19:00:17 <roshi> #startmeeting Fedora Cloud WG 19:00:17 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov 12 19:00:17 2014 UTC. The chair is roshi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:17 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:27 <roshi> #meetingname Fedora Cloud WG 19:00:27 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_cloud_wg' 19:00:48 <jzb> .hellomynameis jzb 19:00:48 <zodbot> jzb: jzb 'Joe Brockmeier' <jzb@redhat.com> 19:00:51 <roshi> #topic Roll Call 19:00:57 <roshi> .hello roshi 19:01:00 <zodbot> roshi: roshi 'Mike Ruckman' <mruckman@redhat.com> 19:01:00 <janeznemanic> hi guys 19:01:17 <roshi> hey janeznemanic :) 19:01:59 <roshi> kushal: you here? 19:02:17 <kushal> .hellomynameis kushal 19:02:18 <zodbot> kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' <kushaldas@gmail.com> 19:02:26 <kushal> roshi, thanks for the ping 19:02:31 <roshi> np 19:02:45 <oddshocks> .hellomynameis oddshocks 19:02:46 <zodbot> oddshocks: oddshocks 'David Gay' <dgay@redhat.com> 19:03:37 <roshi> well, I suppose we can get started 19:03:43 <roshi> perhaps others will trickle in... 19:03:55 <roshi> #topic Previous Meeting follow-up 19:04:05 <roshi> * kushal will keep an eye to verify actual release images on the mirrors 19:04:05 <roshi> * jzb to file rel-eng ticket for missing images 19:04:14 * roshi left one out since it's in a ticket 19:04:50 <kushal> I will be monitoring it :) 19:05:08 <roshi> sweet :) 19:05:10 <roshi> jzb: ? 19:05:12 <jzb> we do not have a release on the mirrors but are making significant progress on images. 19:05:19 <roshi> good to hear 19:05:21 <jzb> see: 19:05:28 <jzb> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6034 19:06:12 <roshi> #info Progress is being made on the images getting built 19:06:22 <roshi> anything else for followup? or jump to tickets? 19:07:00 * roshi moves onto the tickets 19:07:03 <roshi> #topic Atomic Testday (#74) 19:07:05 * dustymabe slinks in 19:07:07 <roshi> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/74 19:07:12 <roshi> welcome dustymabe :) 19:07:12 <dustymabe> sorry I got held up 19:07:16 <roshi> no worries 19:07:33 <jzb> I sent out an update to the cloud list last night 19:07:39 <dustymabe> jzb: yep I saw it. Thanks for the update 19:07:42 <jzb> but totally neglected to update the ticket 19:07:42 <roshi> and I've updated fedocal 19:07:46 <jzb> mea culpa 19:07:55 <dustymabe> jzb: so we should promote next thursday? 19:08:14 <roshi> yeah 19:08:28 <roshi> jzb: do you have time to write something up for the magazine or should I do it? 19:08:41 <roshi> mattdm: could you put this in the next 5 things in fedora post? 19:08:47 <jzb> roshi: I'll get it 19:08:49 <jzb> dustymabe: yes 19:08:56 <roshi> sounds good 19:09:03 <roshi> let me know if you get swamped or something :) 19:09:39 <dustymabe> jzb: I already took off this thursday. but I am going to try to flesh out some test material for people to follow for next thursday 19:09:40 <jzb> roshi: well... 19:09:54 <dustymabe> jzb: in case we have people who want to help and don't have a lot of experience with atomic yet 19:10:10 <jzb> dustymabe: that would be everybody 19:10:17 <mattdm> roshi yes I will 19:10:22 <roshi> yeah, I don't have experience with atomic 19:10:33 <roshi> or much with docker, but I'm working on that bit :) 19:10:42 <roshi> thanks mattdm :) 19:10:48 <dustymabe> jzb: :) - ok. I'm hoping my material helps then! 19:10:52 <jzb> dustymabe: test material would be awesome. 19:11:19 <mattdm> maybe this went by already, but we're still working on getting a compose to actually test 19:11:27 <roshi> looks like we're good for this ticket, we can close it after the testday 19:11:28 <kushal> jzb, yes 19:11:46 <jzb> kushal: what was the question? 