16:30:10 #startmeeting fedora_atomic_wg 16:30:10 Meeting started Wed Mar 14 16:30:10 2018 UTC. The chair is ksinny. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:30:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:30:10 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_atomic_wg' 16:30:25 #topic Roll Call 16:30:34 .hello roshi 16:30:34 .hello sinnykumari 16:30:34 roshi: roshi 'Mike Ruckman' 16:30:37 ksinny: sinnykumari 'Sinny Kumari' 16:30:53 .hello2 16:30:54 strigazi: strigazi 'Spyros Trigazis' 16:30:55 .fas jasonbrooks 16:31:00 jbrooks: jasonbrooks 'Jason Brooks' 16:31:09 .fas sanja 16:31:10 sanja_: sjoshi01 'Sanjay Kumar Joshi' - asanjar 'AMIR SANJAR' - singhaniasanjay 'sanjaysinghania' - sanjaykumarco 'sanjay kumar' - sgjymsg 'sgjym jm' - sanjayanagha 'sanjay joshi' - sanjay 'Sanjay Bhatia' - sanjaypothen 'sanjaypothen' (9 more messages) 16:31:16 hello o/ 16:31:24 .hello2 16:31:25 .hellomynameis kushal 16:31:25 miabbott: miabbott 'Micah Abbott' 16:31:28 hiya 16:31:31 kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' 16:31:34 brb 16:31:34 .fas misc 16:31:35 misc: loki4mischief 'Tristan Pelland' - timofedora 'Timo' - stick 'Chris MacLeod' - sarote 'sarote lim' - mishti 'Runa Bhattacharjee' - msalle 'Mischa Sallé' - padla 'Михаил' - henryl 'Henry Ludemann' - mischeavouz02 'Russel A. Landicho' (2 more messages) 16:31:48 * misc look at zodbot 16:31:53 .hello jlebon 16:31:54 .hello2 16:31:54 jlebon: jlebon 'None' 16:31:56 * sanja_ looks at all the miscs. 16:31:57 dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' 16:32:25 .fas "sanja" 16:32:26 sanja_: sjoshi01 'Sanjay Kumar Joshi' - asanjar 'AMIR SANJAR' - singhaniasanjay 'sanjaysinghania' - sanjaykumarco 'sanjay kumar' - sgjymsg 'sgjym jm' - sanjayanagha 'sanjay joshi' - sanjay 'Sanjay Bhatia' - sanjaypothen 'sanjaypothen' (9 more messages) 16:32:29 sanja_: \o/ 16:32:40 Hello everyone! 16:32:55 #chair ksinny roshi strigazi jbrooks sanja_ cverna kushal miabbott misc jlebon dustymabe 16:32:55 Current chairs: cverna dustymabe jbrooks jlebon ksinny kushal miabbott misc roshi sanja_ strigazi 16:32:59 .hello 16:33:01 sanja_: (hello ) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1". 16:33:04 lol 16:33:19 .hellomynameis sanja 16:33:20 sanja_: sanja 'Sanja Bonic' 16:33:23 there we go 16:33:26 :) 16:33:55 if ever matrix either fixes the bug or lets me reactivate, i'll be my usual self again 16:34:08 :D 16:34:11 otherwise the sanja name is forever captive in the matrix 16:34:20 Let's start meetng with previous meeting action items 16:34:26 #topic Action items from last meeting 16:34:37 * davdunc to inform WG about AWS scan results of Fedora Atomic Host 16:34:37 * jlebon to write blog post for recent rpm-ostree/ostree releases 16:34:37 features 16:34:56 Looks like davdunc is not here yet 16:35:09 jlebon: Any update from you on this action item? 16:35:19 woah, one week goes by fast :) 16:35:28 not yet, will have something soon, promise :) 16:35:30 heh, true 16:35:46 jlebon: should I reaction it then? 16:35:46 .hello2 16:35:47 davdunc: davdunc 'David Duncan' 16:35:51 re-action* 16:35:55 ksinny: yes, please 16:35:56 davdunc: Hello 16:36:04 hi ksinny 16:36:04 .hello2 16:36:05 maxamillion: maxamillion 'Adam Miller' 16:36:10 maxamillion!! 16:36:14 >.> 16:36:16 whoa 16:36:19 heyyyy 16:36:19 #chair maxamillion davdunc 16:36:19 Current chairs: cverna davdunc dustymabe jbrooks jlebon ksinny kushal maxamillion miabbott misc roshi sanja_ strigazi 16:36:23 welcome back from #nosleep land 16:36:26 miabbott: Hey! 16:36:38 maxamillion: Hey! 16:36:42 I'm not actually "here", I'm still on Paternity Leave but wanted to start showing up to things to get back to it slowly 16:36:46 hi :) 16:37:20 also, omg no sleep ... second baby does not like to sleep, longest stretch of sleep I've gotten in the last month is literally 3 hours, and that's only happened twice 16:37:35 :) 16:37:44 fun time 16:38:01 davdunc: There is an action item for you 16:38:04 * davdunc to inform WG about AWS scan results of Fedora Atomic Host 16:38:12 davdunc: do you have any update? 