16:32:04 #startmeeting fedora_atomic_wg 16:32:04 Meeting started Wed Feb 28 16:32:04 2018 UTC. The chair is miabbott_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:32:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:32:04 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_atomic_wg' 16:32:19 #topic roll call 16:32:27 .jas jasonbrooks 16:32:29 .hello miabbott 16:32:30 miabbott_: miabbott 'Micah Abbott' 16:32:32 .hello sayanchowdhury 16:32:33 sayan: sayanchowdhury 'Sayan Chowdhury' 16:32:37 .hello lorbus 16:32:38 lorbus: lorbus 'Christian Glombek' 16:32:47 .hello jlebon 16:32:48 jlebon: jlebon 'None' 16:32:53 .hellomynameis kushal 16:32:54 kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' 16:32:56 #chair sayan lorbus jlebon kushal 16:32:56 Current chairs: jlebon kushal lorbus miabbott_ sayan 16:33:04 .hello gscrivano 16:33:04 #chair jbrooks 16:33:04 Current chairs: jbrooks jlebon kushal lorbus miabbott_ sayan 16:33:05 giuseppe: gscrivano 'Giuseppe Scrivano' 16:33:09 .hello2 16:33:10 dustymab1: Sorry, but you don't exist 16:33:17 .hello2 16:33:18 dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' 16:33:22 #chair giuseppe dustymabe 16:33:22 Current chairs: dustymabe giuseppe jbrooks jlebon kushal lorbus miabbott_ sayan 16:33:46 .hello jberkus 16:33:47 jberkus_: jberkus 'Josh Berkus' 16:34:19 .hello walters 16:34:20 walters1: walters 'Colin Walters' 16:34:24 hi 16:34:31 #chair jberkus walters1 misc 16:34:31 Current chairs: dustymabe giuseppe jberkus jbrooks jlebon kushal lorbus miabbott_ misc sayan walters1 16:35:16 #chair sanja 16:35:16 Current chairs: dustymabe giuseppe jberkus jbrooks jlebon kushal lorbus miabbott_ misc sanja sayan walters1 16:36:21 looks like we are ready 16:36:28 #topic previous meeting action items 16:36:30 .hello2 16:36:31 sanja: sanja 'Sanja Bonic' 16:36:37 - dustymabe to schedule february VFAD a CFP for proposed topics 16:36:46 - davdunc to inform WG about AWS scan results of Fedora Atomic Host 16:36:53 - sanja to create ticket about elminating redundancy in mailing lists + irc channels 16:37:01 - sanja to create ticket about archiving unused projectatomic github repos 16:37:01 misc to open ticket on the irc bot 16:37:05 #info opened ticket for VFAD: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/429 16:37:08 - ashcrow to ping tomas about building f27/tools container 16:37:17 - dustymabe to open ticket to start discussion about quay.io 16:37:30 #info quay.io discussion ticket: https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/430 16:37:43 thanks dustymabe for the updates 16:38:04 davdunc: you around for any updates on the AWS scan? 16:38:39 voted 16:39:18 ok, going to re-action that one 16:39:23 #action davdunc to inform WG about AWS scan results of Fedora Atomic Host 16:39:38 .hello2 16:39:38 davdunc: davdunc 'David Duncan' 16:39:47 sanja: you have tickets for your items, right? 16:39:52 sorry for the delay. 16:39:54 #chair davdunc 16:39:54 Current chairs: davdunc dustymabe giuseppe jberkus jbrooks jlebon kushal lorbus miabbott_ misc sanja sayan walters1 16:39:58 no worries 16:40:09 .hello sinnykumari 16:40:10 ksinny: sinnykumari 'Sinny Kumari' 16:40:15 #chair ksinny 16:40:15 Current chairs: davdunc dustymabe giuseppe jberkus jbrooks jlebon ksinny kushal lorbus miabbott_ misc sanja sayan walters1 16:40:28 miabbott_: It's my fault that I don't have an update today. I need to reaction. 16:40:47 davdunc: already done. thanks for the update regardless 16:41:09 tx. 16:41:34 i'm going to assume that riot/matrix is giving sanja problems... 