17:00:12 <trishnag> #startmeeting fedora_cloud_wg
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17:00:22 <trishnag> #topic Roll Call
17:00:32 <kushal> .hellomynameis kushal
17:00:33 <zodbot> kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' <mail@kushaldas.in>
17:00:37 <maxamillion> .hello maxamillion
17:00:38 <zodbot> maxamillion: maxamillion 'Adam Miller' <maxamillion@gmail.com>
17:00:39 <trishnag> .hello trishnag
17:00:41 <zodbot> trishnag: trishnag 'Trishna Guha' <trishnaguha17@gmail.com>
17:00:42 <tflink> .hello tflink
17:00:42 <rtnpro> .fas rtnpro
17:00:47 <sayan> .hellomynameis sayanchowdhury
17:00:47 <zodbot> tflink: tflink 'Tim Flink' <tflink@redhat.com>
17:00:50 <zodbot> rtnpro: rtnpro 'Ratnadeep Debnath' <rtnpro@gmail.com>
17:00:53 <zodbot> sayan: sayanchowdhury 'Sayan Chowdhury' <sayan.chowdhury2012@gmail.com>
17:00:58 <vvaldez> .hello vvaldez
17:00:59 <zodbot> vvaldez: vvaldez 'Vinny Valdez' <vvaldez@redhat.com>
17:01:20 <trishnag> #chair kushal rtnpro sayan vvaldez maxamillion tflink jberkus
17:01:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: jberkus kushal maxamillion rtnpro sayan tflink trishnag vvaldez
17:02:06 <trishnag> Should we wait for few minutes?
17:02:21 <kushal> trishnag, yes, let us wait for 1 minute :)
17:02:27 <trishnag> sure :)
17:03:16 <jberkus> .hello jberkus
17:03:17 <zodbot> jberkus: jberkus 'Josh Berkus' <josh@agliodbs.com>
17:03:42 <trishnag> #topic Action items from last meeting
17:03:55 <trishnag> #topic rtnpro will add test workflow (and test cases) for testing fedora-motd on F24 atomic image
17:04:13 <rtnpro> yeah
17:04:14 <ashcrow> .hello smilner
17:04:17 <zodbot> ashcrow: smilner 'None' <smilner@redhat.com>
17:04:22 <bowlofeggs> .hello bowlofcloud
17:04:23 <zodbot> bowlofeggs: Sorry, but you don't exist
17:04:27 <dustymabe> .hello dustymabe
17:04:27 <bowlofeggs> .hello bowlofeggs
17:04:27 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dustymabe@redhat.com>
17:04:30 <zodbot> bowlofeggs: bowlofeggs 'Randy Barlow' <randy@electronsweatshop.com>
17:04:43 <rtnpro> so, I had a fair amount of success to run the test cases manually using tunir
17:04:57 <trishnag> #chair bowlofeggs dustymabe ashcrow
17:04:57 <zodbot> Current chairs: ashcrow bowlofeggs dustymabe jberkus kushal maxamillion rtnpro sayan tflink trishnag vvaldez
17:05:04 <rtnpro> I was also able to find out a way to log the motd messages on SSH login
17:05:25 <rtnpro> however, this will require me to run the test cases remotely on the atomic VM
17:05:50 <rtnpro> currently, tunir does not allow running remote commands on the VM
17:06:16 <rtnpro> I spoke to kushal on that and he has a plan to implement HOST command to support that
17:06:43 <kushal> rtnpro, on another note, can you find that out by sshing into the same box from the vm?
