10:56:52 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Fedora Badges 10:56:52 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 21 10:56:52 2017 UTC. The chair is riecatnor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 10:56:52 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 10:56:52 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_badges' 10:56:58 <riecatnor> #chair mleonova 10:56:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: mleonova riecatnor 10:57:38 <riecatnor> so things seem to be going well with Flock.. sounds like their will be a badges do-session for sure 10:57:45 <riecatnor> ? 10:57:57 <mleonova> looks like it! 10:58:08 <riecatnor> exciting!! 10:58:27 <riecatnor> Once we hear, time to rework all of our slides to include pagure :) 10:58:38 <mleonova> hehe, yeah! 10:58:46 <misc> congrats 10:58:54 <mleonova> I think it's going to be Friday-ish 10:59:00 <riecatnor> do you have any more knowledge on the symbol library? 10:59:08 <mleonova> misc, what for?) 10:59:13 <riecatnor> hi misc 10:59:15 <mleonova> riecatnor, not a clue ;P 10:59:18 <misc> mleonova: being almost at flock :p 10:59:27 <misc> (celebrate early, celebrate often) 10:59:33 <misc> hi riecatnor and mleonova too 10:59:35 <riecatnor> lol misc did you decide to come yet? 10:59:38 <mleonova> misc, ha! I'd rather celebrate after)) 10:59:46 <misc> riecatnor: nope :/ 10:59:50 <misc> mleonova: we can do both ! 11:00:15 <riecatnor> aw misc that is too bad 11:00:18 <riecatnor> you will be missed 11:00:33 <misc> I would say "I might reconsider if enough people ask", but last time I said that, people made me apply for the board and I got elected 11:00:40 <riecatnor> mleonova, yeah first I was hearing about a symbol library though I do think it will be useful 11:00:43 <misc> riecatnor: yeah :/ 11:01:21 <riecatnor> I wonder if you are able to edit the symbols? 11:01:31 <riecatnor> do you use symbol libraries much mleonova 11:01:50 <mleonova> riecatnor, I hate to admit I have no idea what that is 11:01:52 <misc> symbol library would help to quickly sketch concept, so that would be useful 11:02:06 <mleonova> misc, do you have examples? 11:02:06 <misc> I can't draw, but I can surely place stuff using mouse 11:02:23 <misc> mleonova: well, that's used to draw diagram, for networks, for example 11:02:24 <misc> with dia 11:02:35 <misc> or think like the brush in gimp 11:02:48 <mleonova> hey a2batic!! 11:03:00 <a2batic> hey mleonova o/ 11:03:00 <riecatnor> hello a2batic 11:03:02 <mleonova> welcome) 11:03:15 <a2batic> Hi riecatnor :) 11:03:20 <riecatnor> how are you? 11:03:39 <a2batic> I am good, how is it going for you ? 11:03:49 <riecatnor> pretty well.. got my coffeeeee :) 11:04:12 <riecatnor> so a2batic, can you explain more about the symbol library you are working on 11:04:30 <riecatnor> mleonova and i were just discussing, and realized neither of us have even used one 11:04:34 <a2batic> Yeah 11:04:38 <mleonova> we are very curious! 11:05:37 <a2batic> So when I started with making badges, I found out there are many resources availble for making badges 11:06:14 <a2batic> many of them are in resource folder 11:07:12 <a2batic> but some like fedora logo has to be downloaded or svg has to be ungrouped 11:07:49 <a2batic> so there are some other resources too similar to that 11:08:58 <a2batic> We can create a symbol library 11:09:01 <a2batic> in inkscape 11:09:12 <a2batic> which can have all the fedora badge resiurces 11:09:20 <a2batic> *resources 11:09:48 <a2batic> we can simply drag or click on the workspace 11:10:07 <mleonova> a2batic, how will it look? I'm struggling to imagine) 11:10:14 <riecatnor> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SymbolsDialog 11:10:23 <riecatnor> mleonova, check this out 11:10:54 <mleonova> riecatnor, aha, cool.. lemme look for some screenshots, too 11:11:09 <riecatnor> the library of graphics will be in a dialog and you will be able to choose 11:11:13 <a2batic> ya, i have some too 11:11:26 <riecatnor> next question that comes to mind is can you edit the symbols.. but i have not finished reading :) 11:11:30 <mleonova> a2batic, I'd love to see those! 11:12:28 <a2batic> http://img.susepaste.org/82350650 11:12:34 <mleonova> somehow for me 1 screenshot is worth a 1000 wiki pages :D 11:12:35 <a2batic> mleonova, riecatnor ^^ 11:12:43 <riecatnor> it doesn’t explicitly say on thsi wiki if you can edit symbols.. a2batic can you answer this question for me? 11:13:06 <a2batic> riecatnor, yes we can edit symbols 11:13:12 <riecatnor> a2batic \o/ 11:13:15 <riecatnor> awesome! 