09:47 <coremodule> ohhhh gotcha.
15:10:02 <pwhalen> Ok, I am not aware of any new user space issues myself.. anyone else?
15:10:44 <mahmoudajawad> pwhalen: I have something to ask so that I know whether I can mention some points
15:11:08 <pwhalen> mahmoudajawad: absolutely
15:11:09 <mahmoudajawad> RPi 4 is not supported as we know, however, can I still report any issues I face with RPi 4?
15:11:41 <pwhalen> mahmoudajawad: perhaps wait for the kernel topic in a moment, assuming its kernel related?
15:11:56 <mahmoudajawad> wireless drivers.
15:12:21 <mahmoudajawad> does that fall under kernel or this topic?
15:13:34 <pwhalen> kernel usually,
15:13:45 <pwhalen> which is coming up
15:13:48 <mahmoudajawad> sure
15:13:58 <pwhalen> #info No new user space issues reported.
15:14:06 <pwhalen> #topic 2) ==== Kernel Status ====
15:14:45 <pwhalen> mahmoudajawad: all yours
15:14:49 <mahmoudajawad> Thanks!
15:16:11 <mahmoudajawad> So, I'll begin with wireless drivers issue where three days back I got around 10 packages related to `iwconfig` having an update and then after a restart wireless is not there be be found in devices and network manager
15:16:34 <pwhalen> mahmoudajawad: F33? F34?
15:16:40 <mahmoudajawad> In fact, I though I kept the record from `dnf history info` along with me as I'm currently away from RPi 4 to share it in this meeting, but it seems I forgot to upload it.
15:16:41 <mahmoudajawad> F33
15:16:52 <mahmoudajawad> aarch64
15:17:42 <jlinton> There was a bit of a glitch around the wifi firmware not long ago, do you see messages about being unable to locate the firmware images during boot?
15:18:01 <mahmoudajawad> in systemd? no
15:18:05 <pwhalen> no worries, we should be able to reproduce.. we had a long weekend here so I havent update since last week
15:18:27 <mahmoudajawad> one more thing about the kernel as well
15:19:25 * pwhalen is running updates now
15:19:47 <mahmoudajawad> in update to `5.10.15`, the `dtb` link on the boot partition got deleted rendering the device not-bootable, and by recreating the `dtb` link to the correct kernel `efi` folder the device is booting again
15:20:29 <mahmoudajawad> This is the first time I see this issue on RPi 4, as kernel updates correctly update `dtb` link.
15:22:11 <pwhalen> ok, thanks mahmoudajawad, I'm install 5.10.15 now as will others
15:22:39 <pwhalen> #info kernel-5.11.0-155.fc35
15:22:39 <pwhalen> #link https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1710192
15:22:52 <pwhalen> 5.11 GA, looks like f34 failed to build
15:23:27 <jlinton> I spun up 5.11 yesterday on the rpi4, that looks fine, although limited testing.
15:23:49 <pbrobinson> I've spun it up on a number of things
15:24:47 <pbrobinson> mahmoudajawad: the dtb link being removed should mean it boots using the rpi firmware provided DT so you shouldn't have a non booting device
15:25:03 <mahmoudajawad> jlinton: which fedora version?
15:25:23 <smooge> /me is here late
15:25:56 <pwhalen> howdy smooge
15:26:10 <pbrobinson> mahmoudajawad: I have something around the rpi4 firmware on my list to look at
15:26:34 <mahmoudajawad> pbrobinson: it seems on RPi 4 wouldn't boot at all if `dtb` link is missing. I tried many many combinations of whatever guides available for fedora and even other distros to boot using DT but would always get systemd to stop at random steps if `dtb` link isn't there.
15:26:46 <pbrobinson> mahmoudajawad: I would change your use of iwconfig -> iw as for the former is deprecated and doesn't support a bunch of stuff
15:27:31 <jlinton> mahmoudajawad: F33, but i'm using the uefi/ACPI firmware
15:28:08 <mahmoudajawad> So, many packages were updated along few days back, among them is `iwconfig` for sure, but not sure which others packages are. Shall I send that to the mailing list later?
