15:30:10 <davdunc[m> #startmeeting fedora_cloud_meeting
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15:30:15 <jdoss> .hello
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15:30:21 <jdoss> .hi
15:30:22 <zodbot> jdoss: jdoss 'Joe Doss' <joe@solidadmin.com>
15:30:28 <davdunc[m> #topic roll call
15:30:32 <mhayden> .hi
15:30:33 <zodbot> mhayden: mhayden 'Major Hayden' <mhayden@redhat.com>
15:30:34 <jdoss> I can only stay for 20ish
15:30:44 <davdunc[m> jdoss: that's all we have really.
15:30:48 <mhayden> 👋🏻
15:30:51 <davdunc[m> #topic roll call
15:30:58 <jdoss> Whats up Major
15:31:06 <davdunc[m> #chair mhayden jdoss
15:31:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: davdunc[m jdoss mhayden
15:31:17 <mhayden> howdy jdoss! happy new year to everyone.
15:31:32 <jdoss> Same to you bud.
15:32:42 <davdunc[m> alright.
15:32:52 <davdunc[m> I am going to move to action items.
15:32:53 <dustymabe> .hi
15:32:54 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dusty@dustymabe.com>
15:33:07 <davdunc[m> #chair dustymabe
15:33:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: davdunc[m dustymabe jdoss mhayden
15:33:13 <Eighth_Doctor> .hello ngompa
15:33:14 <zodbot> Eighth_Doctor: ngompa 'Neal Gompa' <ngompa13@gmail.com>
15:33:25 <davdunc[m> #chair Conan_Kudo
15:33:25 <zodbot> Current chairs: Conan_Kudo davdunc[m dustymabe jdoss mhayden
15:33:25 <jdoss> Heck yeah Dusty and Neal
15:33:40 <davdunc[m> okay.
15:33:54 <davdunc[m> #topic Action items from last meeting
15:34:17 <mhayden> our action items are so last year 😉
15:34:23 <jdoss> lol
15:34:43 <Eighth_Doctor> 😆
15:34:53 <davdunc[m> create a tracking ticket (if one doesn't already exist) and
15:34:53 <davdunc[m> lead up efforts to re-instate Cloud as an edition
15:35:03 <davdunc[m> that's  the first one we should discuss.
15:35:31 <davdunc[m> mhayden: we discussed this in mid november.
15:36:01 <davdunc[m> do you want to handle creating the tracking ticket?
15:36:07 <mhayden> yup, i remember -- we took a vote on it if i remember correctly
15:36:28 <mhayden> sure, is this in a BZ or a different type of tracking ticket?
15:36:55 <davdunc[m> i don't remember what we decided, but we need one in the cloud-sig for tracking anyway.
15:37:53 <davdunc[m> let's just get that done first and call that the action from last meeting and track our progress there.
15:37:53 <mhayden> ah, now i remember -- in here? https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issues
15:38:11 <davdunc[m> That's the best place to start, I think.
15:38:56 <mhayden> #action mhayden to make a tracking ticket for re-instating cloud as a fedora edition over at https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issues
15:39:22 <davdunc[m> anyone think we need to start somewhere different or follow up immediately somewhere? I think we just need to outline our planning and build our documents out with this as our tracking ticket.
15:39:45 <davdunc[m> thanks mhayden let's hit the next one.
15:40:03 <davdunc[m> davdunc to follow up with jdoss on driving the adoption of ignition
15:40:03 <davdunc[m> along with cloud-init
15:40:12 <davdunc[m> jdoss didn't hear from me. we holiday'ed.
15:40:22 <davdunc[m> so that's still an action item.
15:40:36 <davdunc[m> #action davdunc to follow up with jdoss on driving the adoption of ignition
15:40:36 <davdunc[m> along with cloud-init
15:41:01 <davdunc[m> but that's something we should review in open floor later related to networking.
15:41:07 <davdunc[m> okay.
15:41:39 <davdunc[m> #topic 358 F35 not published to fedora-cloud on GCE
15:41:49 <davdunc[m> #link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/358
15:42:05 <davdunc[m> I think that we have this one pretty much contained, but it's not automated.
15:42:29 <davdunc[m> eric reached out and dustymabe made us a video for the upload process.
15:43:05 <dustymabe> yep
15:43:12 <dustymabe> I think I linked the video too
15:43:27 <davdunc[m> mhayden and I discussed the work around the gcloud tools this morning. It looks like we aren't going to have those in a simple package in the short-term.
15:43:31 <davdunc[m> dustymabe: you did.
15:43:41 <davdunc[m> dustymabe ++
15:43:49 <mhayden> if anyone has a contact in the land of google (especially on the developer/sdk side), i'd love to reach out to them.
15:44:05 <mhayden> i've been hitting dead ends so far via github + email 😢
15:44:12 <dustymabe> I assume we could ask eric/zac (assuming he is still there)
15:44:13 <davdunc[m> mhayden: the ticket was opened by one of the google engineers.
15:44:19 <davdunc[m> we should be able to hit him up.
15:44:41 <mhayden> davdunc[m: oh, i was talking about the SDK packaging, not the image itself, but that might be a good person to ask nonetheless
15:44:55 <davdunc[m> yea let's try and see who ericedens can get us too.
