16:30:13 #startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting 16:30:13 Meeting started Wed Nov 15 16:30:13 2023 UTC. 16:30:13 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:30:13 The chair is ydesouza. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:30:13 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:30:13 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_coreos_meeting' 16:30:33 #topic roll call 16:30:42 .hi 16:30:43 dustymabe: Something blew up, please try again 16:30:46 dustymabe: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 16:31:39 oops looks like zodbot lookups aren't working 16:31:41 oh well :) 16:32:17 #chair aoife_ dustymabe 16:32:17 Current chairs: aoife_ dustymabe ydesouza 16:32:36 ydesouza: did you ping people in channels? 16:33:18 Yup, dustymabe but one hour ago. I will send another message just to be sure 16:33:45 hmm - I didn't see any in #fedora-coreos in IRC or the Fedora CoreOS channel in matrix 16:33:51 .hello mnguyen 16:33:52 mnguyen: Something blew up, please try again 16:33:55 mnguyen: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 16:34:34 I am having an error when I try to post in the channel. "⚠ Cannot send to nick/channel" 16:34:52 Hello! 16:35:06 #chair mnguyen 16:35:06 Current chairs: aoife_ dustymabe mnguyen ydesouza 16:35:29 .hello2 16:35:30 jlebon: Something blew up, please try again 16:35:34 jlebon: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 16:36:01 #chair  jlebon 16:36:01 Current chairs: aoife_ dustymabe jlebon mnguyen ydesouza 16:36:22 sorry I didnt realise I was lurking here :-D 16:36:26 ydesouza: remember also to ping folks in the matrix channel. i rely on that personally :) 16:36:34 i just sent a ping in both places 16:36:41 Thanks, dustymabe! 16:36:51 I really think we might be able to move to matrix for meetings soon. I think some groups have already moved 16:37:04 .hi 16:37:05 jdoss: Something blew up, please try again 16:37:08 jdoss: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 16:37:15 * dustymabe should ask nirik to see if releng has already moved over 16:37:16 Not sure why I cant post in fedora-coreos channel here. 16:37:18 aoife_: you're stuck now. i expect participation from you :P 16:37:25 * jdoss waves 16:37:35 # jdoss 16:37:36 ydesouza: you need to register your nickname and then you can post - we had an issue with spam 16:37:44 #chair  jdoss 16:37:44 Current chairs: aoife_ dustymabe jdoss jlebon mnguyen ydesouza 16:37:52 heya jdoss 16:37:53 .hi 16:37:54 gursewak: Something blew up, please try again 16:37:56 I am excited to see this move fully to Matrix 16:37:57 gursewak: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 16:38:01 Hi Dusty! 16:38:04 Ah, I got it. Thanks! 16:38:08 jdoss: same 16:38:25 #chair gursewak 16:38:25 Current chairs: aoife_ dustymabe gursewak jdoss jlebon mnguyen ydesouza 16:38:31 Is there a good Linux Matrix client? 16:39:39 I just use the element web UI 16:40:13 Cools. I am a matrix n00b. I guess I need to STFW and learn more. 16:40:23 I think we can start it now. Thanks for posting for me, Dusty. 16:40:31 #topic Action items from last meeting 16:41:45 travier to create a change proposal for F40 for switching away from nss-altfiles for OSTree based systems 16:43:00 I think we need to re-action those since he isn't here this week 16:43:06 I think @travier is not here today. Anyone knows something about it and want to share? 16:43:58 is there an issue I can read to catch up on? 16:44:08 I think this is a topic I am interested in but I want to make sure. 16:44:54 jdoss: one sec 16:45:20 https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1599 16:45:33 which links to https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/155 16:45:51 ^^ a lot of reading three 16:45:54 there* 16:46:43 travier to schedule meeting with Assisted installer team to understand 16:46:43 the use case around 16:46:44 Increase size of Ignition embed area in Live ISO fedora-coreos-tracker#1595 16:47:23 This is the other topic that we have and I think since travier isnt here we can go to the topics from the tracker. 