15:09:47 #startmeeting fedora_cloud_meeting 15:09:47 Meeting started Thu Jul 20 15:09:47 2023 UTC. 15:09:47 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:09:47 The chair is davdunc[m. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 15:09:47 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:09:47 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_cloud_meeting' 15:10:01 #topic roll call 15:11:27 jdoss 15:11:32 fsck 15:11:34 .hi jdoss 15:11:36 jdoss: jdoss 'Joe Doss' 15:12:08 #chair jdoss 15:12:08 Current chairs: davdunc[m jdoss 15:12:18 .hello ngompa 15:12:19 Eighth_Doctor: ngompa 'Neal Gompa' 15:12:28 hello friends 15:12:33 #chair Conan Kudo 15:12:33 Current chairs: Conan Kudo davdunc[m jdoss 15:12:45 #chair jdoss 15:12:45 Current chairs: Conan Kudo davdunc[m jdoss 15:12:47 try #chair Eighth_Doctor 15:13:28 #chair Eighth_Doctor 15:13:28 Current chairs: Conan Eighth_Doctor Kudo davdunc[m jdoss 15:13:39 #unchair Conan Kudo 15:13:39 Current chairs: Eighth_Doctor davdunc[m jdoss 15:13:48 thanks you Doctor. 15:14:01 #chair themayor 15:14:01 Current chairs: Eighth_Doctor davdunc[m jdoss themayor 15:14:07 I know you are here. 15:14:20 He's always watching 15:14:41 chairs are good. i like chairs. i like sitting 15:16:03 still logging into pagure. 15:16:45 something is wrong with our server infra the last few days 15:16:49 SSO has been stalling out for me a lot lately :/ 15:17:53 I wish my problem was related to that. 15:18:16 luckily, we have a lot of open issues. 15:18:46 now pagure is moving slowly for me. 15:18:59 .hi 15:19:00 dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' 15:19:02 After 2 years in FCOS land, I actually had to fire up a Fedora Cloud Vagrant to do some testing and it was wonderful 15:19:20 this week that is. 15:19:59 jdoss: I am glad to hear that! I test it quite a lot. I even bought a laptop just for testing with the VB. 15:21:01 Cheap one obviously, but still works for testing. :) 15:21:17 still waiting on the issues to open up. 15:22:07 #topic Action items from last meeting 15:24:09 davdunc to finish the change proposal for the gvnic this week.... (full message at ) 15:24:39 okay. so we are still working on all of these. 15:24:53 probably just need to reaction all of them. 15:26:16 #action mhayden to get azure images building somehow without making releng upset 15:26:27 lol 15:26:48 jdoss: I know. 15:27:24 Summit, then operations review and planning, just ate my time budget. 15:28:09 yes, do we have a general timeframe for when we can have the azure images officially available? 15:28:12 #action @davdunc[m to prototype the Ansible upload for Azure and the delete for images 15:28:45 stream images are already being uploaded/updated and RH and MSFT are waiting for the Fedora images to be able to put out some joint marketing stuff 15:28:58 they are?! 15:29:04 themayor: I can work on an estimated completion date with Major, but it should not take long. We have all the pieces. 15:29:22 Eighth_Doctor: they are 15:29:25 yea. kola is already uploading. 15:29:46 oh snap we are using kola for that stuff now? 15:29:49 * Eighth_Doctor is wondering where the CentOS Azure images are being made 15:30:04 bstinson knows 15:30:15 :) I am sure he does. 15:30:39 Conan Kudo: if we push the kiwi process, we could be done. 15:30:47 yup 15:30:56 anyway, if we could get some firm dates i know more than a few people would be VERY happy to just be able to close that part of the loop 15:31:12 there's some work upstream I'm depending on for Fedora Cloud kiwi stuff 15:31:16 but we're getting really close 15:31:29 maybe we can do a hackfest? 15:31:39 sure! 15:31:45 #link https://github.com/OSInside/kiwi/pull/2324 15:32:05 this was discovered by Davide Cavalca from Fedora Asahi work and upstream is working on fixing it 15:33:03 okay. cool. 15:33:47 davdunc[m: lets try and figure out some firm dates that we can at least communicate ;) 15:34:09 we should probably request that the Fedora staging koji get kiwi enabled 15:34:30 (and I guess the prod koji too) 15:34:38 I'll gladly make a hard date right now for getting the first round of images out manually. 15:35:23 We can get that done by the 30th. mhayden and I both have access, we can get this completed even if it isn't automated. 15:35:59 I would rather have the automation, but I am ready to see Fedora in the Azure Marketplace more. 15:36:33 Conan Kudo: we can make it part of the same hackfest so that we have the config built for the image build with consistency. 