17:06:46 <rtnpro> I've volunteered to work on this tunir feature
17:06:47 <kushal> that will be faster :)
17:06:54 <jbrooks> .hello jasonbrooks
17:06:55 <zodbot> jbrooks: jasonbrooks 'Jason Brooks' <JBROOKS@REDHAT.COM>
17:07:01 <trishnag> #chair jbrooks
17:07:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: ashcrow bowlofeggs dustymabe jberkus jbrooks kushal maxamillion rtnpro sayan tflink trishnag vvaldez
17:07:01 <dustymabe> rtnpro++
17:07:01 <zodbot> dustymabe: Karma for rtnpro changed to 3 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:07:53 <rtnpro> kushal, that will require me to copy the private key file
17:08:12 <kushal> rtnpro, create a temporary key inside the vm
17:08:23 <rtnpro> kushal, yeah, that can be done
17:08:24 <kushal> and copy it to authorized_keys
17:08:35 <rtnpro> kushal, sounds like a work around
17:08:36 <kushal> rtnpro, that we can test it in our current system only
17:08:46 <rtnpro> kushal, cool, sounds like a plan
17:09:15 <rtnpro> so, I will write the test cases and push to git for others to review
17:09:20 <rtnpro> that's all from me
17:09:49 <trishnag> rtnpro: Shall I add it to action item?
17:09:56 <rtnpro> trishnag, yes
17:09:59 <trishnag> okay
17:10:43 <trishnag> #action rtnpro to write testcases for testing fedora-motd on F24 atomic image and push to git for others to review
17:11:10 <trishnag> #topic kushal to test new cloud-init on openstack
17:11:12 <kushal> I could not work on it yesterday, will try to look into it this week.
17:11:24 <kushal> readd the action item
17:11:41 <trishnag> kushal: okay
17:12:25 <trishnag> kushal: I am adding to action again.
17:12:45 <trishnag> #action kushal to test new cloud-init on openstack
17:13:07 <trishnag> #topic jberkus will draft spec for IRC bot for blocker bugs
17:13:23 <jberkus> trishnag: yeah, so there's a ticket for this
17:13:29 <trishnag> yeah let me find it
17:13:53 <jberkus> https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/169
17:14:01 <jberkus> I've only gotten a little bit of feedback on it
17:14:15 <jberkus> I'd like any comments from this team if the essential spec is correct
17:14:55 <kushal> jberkus, 2 points.
17:15:25 <kushal> jberkus, When we say blocker bug, we mean blocker for Atomic 2 Week release, those bugs are different than the blocker bugs for acutal Fedora release.
17:16:04 <kushal> jberkus, so when bugyou file automated bugs, it files for 2WA in pagure, but not in bugzilla.
17:16:26 <kushal> So, we have to make it clear to others.
17:16:33 <jberkus> kushal: ok, can you add that to the ticket?
17:16:40 <kushal> I will, wanted to update here first.
17:16:41 <dustymabe> jberkus: that looks like a good start
17:17:03 <dustymabe> we still need to make sure we have people that are going to track down the issues
17:17:12 <dustymabe> and get them fixed or find someone who can fix them
17:17:13 <kushal> Then do you want to have the bot adding all the current failed bugs in the channel topic? (just a question).
17:17:35 <dustymabe> IMO the bot is only a band-aid
17:17:40 <kushal> yeah
17:17:42 <jberkus> kushal: all the bugs?  no, just the ones that block release
17:18:10 <kushal> sayan, can you please how bugyou handle bugs?
17:18:41 <maxamillion> just as a side note, according to my datagrepper query, there were no successful vagrant libvirt images in the last two weeks which is why we didn't release Two Week Atomic yesterday
17:19:05 <jberkus> yeah, that's exactly the kind of thing which should be in our face ...
17:19:34 <kushal> jberkus, maxamillion yes, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1353688 is the cause
17:19:39 <trishnag> yeah that is because the journal logging issue I guess
17:19:43 <jberkus> maxamillion: I don't see an email to cloud@ about that
17:19:45 <kushal> That is failing our automated tests.
17:19:55 <maxamillion> jberkus: there wasn't one
17:20:04 <maxamillion> jberkus: I forgot
17:20:05 <sayan> bugyou has a autocloud plugin that handle the failed messages
17:20:19 <maxamillion> jberkus: I meant to this morning and got side tracked ... I'll get an email out soon
17:20:34 <jberkus> maxamillion: I was thinking more an automated email ...