16:38:34 rpm issues with the testing tools. 16:38:53 .hello2 16:38:54 jsmith: jsmith 'Jared Smith' 16:38:55 I am working with the Marketplace team at AWS to walk them through it. 16:38:57 * jsmith is lurking 16:39:03 #chair jsmith 16:39:03 Current chairs: cverna davdunc dustymabe jbrooks jlebon jsmith ksinny kushal maxamillion miabbott misc roshi sanja_ strigazi 16:39:05 .hello2 16:39:07 lorbus: lorbus 'Christian Glombek' 16:39:19 #chair lorbus 16:39:19 Current chairs: cverna davdunc dustymabe jbrooks jlebon jsmith ksinny kushal lorbus maxamillion miabbott misc roshi sanja_ strigazi 16:39:46 davdunc: Great! Let us know if you have more update later 16:40:22 #info davdunc is working with the Marketplace team at AWS to walk them through it 16:40:25 It's been slow and that's mostly my fault. I'll put some details in the ticket on the exchanges. 16:41:14 davdunc: +1 on updating in ticket 16:41:49 davdunc: do we have a ticket already opened? 16:42:45 i think it is this - https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/339 16:43:07 miabbott: Thanks! 16:43:52 #info davdunc will do further update about AWS scan results of Fedora Atomic Host on atomic-wg ticket 16:44:03 #link https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/339 16:44:13 that's the one. 16:44:38 #action jlebon to write blog post for recent rpm-ostree/ostree releases features 16:44:52 Ok, moving on to meeting tickets 16:45:13 #topic Asian/Australian timezone IRC meeting for community and parts of WG 16:45:21 #link https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/433 16:45:59 sanja_: would you like to talk about this? 16:46:01 anyone wanna comment on that? 16:46:03 hehe 16:46:27 Well, as we've had it on Twitter and other times, people would like to be at the meetings but they're not in US or European timezone 16:46:27 seems like all the pieces are in place - moderator, time, location 16:47:01 yep, from my POV I'll try be at the first one and then Sinny and Suraj take that - zodbot generates the logs, so just post that to atomic-devel afterwards 16:47:30 maybe I can be there at other times, too - and we should also promote this on Twitter and website (which I'll do) 16:47:31 yup 16:47:46 so unless other comments, can move on to next topic :) 16:47:50 ksinny++ 16:47:53 Do we have a time? 16:48:08 i *might* try to make it some times 16:48:10 5:00 UTC 16:48:22 1AM Eastern so *might* is heavily emphasized 16:48:23 :) 16:48:24 sinnykumari++ 16:48:35 ksinny++ ? 16:48:43 ksinny++ 16:48:43 miabbott: Karma for sinnykumari changed to 3 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:48:44 Awesome to have more people from atomic-wg in the new meeting 16:48:46 winner! 16:48:57 pft 16:49:03 cheat 16:49:07 your nick is all borked sanja_ 16:49:11 .fire miabbott 16:49:11 adamw fires miabbott 16:49:17 aww man 16:49:20 i had a good run 16:49:24 you get used to it miabbott :) 16:49:30 roshi: \o/ 16:49:31 lol 16:49:35 it's all fun and games until someone gets fired 16:49:37 sanja_: Do we have any count who are interested to join the meeting in Asia/Austrela timezone? 16:49:39 lol 16:49:46 absolutely no count 16:50:00 and I'm expecting it to be fairly empty until after devconf.in 16:50:08 I don't know, but I think I had the record, I got fired by adamw about a week into joining the team... 16:50:20 but we need to put things in place because as I said people have asked for it 16:50:29 sanja_: Okay! 16:50:33 what's the format? is it just a review of other community meetings? 16:50:42 same as here 16:50:47 sanja_: would it make sense to delay this until e.g. 1 month before devconf.in then? 16:50:50 sanja_: I beliee so as well that folks will join slowly once they will be aware of 16:50:58 believe* 16:51:03 jlebon no, because people should be aware of it and it should exist before 16:51:05 also it's not just India 16:51:14 i just wonder about making any decisions on tickets, etc without a quorum 16:52:00 sanja_: yup, sounds good. classic chicken and egg problem. 