19:11:48 <roshi> yeah, jzb emailed the list - hopefully things are good to go by thursday 19:12:02 <kushal> jzb, I should have used +1 :) 19:12:11 <mattdm> presumably we'll have something tonight, and we'll ask oddshocks to upload that to ec2 too 19:12:19 <roshi> sounds like a plan 19:13:30 * jsmith shows up late :-( 19:13:45 <roshi> next ticket then? 19:14:00 * oddshocks nods 19:14:05 <roshi> #topic State of Cloud article 19:14:09 <roshi> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/75 19:14:16 <roshi> #topic State of Cloud article (#75) 19:14:36 <roshi> this to go live once the image bit is sorted out? 19:14:44 <jzb> roshi: yeah 19:15:17 <roshi> anyone have anything else for this? 19:15:23 <roshi> if not I'll move on.... 19:16:13 <roshi> #topic Publicize fedora-dockerfiles (#84) 19:16:16 <roshi> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/84 19:16:38 <roshi> is this talking about the Final Release announcement? 19:17:19 <dustymabe> roshi: I'm not sure 19:17:25 <roshi> once I finally drill down into docker and atomic I hope to be able to help more with this 19:17:39 <jzb> roshi: I think mattdm means more generally + final 19:17:55 <jzb> we probably need to work the Dockerfiles into the cloud page too 19:17:56 <dustymabe> generally we could each promote on twitter/blogs 19:17:57 <kushal> roshi, things like blog posts and articles 19:18:07 <roshi> yeah, that was clear to me 19:18:22 <roshi> but the second comment mentioned release notes, so I was wondering which release notes 19:18:56 <roshi> having some nice means of testing a more complex dockerfiles setup could be useful for verifying the docker and atomic images 19:19:01 <roshi> kill two birds with one stone 19:19:13 <mattdm> roshi definitely! 19:19:14 <dustymabe> one thing that would be nice is to promote these once the dockerfiles themselves start using the "official" fedora21 base docker image 19:19:34 <roshi> (proverbial birds, of course "NO BIRDS WERE HARMED IN THE MAKING OF THIS DISTRO.") 19:19:45 <kushal> haha 19:20:08 <roshi> yeah 19:20:19 <dustymabe> should I add that to the ticket? 19:20:24 <dustymabe> add that comment 19:20:31 <roshi> with the birds? 19:20:43 <dustymabe> no.. about the official fedora 21 docker image 19:20:48 <roshi> :p 19:20:52 <roshi> sure 19:20:58 <dustymabe> ok.. i'll ask 19:21:01 <roshi> more info on the ticket can't be a bad thing I don't think 19:22:32 <roshi> anything else for this? 19:23:06 <roshi> #topic Upload Criteria (#80) 19:23:11 <roshi> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/80 19:23:44 <roshi> I haven't proposed this yet 19:23:59 <roshi> #action roshi to email test@ list regarding the new criteria 19:24:27 <roshi> once I email the list, is a post to cloud@ with a pointer to the discussion good enough for you guys to follow? 19:24:33 <roshi> or should I cross post it? 19:24:50 <jzb> roshi: cross post to...where? 19:24:59 <roshi> from test@ to cloud@ 19:25:00 <jzb> roshi: oh, a pointer should be fine 19:25:07 <jzb> hm. Wait. 19:25:18 <jzb> most of cloud is probably not on test. 19:25:28 <roshi> in case other cloud members wanted to comment in the discussion 19:25:34 <roshi> since QA handles the criteria 19:26:11 <roshi> could also point both lists to the ticket and try to have the discussion there 19:27:08 <jzb> roshi: +1 19:27:20 <roshi> discussion on ticket then? 19:27:24 <jzb> roshi: given past discussions - I also recommend setting a hard deadline for comments. 