16:41:46 #info archive unused github repos - https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/428 16:42:11 # info reduce redundant mailing lists + irc channels - https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/427 16:42:14 good meeting 16:42:17 lol 16:42:39 misc: you have an action about an irc bot, but i don't remember the context. any updates/info? 16:42:52 miabbott_: it was to add "!feed" to the bot to feed dustymabe 16:42:54 ok let's check on the previous meeting items then 16:42:59 https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/sresults/?group_id=fedora_atomic_wg&type=team 16:43:11 "17:26:58" 16:43:20 #info reduce redundant mailing lists + irc channels - https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/427 16:43:31 #meetingtopic previous meeting action items 16:43:44 hmm 16:44:15 yeah, i think we have disconnects from some folks 16:44:30 misc: i'll assume you'll work on that at some point in the future :) 16:44:30 is my riot broken? 16:44:36 I don't see any messages 16:44:49 sanja: I think your riot is broken. 16:44:51 :) 16:44:54 if i reply, will she get the messages 16:44:58 sanja, mine is too 16:45:09 i'm using hexchat for this meeting 16:45:15 (direct) 16:45:27 smuxi FTW 16:45:32 miabbott_: I think that's the right moment to assign AI to sanja 16:45:38 haha 16:45:39 * dustymabe note to self, if I start using riot keep a pure IRC handle somewhere in case something like this happens 16:46:07 ashcrow isn't here, so i'm going to re-action the tools container item 16:46:17 #action ashcrow to ping tomas about building f27/tools container 16:46:18 * dustymabe another note to self, donate to riot/matrix so proprietary chat solutions don't win out 16:46:31 dustymabe++ 16:46:58 there are no issues that are tagged with 'meeting', so i guess we are going straight to open floor 16:47:06 unless anyone has an objection? 16:47:21 open floor kinda make me think of a quake death match 16:47:32 (when I was always opening the floor to put others in lava) 16:47:53 * sanja_ obviously joined Freenode at a critical Quake moment. 16:47:59 q3dm3? :) 16:48:07 miabbott_: /me feels like the issues sanja opened maybe she wanted to discuss during the meeting? 16:48:12 Is it open floor? 16:48:15 good idea 16:48:27 sanja_: i noted your actions have tickets 16:48:28 I also probably should bring up the vFAD 16:48:32 did you want to add anything? 16:49:07 nope 16:49:18 ok, dustymabe VFAD? 16:49:18 just the ticket links are enough, thank you 16:49:21 ok then I'll bring up my topic 16:49:27 #topic march 9th vFAD 16:49:38 #link https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/429 16:50:01 next friday (sorry I didn't get around to creating this sooner) 16:50:04 been kinda cray around here 16:50:19 anyone with any good suggested topics we can add? 16:50:41 for the vFAD one topic might be "toolbox/dev container examples/docs" 16:50:54 walters1: ok I can add that 16:50:58 I'm going to be at SCALE 16:51:07 I was gonna try out the tools container with an ansible role to get and install the buildrequires from the spec. 16:51:31 haven'T come aroung to it, yet. and I cant on the 9th :( 16:51:33 jbrooks: the proposed time is 7AM (not ideal), but maybe before conference starts? 16:51:34 one random idea i had here recently is maybe we have a github.com/projectatomic/dev-container-examples with username-subdirectories like walters/ miabbott/ etc 16:51:41 then at least they're all visible in one place 16:51:46 dustymabe, ugh, yeah, I guess that's true 16:52:35 7AM EST right? 16:52:42 walters1: no 16:52:49 should be 10AM EST 16:52:53 ah ok 16:53:06 the ticket has a link in it to a web page where it should show the time :) 16:53:18 * dustymabe thinks that would be a great feature request to pagure 16:53:41 dustymabe: do we need to do any promotion of the VFAD? twitter, mailing lists, etc? 16:53:53 'identify common texts (like date)' and provide URL to time converter 16:54:05 miabbott_: probably wouldn't hurt 16:54:07 I'm 16:54:13 I've got a draft of an email right now to atomic-devel 16:54:27 Maybe I should copy devel@ mailing list? 16:54:43 yeah let's make fedora-devel@ not just be about spec files 16:54:47 another question,, should we open this up to atomic workstation folks, or should we keep the scope narrower than that? 16:54:49 walters1: ^^ 16:55:12 i don't see why not? 16:55:38 yeah, if we invite the world it