15:45:01 <dustymabe> yeah they can point us in the right direction
15:45:04 <davdunc[m> yea the gcloud stuff is necessary for the upload.
15:45:24 <davdunc[m> so it's tied together for the automation -- at least i think it is.
15:45:33 <mhayden> 👍🏻
15:45:41 <davdunc[m> okay.
15:46:00 <mhayden> #action mhayden to talk to ericedens about packaging the google-cloud-sdk 📦
15:46:07 <jdoss> Sorry, in two meetings davdunc[m I still want to explore getting ignition support
15:46:39 <davdunc[m> jdoss: yes jdoss I think it's an important discussion/action
15:47:21 <davdunc[m> sooner rather than later.
15:47:51 <davdunc[m> Alright. For the google cloud stuff. On this topic, I don't see the automation happening until we have the gcloud pakcaging sorted.
15:48:03 <davdunc[m> (we might be able to use libcloud)
15:48:35 <davdunc[m> let's look at how eric can help us there.
15:48:50 <davdunc[m> #action davdunc to look at image upload using libcloud
15:48:58 <dustymabe> ehh
15:49:19 <davdunc[m> I spent some time doing a 2 to 3 conversion on fedimg over the holiday. it wasn't difficult and it is necessary to use the latest libcloud.
15:49:40 <dustymabe> I thought we had decided to go with kiwi OR ore for thi
15:49:41 <davdunc[m> dustymabe say more.
15:49:42 <dustymabe> this*
15:49:50 <davdunc[m> oh yea.
15:50:00 <jdoss> ore is what FCOS uses right?
15:50:00 <dustymabe> I don't know if kiwi requires `gcloud` cli to be installed, but I know `ore` doesn't
15:50:07 <dustymabe> correct
15:50:27 * mhayden has pushed send on the email to eric @ google
15:50:38 <davdunc[m> 👍️
15:50:59 <mhayden> i promised him cookies and that davdunc[m was buying 🍪
15:51:01 <davdunc[m> Conan Kudo: do you know if the gcloud cli is required for kiwi?
15:51:11 <davdunc[m> haha. It wouldn't be the first time!
15:51:25 <davdunc[m> he is awesome!
15:51:49 <davdunc[m> okay. I think we have a plan of action here.
15:52:19 <jdoss> I gotta bounce later folks
15:52:22 <davdunc[m> we need to determine the gcloud cli distribution model and then make a decision based on that.
15:52:24 <Eighth_Doctor> davdunc: it is not, but we'll need it for uploading images
15:52:25 <davdunc[m> jdoss thanks!
15:52:29 <mhayden> 👋🏻 bye jdoss
15:52:46 <davdunc[m> Conan Kudo: that's what I figured.
15:52:56 <mhayden> for what it's worth, i have lots of pieces of the SDK for Google Cloud packaged (python) that gcloud needs
15:53:04 <davdunc[m> jdoss: I'll get with you tomorrow or monday on the ignition piece.
15:53:05 <mhayden> still some reviews remaining (about 8)
15:53:39 <davdunc[m> mhayden: if we have what we need to automate the upload, that might be enough.
15:53:52 <davdunc[m> if the python components are sufficient that is.
15:54:08 <mhayden> ah good point -- i am happy to prioritize the packaging work for whichever SDKs are needed for that
15:54:46 <davdunc[m> but regardless, we know we still need discovery and planning for the automation. The next topic should cover what we need  for the interim.
15:55:14 <davdunc[m> #topic 357 create a release checklist
15:55:15 <mhayden> woot
15:55:26 <davdunc[m> #link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/357
15:55:58 <davdunc[m> :) So we need to have a definitive release checklist so we can pat each other on the back because it's done and we don't have anything left to complete. :D
15:56:53 <davdunc[m> I think that we should use the wiki for now to put that together.
15:56:59 <mhayden> seems reasonable
15:57:53 <mhayden> i have a video meeting starting at the top of the hour
15:58:16 <davdunc[m> mhayden: thanks for being here.
15:58:23 <mhayden> anytime 😉
15:58:27 <davdunc[m> I started the meeting late, so we should wrap up here.
15:58:37 <davdunc[m> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG is where I'll start the checklist.
15:58:53 <davdunc[m> then we will move it to the appropriate location when it is completedd.
15:59:12 <davdunc[m> #action davdunc to create the wiki checklist at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG
15:59:15 <davdunc[m> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG
15:59:22 <davdunc[m> #open floor
15:59:30 <davdunc[m> #topic open floor
15:59:59 <davdunc[m> we are out of time, so just want to make this a point where we can say anything that needs to be in the next meeting.
16:00:29 <davdunc[m> anyone have anything hot.
16:00:37 <davdunc[m> there is the change in networking
16:01:01 <davdunc[m> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoIfcfgFiles
16:01:19 <davdunc[m> I think we need to be reviewing this and it is directly related to the ignition initiative.
16:01:39 <davdunc[m> so let's keep chatting on this on the mailing list and irc as we can.
16:02:04 <davdunc[m> okay. I'll end there one minute over.
16:02:11 <davdunc[m> #endmeeting