16:30:13 <ydesouza> #startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
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16:30:33 <ydesouza> #topic roll call
16:30:42 <dustymabe> .hi
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16:31:39 <dustymabe> oops looks like zodbot lookups aren't working
16:31:41 <dustymabe> oh well :)
16:32:17 <ydesouza> #chair aoife_ dustymabe
16:32:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: aoife_ dustymabe ydesouza
16:32:36 <dustymabe> ydesouza: did you ping people in channels?
16:33:18 <ydesouza> Yup, dustymabe but one hour ago. I will send another message just to be sure
16:33:45 <dustymabe> hmm - I didn't see any in #fedora-coreos in IRC or the Fedora CoreOS channel in matrix
16:33:51 <mnguyen> .hello mnguyen
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16:34:34 <ydesouza> I am having an error when I try to post in the channel. "⚠ Cannot send to nick/channel"
16:34:52 <aoife_> Hello!
16:35:06 <ydesouza> #chair mnguyen
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16:35:29 <jlebon> .hello2
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16:36:01 <ydesouza> #chair  jlebon
16:36:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: aoife_ dustymabe jlebon mnguyen ydesouza
16:36:22 <aoife_> sorry I didnt realise I was lurking here :-D
16:36:26 <jlebon> ydesouza: remember also to ping folks in the matrix channel. i rely on that personally :)
16:36:34 <dustymabe> i just sent a ping in both places
16:36:41 <ydesouza> Thanks, dustymabe!
16:36:51 <dustymabe> I really think we might be able to move to matrix for meetings soon. I think some groups have already moved
16:37:04 <jdoss> .hi
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16:37:15 * dustymabe should ask nirik to see if releng has already moved over
16:37:16 <ydesouza> Not sure why I cant post in fedora-coreos channel here.
16:37:18 <jlebon> aoife_: you're stuck now. i expect participation from you :P
16:37:25 * jdoss waves
16:37:35 <ydesouza> # jdoss
16:37:36 <dustymabe> ydesouza: you need to register your nickname and then you can post - we had an issue with spam
16:37:44 <ydesouza> #chair  jdoss
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16:37:52 <dustymabe> heya jdoss
16:37:53 <gursewak> .hi
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16:37:56 <jdoss> I am excited to see this move fully to Matrix
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16:38:01 <jdoss> Hi Dusty!
16:38:04 <ydesouza> Ah, I got it. Thanks!
16:38:08 <dustymabe> jdoss: same
16:38:25 <ydesouza> #chair gursewak
16:38:25 <zodbot> Current chairs: aoife_ dustymabe gursewak jdoss jlebon mnguyen ydesouza
16:38:31 <jdoss> Is there a good Linux Matrix client?
16:39:39 <dustymabe> I just use the element web UI
16:40:13 <jdoss> Cools. I am a matrix n00b. I guess I need to STFW and learn more.
16:40:23 <ydesouza> I think we can start it now. Thanks for posting for me, Dusty.
16:40:31 <ydesouza> #topic Action items from last meeting
16:41:45 <ydesouza> travier to create a change proposal for F40 for switching away from nss-altfiles for OSTree based systems
16:43:00 <dustymabe> I think we need to re-action those since he isn't here this week
16:43:06 <ydesouza> I think @travier is not here today. Anyone knows something about it and want to share?
16:43:58 <jdoss> is there an issue I can read to catch up on?
16:44:08 <jdoss> I think this is a topic I am interested in but I want to make sure.
16:44:54 <dustymabe> jdoss: one sec
16:45:20 <dustymabe> https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1599
16:45:33 <dustymabe> which links to https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/155
16:45:51 <dustymabe> ^^ a lot of reading three
16:45:54 <dustymabe> there*
16:46:43 <ydesouza> travier to schedule meeting with Assisted installer team to understand
16:46:43 <ydesouza> the use case around
16:46:44 <ydesouza> Increase size of Ignition embed area in Live ISO fedora-coreos-tracker#1595
16:47:23 <ydesouza> This is the other topic that we have and I think since travier isnt here we can go to the topics from the tracker.
16:47:23 <jdoss> Ahhh yeah, this is related to a question I have about managing users with Layering https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1589#issuecomment-1749924161 not to derail this topic, but user management on FCOS with Layering has been on my mind a lot lately.