15:36:45 sounds like a plan 15:37:08 our first kiwi-based image will probably be the WSL image 15:37:32 #action davdunc to build images during the kiwi hackfest - completion date is before July 30th. 15:38:19 #link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/408 15:38:25 #action Conan Kudo and davdunc to schedule a fedora-cloud hackfest for kiwi and Azure image. 15:38:28 thanks. that sounds good 15:38:55 okay. We'll work on ensuring that we have what you need in place by end of the month. 15:38:56 lol, i suppose WSL would be next. I would love to have that one too :) 15:39:00 (not a meeting topic, but just a pointer to it) 15:39:02 thanks davdunc[m 15:39:07 what we need. 15:39:17 +1 15:39:25 well, it's nice because no other tool we have can make WSL images :) 15:40:01 I would love to have that for myself. ;) 15:40:39 there's a bit of a... debate about what we'll move Fedora Cloud's artifacts to because of .... reasons 15:40:39 #link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/407 15:40:48 but one thing is for certain, we're not keeping our existing tooling, because I hate it 15:41:25 Tell us more Neal 15:42:00 or just DM me a rant. I got a full pot of coffee. 15:42:17 are you coming to Flock? 15:43:01 I wish I was but this summer is packed. 15:43:13 jdoss: I hear you. 15:43:33 every time I turn around, there is another requirement on my summer days. 15:43:53 davdunc[m: do you want a few more? 15:44:23 dustymabe: you have enough for both of us! 15:44:38 #chair dustymabe 15:44:38 Current chairs: Eighth_Doctor davdunc[m dustymabe jdoss themayor 15:45:10 okay - so we have a plan for the azure images and 15 more minutes. 15:45:23 is there a topic we need to cover immediately? 15:45:36 OCI image publishing? 15:45:39 did you all already implement all of the AMI proposed changes? 15:45:56 dustymabe: 15:45:58 we did. 15:46:07 https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1502 15:46:21 ok so we should be able to go ahead and implement them in FCOS too 15:46:23 the updates to the configurations have been updated. 15:46:43 the redundancy has been stated redundantly. 15:46:48 #topic Publishing cloud images to Oracle Cloud 15:46:52 #link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/400 15:47:01 Larry Cloud!! 15:47:12 We can do that with Image builder and kiwi. 15:47:16 People keep asking for this primarily because of the very generous free tier 15:47:27 well, I would love for them to have it. 15:47:29 apparently our existing GenericCloud images are mostly sufficient 15:47:49 so we just need to have an upload path 15:47:49 Is there an agent we need besides cloud-init? 15:47:59 not that I'm aware of 15:48:03 I don't really have any experience here. 15:48:12 neither do I 15:48:22 mhayden has also packaged up the OCI SDK and CLI 15:48:24 okay. so we need account access and some instructions. 15:48:30 so we can now interface programmatically with Oracle Cloud 15:48:37 yes. That's going to make it that much easier. 15:49:31 so if we're doing ansible-based image uploads, we might be able to "just do it" with OCI with not much effort 15:49:55 I like that the best. 15:50:14 #action build the oci upload module for the fedora-cloud collection for ansible. 15:50:35 literally still waiting for pagure to open. 15:51:12 it's working for me, so it might be a network issue for you 15:51:24 might be. I am on corp vpn. 15:51:30 that'd do it 15:52:21 it's a new issue. I'll see what I can do about that. 15:52:23 okay. 15:52:55 So Oracle issue will need assistance from infra or dustymabe may have the details on what we need for credentials. 15:53:30 #action davdunc to locate credentials for the upload and testing for OCI images. 15:54:00 if we need any help with the OCI stuff, I know someone from Ampere who has built other images for OCI and can help if we need any asssitance 15:54:04 Anything else pressing that you can see Conan Kudo since you can open the issues? 15:54:31 looking 15:54:34 themayor: we are always willing to have help! 15:54:52 I don't see anything pressing 15:54:58 even if it just comes in the form of "advice" from a road-weary traveler. 15:55:02 there are definitely things tagged for meeting to discuss, but nothing immediate 15:55:29 davdunc[m: ill send an email intro 15:55:45 themayor: I'll dance at your wedding. 15:56:06 okay 15:56:14 #topic Open floor 15:56:37 #info Flock is coming up fast. Hope to see you ther. 15:58:02 Anything else pressing? 15:58:03 I am going to end the meeting on time for once then. 15:58:03 #endmeeting