10:59:22 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Fedora Badges
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10:59:27 <riecatnor> #chair mleonova
10:59:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: mleonova riecatnor
10:59:54 <riecatnor> #topic Flock!
11:00:21 <riecatnor> so yay! we are both going and we are going to run a do session
11:00:23 <riecatnor> :)
11:00:27 <riecatnor> Im getting very excited
11:00:28 <mleonova> \o/
11:00:34 <mleonova> absolutely!
11:00:51 <mleonova> I'm also happy we're probably doing it day 1
11:00:52 <riecatnor> I have been researching the area a little bit
11:00:55 <riecatnor> yes!
11:01:08 <riecatnor> looks like the beach is about a 30 minute walk :D
11:01:20 <mleonova> oh wow
11:01:27 <mleonova> that is awesome!
11:01:34 <mleonova> when are you arriving?
11:01:47 <riecatnor> I will be arriving Monday evening probably around 9 or so
11:01:56 <riecatnor> leaving saturday afternoon around noon
11:02:05 <riecatnor> what about you
11:03:11 <mleonova> I'll arrive sometime Monday evening and leave on Friday evening
11:03:27 <mleonova> wow, that's like the whole week!
11:03:31 <mleonova> so cool
11:03:57 <riecatnor> yea originally they gave me an itinerary to leave friday and i said whats the difference to push it out a day as the hotel room is booked?
11:04:18 <mleonova> sweet
11:04:23 <riecatnor> doesn’t look like much scheduled friday afternoon so i will be a beach bum :P
11:04:26 <riecatnor> hopefully
11:04:27 <mleonova> =)
11:04:44 <riecatnor> so now that its on! we need to make a plan
11:04:50 <mleonova> neat!
11:04:53 <riecatnor> I have been spending extra time working on badges
11:05:00 <mleonova> https://flock2017.sched.com/event/abdc8ca5a076267bf69a61a78905bf9c  - so here's our session btw
11:05:05 <riecatnor> you’ve probably seen
11:05:12 <mleonova> yeah, you're awesome
11:05:32 <riecatnor> I want to be as familiar with the tickets as I can
11:05:45 <riecatnor> in conversation, people say you know my request for a badge
11:05:50 <riecatnor> and i want to know lol
11:06:01 <mleonova> =))
11:06:12 <mleonova> yeah, I need go through them, too
11:06:20 <riecatnor> as i go through, I have been putting aside easy badges
11:06:23 <riecatnor> well more than that
11:06:24 <riecatnor> hold on
11:06:58 <riecatnor> question in the meantime - which one of us was the last to edit the workshop
11:07:16 <mleonova> uhm.. lemme check
11:08:37 <mleonova> so I have a pdf from last year's Flock, edited on Aug 9, 2016
11:09:25 <riecatnor> ok, thats probably it.. i see pdf files in my drive from the 3rd
11:10:32 <mleonova> how's your laptop doing, btw?
11:10:46 <riecatnor> uhhh dunno lol
11:10:51 <mleonova> :D
11:10:59 <riecatnor> i was working on badges and i wanted to get set up to push and pull badge artwork
11:11:07 <riecatnor> *to finally deal with missized artwork*
11:11:16 <riecatnor> and i couldnt even get git working
11:11:16 <mleonova> oh yeah
11:11:20 <mleonova> ;P
11:11:27 <riecatnor> basically ready to throw it out the window lol
11:11:39 <mleonova> totally get it
11:11:42 <mleonova> I would
11:12:02 <misc> it might be environmentally unfriendly to throw them by the windows
11:12:16 <riecatnor> haha well once mizmo does what she needs to do with it, im starting fresh
11:12:19 <riecatnor> hi misc lol
11:12:28 <misc> hi o/
11:12:31 <mleonova> hey misc =)
11:12:59 <riecatnor> so im using my desktop right now
11:13:04 <riecatnor> and in general
11:13:31 <riecatnor> so i shared a doc with you mleonova
11:13:55 <mleonova> aha, got it
11:14:07 <riecatnor> also, the last svgs i have for the workshop are from 2015 it looks
11:14:13 <riecatnor> do you have saved svgs from 2016?
11:14:18 <mleonova> great list!
11:14:23 <mleonova> I think so
11:14:37 <riecatnor> yes, it is not comprehensive
11:14:56 <mleonova> let me create a gdrive folder for preso files
11:15:05 <riecatnor> ok
11:15:14 <riecatnor> also- instead of doing this where we make separate lists
11:15:18 <riecatnor> we should have a tag
11:15:24 <riecatnor> artwork-easy
11:15:30 <riecatnor> artwork-intermediate
11:15:32 <riecatnor> artwork-hard
11:15:46 <riecatnor> and we can just triage the tickets and people can sort for themselves
11:16:23 <mleonova> sounds great, let's go ahead and set tehse tags?