16:49:27 <jlebon> yeah, i think this is on the radar as part of the larger bootc effort. there's probably an issue somewhere for it
16:51:05 <ydesouza> #chair pboy
16:51:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: aoife_ dustymabe gursewak jdoss jlebon mnguyen pboy ydesouza
16:52:14 <ydesouza> I think there is no topic in the tracker to cover.
16:52:18 <ydesouza> #topic No meeting topics found.
16:52:41 <ydesouza> So I think we can start the open floor.
16:52:51 <ydesouza> #topic Open Floor
16:53:20 <jlebon> i have two similar items
16:53:52 <ydesouza> @chair hricky
16:54:02 <ydesouza> #chair hricky
16:54:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: aoife_ dustymabe gursewak hricky jdoss jlebon mnguyen pboy ydesouza
16:54:23 <dustymabe> ydesouza: :) you only need to chair people if they identify themselves
16:54:32 <dustymabe> i.e. with a .hi or .hello
16:54:34 <ydesouza> Ah, right. Thanks. Sorry about it.
16:54:34 <jlebon> we'd like to have a new Ignition release soon since it's been a while, but also for the Apple Hypervisor support that was added
16:54:42 <jdoss> !!
16:54:55 <hricky> :)
16:54:58 <dustymabe> jlebon: +1 for an Ignition release
16:55:02 <jdoss> That is pretty neat
16:55:28 <jlebon> but *also*, I think we should cut an Afterburn release because it's been even longer since we did a release and there's lots of dependency bumps in there that I wouldn't be surprised if there were some CVEs in there.
16:55:44 <jlebon> but that one, I think we should bake it in next too first
16:55:56 <jlebon> (like with zincati right now)
16:56:13 <dustymabe> WFM
16:56:28 <jdoss> Random thought. I wish Afterburn had a generic API support for non cloud providers.
16:56:33 <jlebon> so is anyone interested in cutting a release for either of those two?
16:57:45 <jlebon> i can take one of them if there are not enough volunteers, though i was hoping not both
16:58:15 <mnguyen> i haven't done a release for either but can take one if there are directions
16:58:19 <jlebon> jdoss: i think that thoughts needs more elaboration :)
16:58:28 <jlebon> thought*
16:58:46 <dustymabe> I can do the other if needed, but this is a good opportunity for new people to try out their hand at releases
16:58:56 <jdoss> I'll make an issue once I form a better idea of what that would look like.
16:59:05 <dustymabe> luckily our steps are pretty well documented I think
16:59:08 <jlebon> mnguyen: sweet, thanks! we have checklists nowadays that should make it straightforward
16:59:18 <ydesouza> I could help with the Ignition release. I will probably need some support, but I willing to try.
16:59:35 <dustymabe> ydesouza++
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16:59:37 <jlebon> ydesouza: great, thanks!
17:00:00 <mnguyen> I can afterburn then. jlebon mind being on deck for questions?
17:00:05 <jdoss> jlebon: Context on this idea is I have been a lot of of bare metal installs and I use Netbox as a source of truth for networking and I think it could be used to feed Afterburn things.
17:00:36 <jlebon> mnguyen: yup, definitely. first step is to create an issue from this template: https://github.com/coreos/afterburn/blob/main/.github/ISSUE_TEMPLATE/release-checklist.md
17:00:46 <jlebon> ydesouza: it's similar for you in Ignition too ^
17:02:02 <ydesouza> Nice, I will take a look on the template and some old PRs to have an idea in how to do the release.
17:02:25 <jlebon> jdoss: not familiar with Netbox. definitely worth discussing in an issue
17:02:32 <jdoss> Sounds good.
17:05:20 <jlebon> ydesouza: i think we can close the meeting if there are no other open floor items
17:06:07 <ydesouza> Sure!
17:06:28 <ydesouza> Anyone has any other topic to discuss? Just checking before I end the meeting. :)
17:06:46 <dustymabe> None from me right now
17:07:56 <jdoss> Thanks ydesouza for running the meeting!
17:08:05 <mnguyen> ydesouza++
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17:08:17 <jlebon> thanks for running ydesouza!
17:08:21 <jlebon> ydesouza++
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17:08:23 <ydesouza> `Thanks everyone to participate in this meeting!
17:08:45 <ydesouza> Have a great week! See you all!
17:08:52 <ydesouza> #endmeeting
17:09:17 <dustymabe> needs no space in front
17:09:28 <ydesouza> #endmeeting