16:52:01 I think it makes sense to be there and start the meeting, if noone is in there, then you'll see - we'll promote it regularly and see if there's a shift 16:52:05 exactly :D 16:52:26 I agree with sanja_ 16:53:02 We try first and let's see if people starts showing up 16:53:19 I wanna give you a cookie but my IRC is broken - thanks for volunteering to moderate this, Sinny 16:53:23 yep 16:53:33 ksinny++ 16:53:33 roshi: Karma for sinnykumari changed to 4 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:53:36 "I wanna give you a cookie but my IRC is broken" - out of context 16:53:37 there you go sanja_ 16:53:50 thanks, roshi! you deserve a cookie for your cookie 16:53:53 sanja_: No problem . I will get a real cookie from you whnever we meet :D 16:53:55 :D 16:54:02 haha, deal :D 16:54:58 so i think that ticket can be closed? 16:56:01 #info atomic-wg meeting for Asian/Australian timezone has been scheduled biweekly on Tuesday at 5:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting1 16:56:10 sanja_: Yup, we can close the ticket 16:56:23 doing that 16:56:36 Any thing else we want to discuss before we move to Open Floor? 16:57:28 * ksinny thinks discussing about VFAD outcome from last week may be a good topic? 16:58:16 dustymabe: sanja_ ? 16:58:54 3 names 16:59:12 no specific outcomes 16:59:13 https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/429 16:59:16 video is here 16:59:31 Colin gave a good explanation and overall review of rojig 16:59:40 rebranding wise we decided it's complicated 16:59:56 there's a lot of ideas in there that we should extract and see if we can make progress on 17:00:22 especially related to docs for common use cases 17:00:44 #topic Atomic VFAD outcome from last week 17:00:54 yes, but that fits in with my docs work - I'm theming Hugo because of jbrooks' valid objections to the previous rework of the website regarding infra 17:00:55 #link https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/429 17:00:59 Are you using AsciiDoc for the docs ? 17:01:03 and misc is working on making asciidoc work 17:01:24 We have put in place a CI/CD pipeline for fedora-docs 17:01:35 we will yes, misc is setting up asciibinder and making it so that several repos can count in, so we can host container best practices again - they updated it and it's now good to publish according to a call we had 17:01:40 for those kinds of doc items, should we create issues on atomic-wg or pa/atomic-site? 17:01:41 * jsmith can help with any docs looking needed 17:01:42 that build automatically the docs from pagure 17:01:51 uuuh 17:01:54 cverna++ 17:01:57 jsmith: Karma for cverna changed to 16 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:01:58 cverna, can I poke you bout htat via email? 17:02:05 cverna++ 17:02:06 sure 17:02:08 if only my nick worked 17:02:19 no worries ;) 17:02:20 cverna++ via sanja 17:02:24 * lorbus is actually just watching it and therefore not really here^^ 17:02:24 haha 17:02:31 come on zodbot 17:02:51 so regarding website, the following is happening: 17:03:13 * we have lots of docs that are written but never been published, I'll need your eyes on that once published so you can edit outdated content 17:03:23 I already gave cverna karma like 10 times 17:03:24 * these docs come from 3 different repos and will be on docs.projectatomic.io 17:03:41 and the normal website and blog will be hosted via openshift and hugo 17:04:50 great! 