19:27:27 <jzb> roshi: yeah 19:27:35 * oddshocks is on cloud and pays close attention, but is not on test 19:27:55 <jzb> people are generally pulled in 1m directions so if they don't see something obviously needing their input, they may fail to say +1 or anything 19:28:09 <roshi> a fair point 19:28:29 <roshi> #action roshi to point discussion to the trac instance for both test@ and cloud@ 19:28:58 <roshi> #topic OpenShift Commons (#83) 19:29:01 <roshi> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/83 19:29:08 * roshi hasn't been tracking this one 19:30:09 <dustymabe> there was discussion last week 19:30:18 <dustymabe> kushal: do you recall? 19:30:27 <kushal> yes 19:30:44 <kushal> dustymabe, board is supposed to do something for this. 19:30:47 <dustymabe> did anyone hear anything back from pythondj 19:30:54 <jzb> no 19:31:16 <kushal> dustymabe, I do not have any other update on that. 19:31:16 <jzb> at least, I reached out separately and heard nothing back except "will be in touch after OpenStack Summit" 19:31:34 <dustymabe> cool 19:34:08 <roshi> this one good as is? 19:34:21 <dustymabe> roshi: I think so 19:35:17 <roshi> sounds good 19:35:21 <roshi> #topic Open Floor 19:35:30 <kushal> I have some 19:36:09 <kushal> I was in talk with lsm5 for the docker image release. We now have Fedora21 beta docker images released. 19:36:32 <roshi> good to hear 19:36:47 <kushal> #link https://github.com/docker-library/official-images/pull/313 19:36:58 <jzb> kushal: hooray! 19:37:10 <jsmith> That's great news... 19:37:28 <roshi> :) 19:37:46 <jzb> kushal: I'll put up a Fedora Magazine post on that unless you want to. 19:37:52 <kushal> I am working with lsm5 so that we can formalize the fedora docker releases. 19:38:04 <roshi> awesome 19:38:15 <kushal> jzb, I will work on one then, should be my first post :D 19:38:17 <jzb> kushal: oh - is it up on the hub ? 19:38:22 <jzb> kushal: groovy 19:38:29 <kushal> jzb, should be by now. 19:39:14 <kushal> EOF from me. 19:39:18 <dustymabe> cool 19:39:20 <dustymabe> I have something 19:39:50 <dustymabe> I have been working with DO. We have an image booting but provisioning via cloud-init is not working right now. 19:40:21 <roshi> sweet 19:40:21 <jzb> dustymabe: DO? 19:40:25 <roshi> digital ocean 19:40:29 <jzb> ah 19:40:37 * roshi has been really happy with them 19:40:50 <roshi> my irssi server is on a DO droplet :) 19:40:59 <roshi> it's how I'm always connected 19:41:09 <dustymabe> still working with them to get something working and also getting a process in place (still manual, but scripted) to convert our image we put out into something they can easily consume 19:41:34 <dustymabe> eventually they will have automatic uploading/etc.. 19:41:37 <roshi> perhaps off topic, but what customizations do they need? 19:41:48 <oddshocks> so weird you mentioned DO at the same time I did in #fedora-cloud 19:41:56 * oddshocks setting up his first droplet now 19:42:29 <dustymabe> roshi: I still don't know them all but one example is they assume DOROOT to be the lable on the root filesystem 19:42:48 <dustymabe> obviously they are used to making their own images themselves 19:42:58 <dustymabe> perhaps we can help them become more flexible 19:43:11 <dustymabe> s/lable/label/ 19:43:17 <roshi> ah, interesting 19:43:23 <roshi> that's not hard to fix at least 19:43:30 <roshi> yeah, that would be good :) 19:43:43 <dustymabe> roshi: agreed.. there are more that I am learning about today probably. 19:43:55 <roshi> cool 19:44:31 * oddshocks is curious if we have any process started now to talk to DO about a deal/partnership of some sort for fedora, as we are with... HP was it? 19:44:59 <dustymabe> oddshocks: what would be the nature of the deal/partnership? 