17:20:37 <sayan> and the successfull messages and then it updates pagure automatically
17:21:16 <maxamillion> jberkus: we have an automated mail for success ... I'll add a patch to send an automated failure message, this script wasn't meant to have all these features because it was supposed to have been replaced by now but we just keep duct taping things on the side instead
17:21:31 <jberkus> maxamillion: what's holding up the replacement?
17:21:47 <maxamillion> jberkus: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReleaseEngineeringAutomationWorkflowEngine
17:21:50 <jbrooks> On the journal bug, there was this https://pagure.io/fedora-atomic/c/9c4b3cb0e437de9af14d7134a58c5caf04eaa308?branch=f24
17:22:07 <jbrooks> But maybe there hasn't been a new stable pkg, so there hasn't been a new tree made?
17:22:12 <maxamillion> jberkus: it's in flight, but behind schedule because of atomic and osbs taking up so much time
17:22:56 <jbrooks> Only new pkgs from bodhi trigger a new tree compose, as far as I can tell
17:23:31 <jberkus> maxamillion: well, given that I'd say let's defer non-essential changes
17:23:41 <jberkus> including this oje
17:23:43 <jberkus> one
17:23:48 <maxamillion> jberkus: alright
17:24:43 <jberkus> maxamillion: I'll throw together a triage on the wiki?  Kushal, can you help with this?  Or someone else?
17:25:06 <kushal> jberkus, Okay
17:25:57 <jberkus> and in the meantime, if someone could share how we search for failures
17:26:03 <kushal> jberkus, btw, https://github.com/kushaldas/tunirtests/issues/48
17:26:05 <jberkus> a few of us will need to do that manually, every day
17:26:30 <kushal> jberkus, we are asking pagure upstream so that we can send out mails to cloud list on failed automated tests
17:26:37 <kushal> jberkus, meanwhile you can just have a look at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/autocloud/jobs
17:26:42 <jberkus> ok
17:27:06 <maxamillion> jberkus: +1
17:28:37 <trishnag> Should we move forward?
17:28:41 <jberkus> yes
17:28:49 <trishnag> ok
17:29:02 <trishnag> #topic vagrant boxes fixups https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/136
17:29:31 <kushal> jberkus, btw, https://pagure.io/pagure/issue/1258 is the ticket for getting mails in the list
17:30:06 <trishnag> Looks like imcleod is not here.
17:30:21 <dustymabe> yeah i think imcleod has new responsibilities
17:30:30 <dustymabe> if anyone else wants to pick this up that would be great
17:30:35 <kushal> praveenkumar, and lalatenduM is supposed to be the new upstream
17:30:35 <dustymabe> or I guess we can just drop it
17:30:39 <kushal> s/is/are
17:30:49 <dustymabe> yeah, but they are probably swamped as well
17:31:01 <kushal> dustymabe, yes :)
17:31:59 <kushal> trishnag, move ahead please :)
17:32:04 * kushal has two major open floor topics
17:32:04 <trishnag> kushal: okay :)
17:32:09 <trishnag> #topic Don't overwrite download location for 2 week atomic images https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/147
17:32:22 <trishnag> dustymabe: This is for you.
17:33:38 <jberkus> kushal: is that ticket targeting the new infra, or the old?
17:34:18 <kushal> jberkus, that is to send out mails for failed tests in autocloud, bugyou files/comments on pagure for fails
17:34:30 <jberkus> ah, it's a paguire issue. ok
17:34:32 <maxamillion> trishnag: that's on me, I have a pull request in and it's merged ... we should be able to close that ticket next successful release of Atomic
17:34:48 <maxamillion> Two-Week Atomic Host *
17:35:00 <trishnag> maxamillion: okay Thanks
17:35:17 <jbrooks> kushal, it'd be nice to have it hooked up to fedora notifications, autocloud, that is -- unless I'm just missing it?