17:05:17 anything else? 17:05:23 from my side, that's about all teh updates 17:05:28 please submit to devconf.us and devconf.in 17:05:33 whoever wants to go there or there 17:05:51 don't forget that if your company/department can't pay it, I can pay for your travel and accommodation 17:06:03 as long as the talk is Atomic Host or Atomic Workstation-related 17:06:11 can even be Buildah in fact 17:06:14 or cockpit 17:06:26 so, i speak about atomic Workstation next week, should I have it on your departement, or my departement ? 17:06:34 misc: haha 17:06:37 :P 17:06:40 isn't that the same department 17:06:54 dustymabe: yep 17:07:41 I think we can move now to Open floor 17:07:44 #link VFAD vluejeans recording - https://dustymabe.fedorapeople.org/2018-03-09_Fedora-Atomic-WG-vFAD.mp4 17:08:00 #link VFAD summary - https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/2018-03-09_Fedora-Atomic-WG-vFAD 17:08:06 #topic Open Floor 17:08:28 I have an open floory subject about container 17:08:40 cverna: go ahead 17:09:17 I would like to start introducing some CI to fedora container 17:09:50 cverna: That's awesome 17:09:55 and the first thing would be a Dockerfile linter, that would check the container guideline + best practice 17:10:21 +1 17:10:28 cverna++ 17:10:28 ksinny: Karma for cverna changed to 17 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:10:32 ttomecek's team have something similar internally so the idea is to try to leverage some of their work 17:10:47 and everyone.. let's take a moment to thank cverna for stepping up and voluteering to "own" more parts of the container build service known as FLIBS 17:10:56 cverna: very nice 17:10:59 cverna++ 17:10:59 jlebon: Karma for cverna changed to 18 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:11:15 cverna++ 17:11:15 davdunc: Karma for cverna changed to 19 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:11:17 cverna: Very cool +1000 17:11:18 cverna++ 17:11:29 all out of cookies, i guess 17:11:31 whohoh cookie party :) thanks 17:11:45 :) 17:11:56 cverna: is the goal to eventually gate new images on tests? 17:12:22 jlebon: that would be great but I see that as a long term goal 17:12:30 #info cverna will be introducing some CI to fedora container which will incldude checks like Dockerfile linter 17:13:00 I think something we can do is to get the Dockerfile lint in place without to much infra work 17:13:36 The question is how to report the lint results, I am not a big fan of raising 100s of bugzilla 17:14:19 no way to do some autoqa hook ? 17:14:47 hum might be, I did not look at it 17:14:52 * dustymabe has to step away, will read scrollback later 17:15:27 * jlebon as well 17:15:47 Any other topic for open floor? 17:17:26 cverna, introducing CI for containers in Fedora? Awesome, that's been on my backlog for a long time 17:17:35 ttomecek++ 17:17:35 dustymabe: Karma for ttomecek changed to 3 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:17:52 ttomecek: cverna: can you sync on strategy? 17:18:07 let me know if you need any help; I wanted to get in touch with Tim Flink or Kamil Paral how it could have been done with taskotron 17:18:12 dustymabe: yes that was my plan 17:18:14 dustymabe, absolutely 17:18:39 ttomecek++ 17:18:47 ttomecek++ 17:18:47 ksinny: Karma for ttomecek changed to 4 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:19:16 is it karma day? :D 17:19:22 pi day 17:19:26 we only have cookies 17:19:34 ttomecek: It's cookie day :D 17:19:38 cverna++ 17:19:38 ttomecek: Karma for cverna changed to 20 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:19:49 neat! can I have some? 17:20:13 Karma already hit you with sookies 17:20:15 cookies 17:20:17 * ksinny thinks we can have a meeting just for distributing cookie to all deserving people :D 17:20:27 yes, MOAR MEETINGS 17:20:29 :) 17:20:48 cookie meetings always good 17:21:12 yup, symbol of happiness 17:22:08 Any more topic for discussion in open floor ? 17:22:43 seems not 17:22:46 * ksinny will wait for 30 seconds and then will end the meeting 17:22:47 :) 17:23:05 thanks everyone, great cookie distribution today and thanks for chairing the meeting ksinny 17:23:14 #endmeeting