11:13:17 <riecatnor> i love this 11:13:22 <mleonova> that's really cool! 11:13:38 <a2batic> But there is a bug -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1419345, which does not allow to edit the symbols. Till the bug is solved Edit -> Clone -> unlink clone can be used as work-around 11:13:53 <riecatnor> I think it would be nice to have different sets of symbols, as we have a lot of graphics in badges now 11:14:22 <riecatnor> like, a break down for badges, pandas, logos/project logos, animals and everything else 11:14:28 <riecatnor> badgers*** 11:14:42 <a2batic> riecatnor, yes, I have done some grouping too 11:14:50 <riecatnor> if they were all in one, could be hard to find what you are looking for 11:14:54 <riecatnor> ok great :) 11:15:49 <a2batic> sending a screenshot 11:16:10 <a2batic> http://img.susepaste.org/16050267 11:16:31 <a2batic> Although i am planning to add more graphics to it 11:16:37 <riecatnor> I have a thought here 11:17:00 <a2batic> yup 11:17:02 <riecatnor> first of all, this looks great! 11:17:19 <riecatnor> I would not like to make the badge templates into symbols 11:17:27 <riecatnor> as an option for people to use 11:17:38 <riecatnor> they need to use the template files 11:17:41 <riecatnor> my reason for this 11:17:58 <riecatnor> is because we have a lot of issues with wrong sizing, distortion and placement 11:18:02 <riecatnor> this would further that issue 11:18:31 <riecatnor> the template files *should* make the right file size, placement etc everytime and yet we still have issues 11:19:35 <mleonova> second that, riecatnor 11:20:02 <a2batic> yes, that will be a problem even if we make symbol of template of exact size 11:20:18 <riecatnor> because the person using it would still have to place it 11:20:28 <riecatnor> ok. glad we are on the same page with that 11:21:13 * a2batic nods 11:21:40 <riecatnor> a2batic, this is really cool! thanks for making this 11:21:51 <riecatnor> We have a lot of new artwork since I put together the old resource files 11:22:02 <riecatnor> It would be really awesome to see some of that in their too 11:22:09 <a2batic> riecatnor, thanks :) 11:22:34 <riecatnor> I would be happy to help, but I am not sure how to make the symbols.. would it be helpful if I made a file of newer graphics for you to add? 11:22:53 <a2batic> riecatnor, mleonova, do you believe it will reduce the efforts of contributors ? 11:23:10 <riecatnor> yes! definitely.. i know i would use it as long as i could edit them 11:23:20 <mleonova> of course! 11:23:43 <mleonova> misc will totally start making badges then ;) 11:24:13 * a2batic smiles 11:24:34 <riecatnor> a2batic: I would be happy to help, but I am not sure how to make the symbols.. would it be helpful if I made a file of newer graphics for you to add? 11:25:15 <a2batic> Initially i was planning to make plugin, thanks to mizmo for guiding me 11:25:44 <a2batic> riecatnor, oh yes yes, that will be great 11:26:04 <riecatnor> ok great! I will work on that for you 11:26:18 <a2batic> we can all together work on this :D 11:26:35 <a2batic> riecatnor, yup ok 11:26:38 <riecatnor> a2batic: is this a good meeting time for you? just curious as I can probably have something for the next meeting 11:26:44 <riecatnor> two weeks from now 11:27:09 <a2batic> yes, it works for me 11:27:26 <a2batic> *this 11:27:33 <riecatnor> ok sweet! I will have a file or two for you then 11:28:12 <riecatnor> a2batic, also curious, which badge designs have you created? or do you mainly work on support for badges 11:29:07 <a2batic> riecatnor, i tried creating some badges... let me fetch the tickets 11:30:59 <a2batic> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/204 11:31:05 <a2batic> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/489 11:31:09 <a2batic> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/490 11:31:11 <a2batic> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/491 11:32:05 <a2batic> I wasnt able to complete it 11:32:13 <riecatnor> a2batic: for 204 can you reupload your newest png? 11:32:32 <riecatnor> thats ok, we can help you! 11:32:52 <mleonova> riecatnor, looks like we reviewed some of them 11:33:11 <riecatnor> same for 489 11:33:21 <a2batic> riecatnor, yes, I will upload the new designs today 11:33:23 <riecatnor> yes, but latest links are for the old trac, so we can’t see 11:33:35 <mleonova> but before migration, so it would be lovely if a2batic can fetch the pngs) 11:33:39 <riecatnor> i am saving these links so we can review and help them get through 11:34:05 <a2batic> riecatnor, mleonova thanks :) 11:34:27 <a2batic> will upload it today 11:34:31 <riecatnor> same for all the tickets a2batic :) we can help finish them up 11:34:34 <riecatnor> ok great 11:36:19 <riecatnor> mleonova: anything more happening with the