17:35:38 <jbrooks> maxamillion, awesome
17:35:55 <trishnag> #topic design, deploy and document Fedora OpenShift Playground (FOSP) https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/153
17:36:01 <kushal> jbrooks, it is hooked into fedmsg (if you are asking about that), after meeting sayan will help you out with that.
17:36:22 <trishnag> jberkus: this one is for you :)
17:36:23 <jbrooks> kushal, ok, I'll ping, I'm just not seeing it in the list of rules
17:36:24 <jberkus> trishnag: scollier isn't here, and i have no updates on that due to ContainerCon
17:36:47 <jberkus> I'll have to follow up with scollier offline and find out where we are; there was a blocker, but not sure if it got resolved
17:37:13 <trishnag> jberkus: okay
17:37:32 <jdetiber> jberkus: if the blocker is install related and not hardware/infra, let me know how I can help unblock
17:37:44 <jberkus> jdetiber: thanks!
17:38:11 <trishnag> okay moving to next
17:38:16 <trishnag> #topic make Fedora Atomic download page clearer https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/154
17:38:29 <kushal> On this topic.
17:38:56 <kushal> robyduck from the websites team needs to know when do we want to move to atomic as the default WG download page.
17:39:06 <kushal> So that all the improvements can go in there,.
17:39:28 <kushal> jberkus, we also have mizmo here, she can answer our queries related to design.
17:39:29 <jberkus> we do, don't we?
17:39:39 * mizmo waves
17:40:27 <kushal> jberkus, Yes, we do.
17:40:28 * dustymabe waves
17:40:56 <kushal> jberkus, but there has to be new work done to have a persistent URL for 2WA download URL
17:40:57 <kushal> etc
17:41:04 <kushal> So, they need a plan for us.
17:41:06 <jberkus> 2WA?
17:41:11 <dustymabe> 2 week atomic
17:41:13 <kushal> 2 Week Atomic
17:41:16 <jberkus> ah, ok
17:41:27 <kushal> jberkus, sorry for the short form.
17:41:30 <jberkus> so, I know what I want to see from a user perspective, but I don't know the technical requirements
17:41:37 <jberkus> who does?
17:42:18 <kushal> jberkus, there is a thread currently in the websites list
17:42:35 <kushal> jberkus, also about making the page clear, you can talk to mizmo about your ideas.
17:43:14 * mizmo really needs copy for the new site
17:43:14 <mizmo> eg
17:43:15 <mizmo> https://github.com/fedoradesign/nextweb-assets/blob/master/Mockups/Brochure%20Site/brochure-mock-atomic_WIP.png
17:43:24 <mizmo> "$CHANGEME" hehe
17:44:41 <jberkus> mizmo: hmmm, can we talk about this later?
17:44:51 <jberkus> mizmo: set up a chat or something?
17:44:59 <mizmo> jberkus, sure
17:45:53 <trishnag> okay moving to the next topic
17:46:01 <trishnag> #topic Decide on post-GA update cadence for various deliverables https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/155
17:46:21 <mizmo> wait so no plan for websites?
17:46:46 <trishnag> Sorry mizmo
17:46:52 <trishnag> #topic make Fedora Atomic download page clearer https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/154
17:46:57 <jberkus> mizmo: next step is to have a content discussion
17:47:03 <jberkus> mizmo: what TZ are you?
17:47:10 <mizmo> i think the schedule discussion has to happen independent of that
17:47:27 <mizmo> bc if you guys want it for f25 ga theres not a whole lot of time
17:47:34 <jberkus> ah, ok
17:47:49 <mizmo> im east coast but robyduck who is the websites lead is in europe (rome i think)
17:47:53 <jberkus> mizmo: how's your availability today?
17:48:03 <jberkus> or does he need to be included?
17:48:12 <kushal> trishnag, no update on this I guess, we can move on.
17:48:13 <mizmo> im free after 3
17:48:23 <mizmo> he should be included for scheduling but for content im sufficient
17:48:26 <trishnag> kushal: okay
17:49:46 <trishnag> #topic Need complete Kickstart docs for Atomic Host https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/156
17:50:09 <trishnag> jberkus: update on this?