is definitely important we make/stick to an agenda 16:55:48 so people don't get a bad experience 16:56:12 sanja_: can you help us run this and help with the make/stick to an agenda part? 16:57:58 yes 16:58:17 March 9th should work 16:58:20 #action sanja_ to help make/stick to an agenda for next week's VFAD 16:58:52 ok miabbott_ meeting is yours 16:59:02 i own nothing :) 16:59:10 #topic open floor 16:59:53 a quick note that i've been doing a few PRs for the FAW content https://pagure.io/workstation-ostree-config/pull-requests?status=0 17:00:14 high level is: smaller, but will include podman/buildah/git-core by default 17:00:43 #info FAW content changes - https://pagure.io/workstation-ostree-config/pull-requests?status=0 17:01:08 this only affects rawhide right now but once things settle i'll post to the list and we can discuss growing or shrinking further 17:01:18 great walters1 17:01:22 small update on my side, fedimg is on stg, few packages were missing from EPEL, so worked on them to get things working on stg 17:02:13 #info sayan got fedimg on stg 17:02:23 Have we ported all the tests to the new system from Autocloud? 17:02:43 sayan: thanks for the update. can our next release be with the new fedimg? 17:03:09 kushal: I don't think that is done yet 17:03:18 dustymabe, Okay, thanks. 17:03:49 kushal: any particular reason for asking? 17:04:02 dustymabe, Just asked, as I never heard anything for long. 17:04:49 one thing that has happened is an effort around https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CI 17:05:05 dustymabe: this is the release with the new fedimg 17:05:11 walters1: yeah I think that is the 'new system' he is referring to 17:05:13 package-level testing doesn't replace targeted "system testing" 17:05:41 sayan: what I meant is our next 'atomic host' release 17:05:57 i.e. can we get the new fedimg in place and working before that next release happens 17:06:09 .hello jligon 17:06:10 jligon: jligon 'Jeff Ligon' 17:06:24 #chair jligon 17:06:24 Current chairs: davdunc dustymabe giuseppe jberkus jbrooks jlebon jligon ksinny kushal lorbus miabbott_ misc sanja sayan walters1 17:07:24 dustymabe: oh! I am trying to make it quick 17:07:52 if things work in stg, I just need to run the ansible playbook to push it to prod 17:08:03 :) 17:08:11 sayan: that's great news. please keep me in the loop on that 17:08:29 the first day it's in prod let's make sure we go through things to check it 17:08:52 dustymabe: yes, testing fedimg is tough because of it low test coverage :( 17:09:00 I have to test all things manually 17:09:17 but with the new rewrite, I'll start to focus on writing more tests 17:09:47 another small update would be, I started working on this issue: https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedimg/issues/64 17:10:06 fedimg to use qcow2 directly instead of raw.xz files 17:10:26 sayan: ok, maybe that is coming as a second update 17:10:28 ? 17:10:35 i.e. not blocking the move to new fedimg 17:10:48 dustymabe: yes, not blocking the current release 17:10:54 #info sayan started work on having fedimg to use qcow2 directly - https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedimg/issues/64 17:11:12 sayan: perfect. my priorities are this list basically :) 17:11:15 https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issues?status=all&search_pattern=fedimg 17:11:46 this issue would take a back seat if there are issues in stg, pushing fedimg to prod is priority now 17:12:06 sayan++ 17:12:06 dustymabe: Karma for sayanchowdhury changed to 3 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:12:13 any other topics for open floor? 17:12:23 #info Moved the ownership of the pagure repo to dustymabe 17:12:34 thanks kushal 17:13:53 let's give it another 60s and then call it a meeting 17:14:20 i'll call it a meeting even without waiting 17:14:35 :) 17:14:36 .fire bowlofeggs 17:14:36 adamw fires bowlofeggs 17:14:39 haha 17:14:44 i did deserve that 17:14:49 :D 17:14:56 #endmeeting