19:45:04 <dustymabe> promote each other? 19:45:11 <dustymabe> or actually involving money? 19:45:31 <oddshocks> dustymabe: involving less money, rather ;) 19:45:52 <roshi> a thing I thought of, was if they give us access to their infra for testing images, we could handle the fedora image testing for them 19:45:52 <oddshocks> idk we can talk about this later. I don't know all the details. I think rackspace and GCE were higher priority anyway 19:46:00 <oddshocks> roshi: thank you 19:46:02 * jzb has one tiny thing 19:46:06 <oddshocks> dustymabe: that ^ :P 19:46:11 <dustymabe> jzb one sec 19:46:23 <dustymabe> oddshocks: roshi: we actually do have standing offer from DO 19:46:32 <dustymabe> once we create an account they will turn off billing 19:46:33 <roshi> oh cool 19:46:44 <dustymabe> the problem is getting legal to approve the terms of service 19:46:50 <roshi> ah 19:46:54 <oddshocks> dustymabe: oh shoot. well let's talk about that after meeting or later today :) I'm interested in DO 19:46:54 <dustymabe> I'm working on that... 19:46:59 <oddshocks> dustymabe: cool, thanks :D 19:47:04 <dustymabe> mattdm: knows more 19:47:06 <oddshocks> well, that's all I've got 19:47:08 <roshi> we for sure want legals signoff 19:47:11 <dustymabe> jzb: its all you now :) 19:47:21 <jzb> thx 19:47:27 <jzb> so - we need one or more testimonials 19:47:31 <jzb> for the Web site 19:47:34 <jzb> but also in general 19:47:46 <jzb> it'd be nice to put up case studies on Fedora Magazine 19:48:04 <jzb> but we definitely need at least one non-RHT user of Fedora Cloud $something 19:48:22 <jzb> to quote on the site when getfedora launches. 19:48:27 <jzb> anybody have any ideas? 19:48:51 <dustymabe> jzb: individuals? companies? 19:48:54 <dustymabe> both? 19:49:15 <jzb> dustymabe: either a company or a really well-known individual 19:49:23 <oddshocks> I do 19:49:29 <oddshocks> possibly 19:49:49 <dustymabe> mhayden? 19:49:55 <jzb> dustymabe: like, if you could get Patrick Debois or Gene Kim... 19:50:00 <dustymabe> not RHT.. well known 19:50:32 <jzb> dustymabe: Rackspace? 19:50:34 <roshi> what about euca? don't they run fedora stuff? 19:50:44 <oddshocks> Oh yeah an actual provider would be ill 19:51:00 <dustymabe> yeah.. he could probably do a personal testimonial or a joint personal and company one 19:51:09 <dustymabe> not sure though 19:51:31 <jzb> dustymabe: if he can give a "hey, I use Fedora cloud for all my dev/test needs" or something that'd be awesome. 19:51:51 <jzb> it doesn't necessarily have to be "Rackspace endorses this" but if he can say it's in use and we can use his work title... 19:51:55 <jzb> that'd be awesome. 19:51:58 <jzb> if that make sense. 19:52:17 <dustymabe> jzb: yep that makes sense.. he trolls around the fedora irc channels a decent amount 19:52:26 <dustymabe> I could reach out to him in an email as well 19:52:32 <dustymabe> if you'd like 19:52:37 <dustymabe> oddshocks: who did you have? 19:52:38 <jzb> dustymabe: that'd be spiffy thanks 19:54:32 <roshi> that what you needed jzb ? 19:54:38 <oddshocks> dustymabe: My idea wasn't as good :P I like someone from a provider more 19:54:58 <jzb> roshi: yep 19:55:01 <jzb> roshi: thanks! 19:55:35 <dustymabe> well he said we needed multiple.. soo 19:55:45 <dustymabe> leads are good :) 19:56:55 <roshi> np :) 19:57:08 * roshi sets the fuse 19:58:13 <jzb> *boom* 19:58:36 <dustymabe> thanks everyone for coming 19:59:08 <roshi> yeah, thanks! 19:59:13 <roshi> 3... 19:59:14 <janeznemanic> see you 19:59:25 <roshi> 2... 19:59:41 <roshi> 1... 19:59:50 <roshi> #endmeeting