16:47:23 Ahhh yeah, this is related to a question I have about managing users with Layering https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1589#issuecomment-1749924161 not to derail this topic, but user management on FCOS with Layering has been on my mind a lot lately. 16:49:27 yeah, i think this is on the radar as part of the larger bootc effort. there's probably an issue somewhere for it 16:51:05 #chair pboy 16:51:05 Current chairs: aoife_ dustymabe gursewak jdoss jlebon mnguyen pboy ydesouza 16:52:14 I think there is no topic in the tracker to cover. 16:52:18 #topic No meeting topics found. 16:52:41 So I think we can start the open floor. 16:52:51 #topic Open Floor 16:53:20 i have two similar items 16:53:52 @chair hricky 16:54:02 #chair hricky 16:54:02 Current chairs: aoife_ dustymabe gursewak hricky jdoss jlebon mnguyen pboy ydesouza 16:54:23 ydesouza: :) you only need to chair people if they identify themselves 16:54:32 i.e. with a .hi or .hello 16:54:34 Ah, right. Thanks. Sorry about it. 16:54:34 we'd like to have a new Ignition release soon since it's been a while, but also for the Apple Hypervisor support that was added 16:54:42 !! 16:54:55 :) 16:54:58 jlebon: +1 for an Ignition release 16:55:02 That is pretty neat 16:55:28 but *also*, I think we should cut an Afterburn release because it's been even longer since we did a release and there's lots of dependency bumps in there that I wouldn't be surprised if there were some CVEs in there. 16:55:44 but that one, I think we should bake it in next too first 16:55:56 (like with zincati right now) 16:56:13 WFM 16:56:28 Random thought. I wish Afterburn had a generic API support for non cloud providers. 16:56:33 so is anyone interested in cutting a release for either of those two? 16:57:45 i can take one of them if there are not enough volunteers, though i was hoping not both 16:58:15 i haven't done a release for either but can take one if there are directions 16:58:19 jdoss: i think that thoughts needs more elaboration :) 16:58:28 thought* 16:58:46 I can do the other if needed, but this is a good opportunity for new people to try out their hand at releases 16:58:56 I'll make an issue once I form a better idea of what that would look like. 16:59:05 luckily our steps are pretty well documented I think 16:59:08 mnguyen: sweet, thanks! we have checklists nowadays that should make it straightforward 16:59:18 I could help with the Ignition release. I will probably need some support, but I willing to try. 16:59:35 ydesouza++ 16:59:35 dustymabe: Karma for ydesouza changed to 1 (for the release cycle f39): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:59:37 ydesouza: great, thanks! 17:00:00 I can afterburn then. jlebon mind being on deck for questions? 17:00:05 jlebon: Context on this idea is I have been a lot of of bare metal installs and I use Netbox as a source of truth for networking and I think it could be used to feed Afterburn things. 17:00:36 mnguyen: yup, definitely. first step is to create an issue from this template: https://github.com/coreos/afterburn/blob/main/.github/ISSUE_TEMPLATE/release-checklist.md 17:00:46 ydesouza: it's similar for you in Ignition too ^ 17:02:02 Nice, I will take a look on the template and some old PRs to have an idea in how to do the release. 17:02:25 jdoss: not familiar with Netbox. definitely worth discussing in an issue 17:02:32 Sounds good. 17:05:20 ydesouza: i think we can close the meeting if there are no other open floor items 17:06:07 Sure! 17:06:28 Anyone has any other topic to discuss? Just checking before I end the meeting. :) 17:06:46 None from me right now 17:07:56 Thanks ydesouza for running the meeting! 17:08:05 ydesouza++ 17:08:05 mnguyen: Karma for ydesouza changed to 2 (for the release cycle f39): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:08:17 thanks for running ydesouza! 17:08:21 ydesouza++ 17:08:21 jlebon: Karma for ydesouza changed to 3 (for the release cycle f39): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:08:23 `Thanks everyone to participate in this meeting! 17:08:45 Have a great week! See you all! 17:08:52 #endmeeting 17:09:17 needs no space in front 17:09:28 #endmeeting