15:28:22 <mahmoudajawad> that == `dnf history info`
15:28:49 <pbrobinson> mahmoudajawad: I'm guessing it was linux-firmware
15:29:24 <mahmoudajawad> that is correct, `linux firmware` also existed among the packages and some other `*bcm*` ones.
15:30:29 <pwhalen> mahmoudajawad: perhaps stick around in #fedora-arm, seeing if I can reproduce
15:30:55 * mahmoudajawad is there all the time hands-up
15:31:27 <pwhalen> #info Please test and report any issues to the list or #fedora-arm.
15:31:33 <pwhalen> Any other kernel issues?
15:32:29 <pwhalen> #topic 3) ==== Bootloader Status ====
15:32:57 <pwhalen> #info uboot-tools-2021.04-0.3.rc2.fc35
15:32:57 <pwhalen> #link https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1710420
15:33:19 <pwhalen> Has anyone had any problems with Uboot?
15:33:50 <pwhalen> Looking ok for me on everything I've tested
15:34:59 <pwhalen> #topic 4) ==== Fedora 34 ====
15:35:51 <pbrobinson> the rk3399 issue should be fixed in the 2021.04-rc2 build
15:35:56 <pwhalen> #info F34 branched last week, rawhide is now F35.
15:36:11 <pbrobinson> I'm working with upstream on the 5.11 virt problem
15:36:43 <pbrobinson> and if I don't get an answer there I'll fall back to bit bisect
15:37:03 <pbrobinson> that is impacting the flipping on of the uefi on armv7 feature
15:37:52 <pwhalen> Right, really hoping they have an idea there.
15:38:22 <pbrobinson> there's a hint of an idea
15:38:41 <pwhalen> heh, ok
15:40:01 <pwhalen> #info Latest nominated compose
15:40:01 <pwhalen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
15:40:43 <pwhalen> I've not really looked at this yet, results look spotty at best
15:41:34 <pwhalen> yesterday - https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?distri=fedora&version=34&build=Fedora-34-20210215.n.0&groupid=5
15:42:11 <pwhalen> initial-setup issues, etc, will check after the meeting
15:42:54 <pwhalen> Note - Anaconda build (anaconda-34.24-1.fc34) has the changes to require "inst" prefixes for boot options
15:43:10 <pwhalen> people may need to update their scripts
15:44:02 <pwhalen> Anything else for F34?
15:44:53 <pbrobinson> not from me
15:45:01 <pwhalen> #topic 5)  == Open Floor ==
15:45:16 <pwhalen> mahmoudajawad: which rpi4 were you having issues with?
15:45:42 <mahmoudajawad> I have two RPi4 8GiB devices
15:46:29 <mahmoudajawad> Basically both get the same issues all the time together, though, I didn't update the other one past `5.10.12` and not sure if the wireless issue would also show in the other one if I update
15:46:36 <pwhalen> nice, I chose wisely and updated my 8G
15:48:08 <mahmoudajawad> Frankly speaking, since `5.10` updates many things are behaving unexpectedly with every update, but overall the device is stable, aside from the gpu parts.
15:49:34 <pwhalen> ok, reproduced.. no more wifi after my update. It did come back ok dtb symlink is there.. but no wifi
15:50:21 <mahmoudajawad> Can you undo the update?
15:50:26 <coremodule> updating now as well
15:51:02 <mahmoudajawad> I tried but dnf failed and I didn't really have enough time to dig into this
15:52:50 <mahmoudajawad> Sorry folks! I need to leave now. Thanks for taking time to answer my points and questions.
15:52:53 * mahmoudajawad is AFK
15:53:18 <pwhalen> thx for reporting it mahmoudajawad
15:53:36 <pwhalen> Anyone have anything else for today?
15:54:17 <pwhalen> #endmeeting