23:02:18 <Sparks> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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23:02:21 <Sparks> #meetingname Fedora Docs
23:02:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs'
23:02:23 <Sparks> #topic Roll Call
23:02:35 * jhradilek is here.
23:02:35 * sgordon is here
23:02:48 * jjmcd seems to have stepped back in time
23:03:10 <Sparks> jjmcd: can you do this tonight?  I have a list of things tudu nearly a quarter-mile long
23:03:35 <jjmcd> haven't even lookd at the agenda, where's Zach?
23:03:48 <jjmcd> Well, doesn't look too tough
23:03:54 <Sparks> #chair jjmcd
23:03:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: Sparks jjmcd
23:04:21 <jjmcd> Prolly should wait another minute or two
23:04:41 <jjmcd> Seems like rudi usually makes it, and maybe a few others
23:05:04 <Sparks> It IS the right meeting time isn't it?
23:05:18 <jjmcd> Yes it is
23:05:26 * jhradilek hopes so.
23:05:37 <jjmcd> 2301Z right?
23:05:48 <jjmcd> OK
23:05:53 <jjmcd> #topic Follow up on last week's action items
23:06:00 <jjmcd> Only one and I didn't do it
23:06:11 <jjmcd> jjmcd to contact shell maintainer about a Documentation category in shell
23:06:25 <jjmcd> I've been crunching to get an RPM in for beta
23:06:36 <jjmcd> #action jjmcd to contact shell maintainer about a Documentation category in shell
23:06:44 <sgordon> rudi will be in shortly i expect
23:06:44 <jjmcd> so we'll save that for another week
23:06:50 <sgordon> he's just out of the room at the second
23:06:52 <jjmcd> OK, cool
23:06:59 <jjmcd> He didn't miss much anyway
23:07:06 <jjmcd> Next topic is the schedule
23:07:17 <jjmcd> #topic Fedora 15 Schedule
23:07:38 <jjmcd> Not sure if we need to say a lot about this.  Anyone have questions or issues?
23:08:02 <sgordon> did that relnote package get the karma it needed?
23:08:12 <sgordon> i didn't get a chance to look yesterday
23:08:31 <jjmcd> sgordon, I believe it.  I got emails it was tagged and this and that and the other thing, too
23:08:40 <sgordon> kk
23:08:49 * rudi_ is here...
23:08:57 <jhradilek> Here he is. :)
23:08:58 <jjmcd> I have to admit, though, I can't say I'm 100% sure I understood what they were telling me!
23:09:05 <jjmcd> Hi rudi
23:09:10 <Sparks> jjmcd: Did you see that ticket talking about the RNs being in the wrong directory>
23:09:16 <Sparks> Hi rudi_ !
23:09:23 <rudi_> Heya all
23:09:40 <jjmcd> Sparks, yes I did, and not sure whether we want to do anything about it.  I mean, we can.  *BUT*
23:09:57 <jjmcd> That is where they have been since we took them off the CD's root directory
23:10:09 <jjmcd> I *assumed* that's where they belong
23:10:27 <jjmcd> I don't see any huge problem moving them, but I want to spend some time making sure
23:11:26 <jjmcd> I don't think it would be hugely complicated to fix, now that we are using d-p-r.  Might have been quite a problem previously tho
23:11:46 <jjmcd> OK, and on that note
23:11:53 <jjmcd> #topic Release Notes
23:12:17 <jjmcd> OK, we did get an RPM out there, I assume it may well show up on the next compose
23:12:28 <jjmcd> However, there are a few problems
23:12:44 <jjmcd> Probably the biggest being that zoglesby didn't make it
23:13:12 <jjmcd> Also, there is an issue with the icon.  GNOME 3 needs an svg, or Paul says so anyway
23:13:25 <jjmcd> I got an icon when I installed it but stickster_afk didn't
23:13:40 <jjmcd> In any case, I have made more icons, haven't made an rpm with them yet
23:14:04 <jjmcd> Also, it gets put in the wrong place on XFCE
23:14:18 <jjmcd> That one I can fix but it is a little harder
23:14:43 <jjmcd> And unfortunately, I want zoglesby to make another RPM ASAP but I'm not ready for him to do that
23:14:50 <jjmcd> *BUT* The current thing
23:15:02 <jjmcd> I need someone who wants a really, really boring job
23:15:26 <jjmcd> I've been adding the index entries, about a third through, but I won't be able to spend much time between now and Sunday
23:15:38 <jjmcd> So if someone needs something to do while watching TV ....
23:16:09 <jjmcd> I know I made it sound so appealing ;-)
23:16:32 <dmaxel> I'm booked :/
23:17:08 <jjmcd> I might get some time Friday, remains to be seen.