11:17:37 <riecatnor> im looking to do it now
11:17:56 <mleonova> ok, cool
11:18:05 <mleonova> I'll find svgs while you do that
11:23:27 <mleonova> so the ones I found are from open house from april '16
11:23:45 <mleonova> we only changed the title slide for Flock, I think
11:23:59 <riecatnor> yep that makes sense
11:24:59 <mleonova> added to the drive folder, did you get the link?
11:25:31 <riecatnor> yep!
11:26:57 <mleonova> cool
11:27:33 <riecatnor> whoa weird some of the badges on the pdf look funny
11:27:54 <riecatnor> ok, so I want to go through slide by slide and i will take notes on what needs to be changed
11:28:08 <mleonova> makes sense
11:28:25 <riecatnor> I am on the first page
11:28:33 <riecatnor> *slide
11:28:40 <riecatnor> and I am taking notes in the doc I sent you
11:28:47 <riecatnor> so first page we want to change location and date
11:28:52 <riecatnor> ok with background?
11:29:03 <mleonova> it's fine
11:29:09 <riecatnor> slide 2
11:29:19 <riecatnor> fine with this
11:29:26 <mleonova> yup
11:29:30 <riecatnor> slide 3 also ok
11:29:38 <riecatnor> ok slide 4 needs updating
11:29:54 <riecatnor> oh wait no
11:29:56 <riecatnor> not 4
11:30:01 <riecatnor> thats fine
11:30:07 <riecatnor> its
11:30:08 <riecatnor> 5
11:30:21 <mleonova> oh yeah, definitely
11:31:06 <riecatnor> we can do mostly talking about it, anything else to add to slide?
11:31:14 <riecatnor> I see you in the notes :)
11:31:54 <mleonova> I'm looking at pagure
11:32:10 <mleonova> thinking how deep we want to go into describing it
11:32:25 <riecatnor> eh, just about the same we did for trac
11:32:29 <riecatnor> here is where you find the issues
11:32:33 <riecatnor> here is how you sort them
11:32:37 <riecatnor> its new
11:32:51 <mleonova> ok, yeah
11:32:56 <riecatnor> i think most people will already know how to navigate and use for other things already
11:33:29 <riecatnor> so we need to change title, screenshot, link, and the text is prety good
11:33:41 <riecatnor> except we dont really have a new badge guide anymroe
11:34:05 <riecatnor> need to change slide 6 as well
11:34:32 <riecatnor> but peeps can find all the same thing
11:34:44 <mleonova> we do have a how to now
11:35:03 <riecatnor> the tutorial? or you mean the front page
11:35:30 <mleonova> https://mashaleonova.wordpress.com/2017/01/20/fedora-badges-how-to/ and the overview on pagure
11:35:41 <riecatnor> ok lets add that link in to resources
11:35:50 <riecatnor> the slide*
11:36:34 <mleonova> ok, cool
11:36:35 <riecatnor> ok ready to move on?
11:36:38 <riecatnor> :)
11:36:39 <mleonova> yeah
11:36:48 <riecatnor> yes page 7 needs updating too
11:37:09 <mleonova> so what should it say
11:37:12 <riecatnor> so this can be a further description of using tags to find artwork needed —> level of artwrok
11:37:23 <mleonova> aha, cool
11:38:23 <riecatnor> slide 8 fine
11:38:47 <riecatnor> so basically screenshots and links need to be changed for slide 9
11:38:50 <riecatnor> process is the same
11:38:55 <mleonova> yup
11:39:23 <riecatnor> slide 10 looks fine
11:39:41 <mleonova> same for 11
11:39:58 <mleonova> how are we doing with templates and sizes tho
11:39:59 <riecatnor> 11 needs updated link
11:40:09 <mleonova> true
11:40:23 <riecatnor> what do you mean?
11:40:29 <riecatnor> about templates
11:40:29 <mleonova> should we mention the dpi issue here?
11:40:50 <mleonova> inkscape will probably complain about sizes
11:40:55 <riecatnor> i think we should lecture on this at upload stage :P
11:41:01 <mleonova> ok
11:41:03 <riecatnor> oh wait
11:41:07 <riecatnor> confused
11:41:24 <riecatnor> i remember we had some issues when inkscape upgraded
11:41:30 <mleonova> so when you open an older file, inkscape will complain about the size
11:41:40 <riecatnor> does this happen with the templates?
11:41:43 <mleonova> and then you have a bunch of options
11:41:45 <riecatnor> i have not noticed that
11:41:49 <mleonova> lemme check just in case
11:42:17 <riecatnor> good call
11:42:36 <riecatnor> ok, so if its upon opening the file, yes maybe we should say something here but i may want to leave that up to you
11:42:40 <mleonova> it does for templates on my computer
11:43:01 <riecatnor> do we need to make new templates then?
11:43:07 <riecatnor> that makes me a bit nervouse
11:43:09 <riecatnor> nervous*
11:43:14 <mleonova> why?
