23:00:44 #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 23:00:44 Meeting started Wed Sep 29 23:00:44 2010 UTC. The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 23:00:44 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 23:00:44 #meetingname Fedora Docs 23:00:44 #topic Roll Call 23:00:44 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs' 23:00:56 * Gearoid is here 23:01:15 * rbergeron waves hai 23:01:17 * jjmcd 23:01:45 * Sparks is here 23:03:49 Okay, let's get started. 23:04:03 #topic Follow up on last week's action items 23:04:15 #action Sparks to set default ticket holder to Docs list to allow everyone ability to see new tickets 23:04:37 I'll do that tonight. 23:04:46 jjmcd to document the process of translating non-English source guides 23:05:05 still a couple of weeks out. as i said past few weeks, that one is a ways down the list 23:05:16 #action jjmcd to document the process of translating non-English source guides 23:05:18 But we are getting some experience 23:05:27 * nb will look into providing a way for infra to create the l10n drafts 23:05:30 Opps 23:05:34 nb will look into providing a way for infra to create the l10n drafts 23:05:40 i still need to get with jjmcd 23:05:47 #action nb will look into providing a way for infra to create the l10n drafts 23:05:48 we will be using a publictest server 23:06:05 Okay 23:06:11 #topic Release Notes 23:06:21 Hey there's rudi 23:06:21 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Notes_schedule 23:06:23 * rudi is belatedly here 23:06:25 it's just a matter of getting the appropriate people sponsored into the appropriate groups, and then creating the cron script 23:06:48 I had the F14 beta on docs.fp.o yesterday, but I see today they are disappeared! 23:07:30 jjmcd: Really? 23:07:34 yeah 23:07:37 * Sparks thought he saw them earlier 23:08:01 I was talking with nb about an error i got trying to make them show up when they appeared 23:08:26 Hmmm 23:09:07 no commits since then - very odd 23:09:15 jjmcd sent a message out to the list earlier today... 23:10:03 #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2010-September/012695.html 23:10:30 so we'll need some help over the next few days/weeks 23:11:58 #info jjmcd will be away for a few weeks and won't be available as much as he usually is 23:12:19 jjmcd: I'll respond to your message and take some of the tasks 23:12:29 cool 23:12:42 I'll also encourage others to take some tasks as well. 23:12:46 I think you are the likely candidate for the notify ones 23:12:48 jjmcd: Got anything? 23:12:54 yeah 23:12:55 But the wiki updates lots of folks could do 23:13:07 heh 23:13:20 The F14 release notes are there, just not on the menu 23:13:24 go figure 23:14:01 If I'm not back for making the RPM, the process is documented 23:14:21 There is good odds I will have little or no Internet for extended periods, tho 23:14:55 Nothing outstanding is especially hard 23:15:09 Okay 23:15:17 Anyone have anything? 23:15:44 Good opportunity tho for someone else to practice at the rpm 23:15:56 We could stand to update the beta rpm with more languages 23:16:40 Okay 23:16:53 You might send that out to the list 23:18:04 Okay, anything else before we move on? 23:18:48 #topic Guide Status 23:19:07 #info Sparks is branching the Security Guide now! 23:19:35 Anyone have anything they want to discuss with regards to their guide? 23:19:45 Accessibility Guide was branched yesterday 23:20:06 #info Accessibility Guide was branched yesterday 23:20:24 Gearoid: Awesome! Was jjmcd able to help you out with git? 23:20:47 Yeah, jjmcd and rudi helped a lot, thanks guys! :) 23:20:50 Branching of IG going on today 23:21:04 (still having trouble with some tricky L10N merges) 23:21:22 rudi: Did you see the message on the list about a possible bug in the IG? 23:21:34 Yeah; I'll get to it today hopefully 23:21:43 I don't know the answer offhand without rereading those sections 23:21:55 (in the F14 version, which isn't available yet, so may already be fixed) 23:22:03 #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2010-September/012697.html 23:22:20 rudi: cool. 23:22:39 #info Installation Guide branching today 23:23:14 Anyone else? 23:23:37 Gearoid: Do you need any help getting the pot files fixed and submitted to transifex? 23:23:47 done! 23:24:09 Gearoid rocks! 23:24:32 so do rudi and jjmcd! 23:24:54 Awesome! 23:25:42 Anyone/anything else? 23:26:37 Okay, moving on. 23:27:00 I'll mention... 23:27:03 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Publishing_draft_documentation 23:27:15 #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets 23:27:22 #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 23:27:38 #info 87 open bugs 23:29:03 I'll just mention that we should keep up with the bugs... make sure the folks that file the tickets get timely feedback. 23:29:27 #topic Open floor discussion 23:29:35 Anyone have anything? 23:30:17 sorry I'm late 23:30:18 * jjmcd notes that the release notes are there SOMETIMES ! 23:30:30 bethlynn: Welcome! 23:30:47 jjmcd: That's... odd. Maybe you should take that to Infra 23:31:05 I have a question regarding the release notes 23:31:12 Looks like even most of the time (I would have bet on 1/6th of the time) 23:31:21 how late would you say the software is frozen in fedora? 23:31:39 The software or the dox? 23:31:55 pending any show stoppers, can I expect all of the software of the beta to be there 23:31:56 ? 23:32:01 Feature freeze comed pretty early 23:32:06 comes 23:32:10 for the beat writing purposed 23:32:20 Yeah, RC should look like beta, feature wise 23:32:42 If I recall, feature freeze is actually a while before beta 23:33:09 But the actual version numbers of things, they change right up until release as bugs get located 23:33:37 We had an issue like that this time, in fact 23:33:52 We were pretty sure we would have systemd, but then the rug got pulled 23:34:44 So for beat writing, beta is pretty safe 23:35:03 Problem is, we try to get most of the writing done before beta :-( 23:37:24 yeah, sorry, I didn't have time to work on the gnome beat that I signed up to write yet 23:38:12 it also makes me wonder, is it safe to say its too late for LibreOffice? 23:39:04 I think it was too late for that probably 3 months ago 23:39:13 But, rules were made to be broken ;-) 23:39:31 Okay, anything else? 23:41:31 Okay, thanks everyone for coming out! 23:41:54 Please watch the Docs list and make sure everything gets done! 23:42:00 #endmeeting