23:17:25 <rudi_> Mundane though it is, this is really easy, low-hanging fruit for anyone who wants to build some basic DocBook skills...
23:17:26 <jjmcd> Does anyone know what happened to zoglesby?  Is he still lacking Internet?
23:17:35 <jjmcd> It really is
23:17:38 <rudi_> (everything you always wanted to know about DocBook but were afraid to ask!)
23:17:54 <jjmcd> It gives you a chance to get cuddly with DocBook without a lot of stress
23:18:58 <jjmcd> I plan to make perhaps two more RPMs before we do the GA rpm, and I need someone else to do at least one of them, because I won't be here to make the GA
23:19:14 <jjmcd> zoglesby was going to do it, but he hasn't been here much
23:20:16 <jjmcd> Might be left for Eric ;-)
23:20:34 <jjmcd> OK, anything else about release notes?
23:20:51 <jjmcd> There's also a few Rahul edits to do
23:20:53 <sgordon> there were some comments on the ML about the anaconda beat
23:21:11 <jjmcd> Yeah, I got some of his but not the anaconda
23:21:32 <jjmcd> And I got Luigi's links fixed.  Those were all on mw-render so they were easy
23:21:42 <sgordon> facepalm, forgot that Rahul was the poster of said message :p
23:21:59 <jjmcd> But another thing someone should do is go through Rahul's message and make those fixes
23:22:11 <jjmcd> It will be mid next week before I get there
23:22:56 <rudi_> I'll have something for anaconda shortly
23:22:58 <jjmcd> That's like 4 or 5 down the list.  I really should pass on the index entries for now, but I got started on then ....
23:23:07 <jjmcd> rudi_, appreciate that
23:23:37 <jjmcd> I need to get things in shape so that zoglesby or someone can do an rpm easily
23:23:48 <jjmcd> And then fix the XFCE/LXDE thing
23:24:05 <jjmcd> Nothing especially hard there but time consuming
23:24:30 <jjmcd> If anyone gets a chance to chip away at the XML I would just ask you commit frequently
23:25:01 <jjmcd> Don't leave changes hanging for hours.  Once you get something commit and push so we don't trip over each other
23:25:13 <jjmcd> Anything else on release notes?
23:25:50 <jjmcd> Just by way of FYI, I'll be here a little bit tomorrow AM and then out of town the rest of the day
23:26:02 <jjmcd> Same thing Saturday, and *probably*, same thing Friday
23:26:48 <jjmcd> Although it is looking like a State Police lieutenant might bail me out of Friday of all things
23:27:00 <jjmcd> Anything else on release notes?
23:27:57 <jjmcd> #topic Guide Status
23:28:09 <jjmcd> So, what is our status on guides?
23:29:12 <jjmcd> I gather they have all been branched
23:29:24 <rudi_> All branched AFAIK
23:29:47 <jjmcd> Did a note go out yesterday that final POTs are coming?
23:30:01 <rudi_> No -- I'll take care of that
23:30:13 <jjmcd> rudi_, still need to branch RNs.  We've only been in shape to do that a couple days
23:30:21 <jjmcd> We are WAY behind on that
23:31:11 <jjmcd> Looks like this time next week we should have a final build on all guides
23:31:20 <rudi_> Yeah
23:32:35 <jjmcd> looking over the schedule all I see otherwise is a note on reviews for SRPMs.  Are we packaging any guides?
23:34:08 <jjmcd> OK, anything else on guides?  Anyone need help?  Any questions?
23:34:54 <rudi_> I don't think we're packaging any, now
23:35:10 <jjmcd> Thats kind of what I thought
23:35:17 <jjmcd> OK, anything else?
23:35:55 <jjmcd> #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets
23:36:03 <jjmcd> #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84
23:36:38 <jjmcd> Looks like a couple more, there are a number there I can probably close now that we have an rpm out
23:37:47 <jjmcd> Anyone need any help with bugs?
23:38:33 <jjmcd> #topic Open floor discussion
23:39:10 <jjmcd> So is there anything else that needs to come to the attention of this august body?
23:39:57 <jjmcd> quiet out there in the jungle tonight
23:40:39 <jjmcd> Do I hear a motion to adjourn?
23:41:12 <rudi_> all quiet :)
23:41:27 <jjmcd> apparently everyone is asleep
23:41:31 * rbergeron watches a tumbleweed blow by ;)
23:41:47 <jjmcd> hey Robyn
23:41:59 <jjmcd> OK, so lets kill this puppy
23:42:03 <jjmcd> Thanks everyone
23:42:07 <jjmcd> #endmeeting