11:43:21 <riecatnor> oh i guess to resolve that issue
11:43:35 <riecatnor> new files you save do not do the same thing, correct?
11:43:42 <mleonova> well, we could just tell them to hit ignore and then watch closely for file size upon saving
11:43:53 <mleonova> no, it's for the older ones
11:44:12 <riecatnor> right so if we saved new files and uploaded to resources, maybe we could avoid this issue for people?
11:44:46 <mleonova> I think so
11:44:57 <mleonova> they would also be visible on pagure https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/528 ?
11:45:04 <mleonova> if we re-upload
11:45:29 <riecatnor> it looks like we can delete the old files
11:46:10 <mleonova> 👍
11:46:11 <riecatnor> so i added that to our to do
11:46:17 <mleonova> ok, cool
11:46:31 <riecatnor> so then 11 is ok besides link
11:46:47 <mleonova> ok
11:46:56 <riecatnor> 12 same, link needs to be changed
11:47:12 <mleonova> and 13
11:47:39 <mleonova> 14 needs more thorough update
11:47:46 <riecatnor> ok what do you think
11:48:14 <mleonova> well, there might be problems accessing resources and and source files
11:48:22 <mleonova> bc of pagure links issue
11:48:35 <mleonova> unfortunately, still not fixed..
11:49:00 <mleonova> so one either has to replace half the url or get rid of /files
11:49:15 <riecatnor> oh right
11:49:17 <riecatnor> dammit
11:49:31 <mleonova> :P
11:49:34 <riecatnor> lol ok sooooo i think we need to put a new slide in further up
11:49:38 <riecatnor> just about how to do that
11:49:42 <mleonova> hehe
11:49:51 <riecatnor> after slide 9
11:50:21 <riecatnor> ok i added into the notes
11:50:28 <mleonova> thanks!
11:50:33 <riecatnor> so back to 14
11:50:51 <riecatnor> if we explain earlier about pagure file downloading
11:50:59 <riecatnor> does this need more or no
11:51:11 <mleonova> no, I don't think
11:51:18 <riecatnor> ok, we press on!
11:51:33 <riecatnor> ok so slide 15 needs new screenshots
11:51:38 <riecatnor> and links
11:51:40 <mleonova> definitely
11:51:42 <riecatnor> and we can take out commenting pics
11:52:31 <riecatnor> slide 16 looks fine
11:52:38 <mleonova> hmm I just remembered that one could not probably assign tickets to themselves unless they've been added to the group
11:52:47 <mleonova> we should mention that somewhere
11:52:59 <riecatnor> so we should have them add themselves to group?
11:53:07 <riecatnor> if they want to work on a badge, i think so
11:53:13 <mleonova> I'm not sure they can do it
11:53:24 <mleonova> they might need o be added by us
11:53:28 <mleonova> *to
11:53:28 <riecatnor> oh hm
11:53:33 <riecatnor> we should test this i guess
11:53:45 <riecatnor> I am not sure how that happened for me
11:53:48 <riecatnor> did sayan add us
11:53:57 <mleonova> I don't remember
11:54:01 <riecatnor> i think this would be in the first steps slide
11:54:08 <mleonova> but I def remember adding my interns myself
11:54:08 <riecatnor> slide 9?
11:54:30 <mleonova> 9 makes sense
11:54:36 <riecatnor> i think that seems like a high barrier to entry
11:54:37 <riecatnor> like
11:54:50 <riecatnor> if people want to jump in they should be able to without talking to one of us first
11:54:52 <mleonova> well, you can upload you just can't take the ticket
11:55:09 <riecatnor> got it
11:55:12 <mleonova> no biggie actually
11:55:18 <riecatnor> thats fair
11:55:33 <riecatnor> and slide 17 looks fine
11:55:39 <mleonova> yup
11:55:55 <riecatnor> so i need to run unfortunately
11:56:00 <riecatnor> but this has been very productive
11:56:04 <riecatnor> i want to divide labor
11:56:11 <mleonova> np, go ahead =)
11:56:13 <riecatnor> can we do that via telegram a little bit later?
11:56:24 <mleonova> divide and conquer =)
11:56:29 <mleonova> sure thing, I'm around
11:56:37 <riecatnor> ok i will text you on telegram
11:56:40 <mleonova> cool!
11:56:44 <riecatnor> great work team!!!
11:56:47 <mleonova> thanks, riecatnor !!
11:56:47 <riecatnor> oh wait!!!
11:56:50 <riecatnor> another thing -
11:56:54 <mleonova> aha
11:57:16 <riecatnor> a2batic: hi! is your library ready to go? would you like us to incorporate this into our presentation?
11:57:20 <riecatnor> please email me :)
11:57:32 <mleonova> =)
11:57:38 <riecatnor> thats it :)
11:57:44 <riecatnor> ttys mleonova, you rock!
11:57:46 <mleonova> \o/
11:57:49 <riecatnor> #endmeeting