blog post? 11:36:26 <riecatnor> did they approve it? 11:36:27 <mleonova> riecatnor, actually yes! 11:36:33 <mleonova> I wanted to talk about it 11:36:39 <riecatnor> ok, give me the low down girl 11:37:12 <mleonova> right! SO Brian suggests we maybe wants to reword it a bit and publish something for Fedora Magazine in the future 11:37:28 <riecatnor> yes, i saw that email 11:37:37 <mleonova> but for now I think, as well as Paul commented, that we'd still want to publcih to commops 11:37:44 <mleonova> *publish 11:38:04 <riecatnor> i remember talking with ryanlerch at last years flock said that the magazine was geared towards users vs. contributors 11:38:20 <mleonova> so he just changed a sentence, but otherwise I just wanted to confirm with you 11:38:27 <mleonova> yeah, same thing there 11:38:46 <riecatnor> because we were planning these posts all the way back then :P 11:39:00 <riecatnor> so yes, go ahead no worries about any small changes 11:39:02 <riecatnor> lets push it through 11:39:12 <mleonova> ok cool 11:39:30 <riecatnor> and as for the magazine.. im honestly not sure. it could be cool to have it out there, but i don’t think it should be recurring that often on the magazine if it goes there at all 11:39:40 * mleonova needs to find that guide again 11:39:49 <riecatnor> so maybe once every 6 months or so? if at all 11:39:54 <mleonova> riecatnor, maybe something more general about badges 11:40:06 <riecatnor> ok! yes i like that idea 11:40:12 <riecatnor> we can write this together 11:40:13 <mleonova> without a specific list of issues 11:40:16 <mleonova> yeah 11:40:28 <riecatnor> and it could still be geared towards designers 11:41:05 <mleonova> yep 11:41:27 <riecatnor> and we can show off some of the most fun artwork from badges 11:41:41 <riecatnor> mainly the two artist series :D 11:41:47 <mleonova> sounds like fun!) 11:42:09 <riecatnor> ok, so future project! once we get ryans approval 11:42:18 <mleonova> \o/ 11:42:21 <riecatnor> I am sure he will be at flock? 11:42:25 <riecatnor> do you know if he will mleonova 11:43:00 * a2batic wonders what two artist series ?, sounds interesting 11:43:12 <mleonova> riecatnor, not yet - I haven't chatted with him 11:43:25 <mleonova> mizmo might know more 11:43:59 <riecatnor> a2batic: badge artist series https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/apprentice-badge-artist-i 11:44:02 <riecatnor> thats the first one 11:44:14 <riecatnor> and design team artist series https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/four-badgers-design-team-i 11:44:56 <riecatnor> a2batic: once we help you finish those badges you will earn the apprentice badge :D 11:45:20 <a2batic> oh, sounds cool 11:45:30 <riecatnor> ok mleonova, so we are all set with the most current blog post? 11:45:57 <mleonova> riecatnor, think so! just need to find those instructions :) 11:46:03 <riecatnor> oh hehe 11:46:04 <riecatnor> i can help 11:46:17 <riecatnor> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/writing-community-blog-article/ 11:46:19 <riecatnor> ml 11:46:24 <riecatnor> mleonova^ 11:46:29 <mleonova> riecatnor, woohoo 11:46:35 <mleonova> you're the best! 11:46:58 <riecatnor> mleonova: any badges for your intern that need review or any others you remember off the top? 11:47:01 <mleonova> riecatnor, hmm, so I guess I don't need to do anything? 11:47:13 <riecatnor> once they approve, it should go out shortly 11:47:19 <mleonova> riecatnor, let me look for some badges 11:47:25 <mleonova> ok cool 11:47:59 <riecatnor> if you dont have any pressing badges mleonova I will head off to work 11:48:19 <mleonova> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/533 11:48:37 <mleonova> just one I guess and I'll let you go) 11:49:23 <riecatnor> oh yes, definitely an improvement 11:51:39 <mleonova> ok :) 11:52:17 <riecatnor> what do you think> 11:52:29 <riecatnor> a nit pick, but the stroke could be a little heavier? 11:52:39 <riecatnor> or it just doesnt seem even around the whole cookie? 11:53:58 <riecatnor> i am commenting :) 11:53:59 <mleonova> riecatnor, I think it's alright. maybe bigger 'wafel'? 11:54:02 <mleonova> ok cool) 11:54:09 <riecatnor> make it a little bigger you say? 11:54:19 <mleonova> maybe a bit? 11:54:24 <riecatnor> ok! 11:54:39 <riecatnor> ok peeps 11:54:45 <riecatnor> thanks for coming a2batic 11:55:01 <riecatnor> thanks to you to mleonova as always :) 11:55:05 <mleonova> and misc =) 11:55:11 <riecatnor> lol yes sure and misc 11:55:18 <mleonova> thanks, riecatnor! =)) 11:55:19 <a2batic> thanks riecatnor mleonova for helping out :) 11:55:20 <riecatnor> have a great day everybody!! 11:55:23 <mleonova> you too! 11:55:25 <riecatnor> #endmeeting