17:50:16 <jberkus> trishnag: in review right now
17:50:22 <trishnag> jberkus: cool
17:50:26 <jberkus> I need to make some technical changes and retest
17:50:55 <kushal> jberkus, can I pass the whole network config (static) in that kickstart file?
17:51:05 <kushal> Then I can actually use it.
17:51:18 <jberkus> kushal: not sure; that's beyond my experience.  dustymabe ?
17:51:50 * lalatenduM reading the logs
17:51:58 <jberkus> kushal: somehow you'd need a network to get the KS file in the first place
17:52:15 <kushal> Oh yeah, not helpful for me then :(
17:52:43 <jberkus> I was trying to boot with the ks file on the USB key, but I ran into issues with EFIboot I couldn't figure out
17:52:54 <dustymabe> kushal: you can pass information about network setup
17:53:07 <kushal> dustymabe, okay, I will ask more later after meeting.
17:53:17 <dustymabe> you probably need to provied them on the command line though
17:53:18 <kushal> trishnag, we can move on :)
17:53:21 <kushal> dustymabe, Okay.
17:53:22 <dustymabe> not in the kickstart
17:53:28 <kushal> dustymabe, Okay.
17:53:28 <trishnag> kushal: sure :)
17:53:39 <kushal> dustymabe, good to know that there is an option.
17:53:46 <trishnag> #topic Decide a process about failed tests for Autocloud https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/167
17:53:55 <trishnag> kushal: dustymabe ^
17:54:39 <kushal> We are working to get the mails to the cloud list for that/
17:54:49 <kushal> Also the IRC bot as discussed before.
17:55:05 <trishnag> kushal: okay thanks
17:55:12 <trishnag> we can move on then
17:55:32 <trishnag> Ignoring #168 https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/168 since scollier is not here.
17:55:51 <trishnag> #topic Finish new Fedora Cloud PRD https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/170
17:56:08 <kushal> Could not look into that :(
17:56:12 <kushal> We need more help.
17:56:23 <trishnag> Looks like no one is assigned to this.
17:56:52 <jbrooks> any notes from flock?
17:57:14 <trishnag> jberkus: ^
17:57:15 <maxamillion> it didn't get discussed at flock, they ran out of time
17:57:28 <kushal> Only note was about changing name.
17:57:29 <jberkus> yah, otherwise it would be done
17:58:10 <trishnag> okay we are running out of time.
17:58:14 <trishnag> #topic Open Floor
17:58:19 <kushal> I have a point.
17:58:29 <kushal> I will start testing out to move our trac into Pagure.
17:58:42 <jberkus> in advance of osbs being ready, do we have any official fedora images other than the base image?
17:58:50 <jberkus> kushal: sounds good
17:58:54 <kushal> 2017-02-28 is the deadline of closing of fedorahosted.
17:59:03 <kushal> If anyone has a project there, move :)
17:59:41 <kushal> that is it from my side.
18:00:04 <trishnag> I have one.
18:00:07 <trishnag> Does anyone want to discuss about this https://github.com/kushaldas/tunirtests/pull/43 ?
18:00:19 <trishnag> dustymabe: ^
18:00:24 <kushal> I guess we are out of time.
18:00:32 <dustymabe> kushal: moving trac into pagure?
18:00:34 <kushal> trishnag, we can do this over a mail in the list
18:00:37 <trishnag> kushal: okay. I will start a thread then :)
18:00:44 <kushal> dustymabe, yes, 2017-02-28 is the sunset date for the trac.
18:00:53 <dustymabe> does trac solve the need we have for fedora cloud?
18:00:57 <kushal> nirik, announced it few minutes back.
18:01:14 <dustymabe> i mean does pagure sole the issues we have?
18:01:17 <jberkus> ok, let's take this to #fedora-cloud
18:01:24 <trishnag> yes
18:01:25 <kushal> 3
18:01:26 <kushal> 2
18:01:28 <kushal> 1.4
18:01:29 <trishnag> #endmeeting