14:00:22 <suehle> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
14:00:22 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Dec  5 14:00:22 2011 UTC.  The chair is suehle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:00:27 <suehle> #meeting name Fedora Docs
14:00:33 <suehle> #meetingname Fedora Docs
14:00:33 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs'
14:00:52 <suehle> #topic Roll Call
14:01:09 * jjmcd 
14:01:25 * randomuser percolates
14:01:38 <suehle> Oh good, randomuser's making coffee ;)
14:01:55 <suehle> One of you know how to do the PingLists? Because I think I failed.
14:02:50 * sgordon 
14:04:18 <suehle> #topic Action items
14:04:35 <jjmcd> There's been some changes in that, but I haven't been paying that close attention
14:04:48 <suehle> The bug squashing party appears to be rolling along, so check.
14:05:07 <suehle> fnadge to start a Style Guide book -- any info on that?
14:06:02 <suehle> I can see this is going to be a lively and short meeting. :)
14:06:07 <suehle> #topic FUDCon Blacksburg
14:06:09 <jjmcd> Not all bad
14:06:32 <suehle> Well, Sparks and bcotton have most of the items on the agenda, and they're the two who aren't here.
14:06:56 * jjmcd and jsmith-away have a pres, no gnus on that
14:07:03 <suehle> We've got the two classes going
14:07:06 <suehle> yup
14:07:57 <suehle> #Docs QA
14:07:57 <Southern_Gentlem> huh Fudcon?
14:08:14 <suehle> Southern_Gentlm: Could you expound on the question?
14:08:27 <Southern_Gentlem> suehle,  whats the question
14:08:46 <suehle> Southern_Gentlem: I don't know, you said "huh Fudcon?" Do you have a question?
14:08:56 * randomuser passes a cop of coffee to Southern_Gentlem
14:09:07 <jjmcd> Southern_Gentlem generally has the answers
14:09:08 <Southern_Gentlem> no i pop up if someone else has a question about Fudcon
14:09:26 <suehle> Oh, OK. :) Just didn't want to pass any questions by!
14:09:35 <sgordon> i am still trying to work out if i can get there
14:09:40 <sgordon> flights looking expensive
14:10:04 <jjmcd> sort of a damp drive for you
14:10:07 <Southern_Gentlem> suehle,  i have a highlighter on the word FUDCon
14:10:10 <suehle> sgordon: I suspect it's not an easy place to fly to. But if you can get to Raleigh, we're working on a vanpool, but so far it's a very small one. Like... me.
14:10:24 <sgordon> yeah i am in toronto
14:10:30 <sgordon> so the problem is it's 2 hops
14:10:34 <sgordon> gets expensive quick
14:10:35 <suehle> Southern_Gentlem: Sorry, it's my first round running a meeting. I'm on slow.
14:11:08 <suehle> So, Docs QA is another Sparks one.
14:11:09 <suehle> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_QA_Procedure
14:11:19 <suehle> Agenda notes "Please comment. We will come up with a procedure after the Bug Squashing Party"
14:11:42 <suehle> #topic Guide Status
14:12:04 <sgordon> i dont think we got to guide status last week, but the musicians guide did eventually go up
14:12:08 <jjmcd> Tech Notes en-US and ja-JP published
14:12:16 <suehle> high fives all around
14:12:19 <sgordon> i think there was another email question about german translations though?
14:12:21 <jjmcd> but translation is weird on that one, looking for rudi
14:12:30 <sgordon> rudi has spawned an underling
14:12:35 <sgordon> so he has been off work for a week or so
14:12:44 <suehle> That seems to be going around.
14:12:55 <jjmcd> yes, I knew that was coming, so not a surprise
14:13:05 <jjmcd> but he did some magic last time
14:13:46 <jjmcd> Protb with TNs is that 90%+ of the strings don't need to be translated, he did something to reduce the noise for L10N but I don't know what it was
14:15:35 <suehle> Is that about it on guides?
14:16:28 * fnadge here
14:16:45 * pkovar here
14:16:52 <sgordon> well i did still have the open question on the german translations
14:17:16 <sgordon> did we get bugzilla components set up to track the new process for pushing these?
14:17:40 <suehle> I am unfortunately short on answers about that.
14:18:03 <jjmcd> I suspect not
14:18:09 <sgordon> i am happy to assist and push some of them but there seem to be a number so it might be worth getting bugs raised and splitting it up if we can
14:18:20 <jjmcd> there have been a number of postings on the l10n list about pushing translations
14:18:40 <jjmcd> and some translators have been doing a fair bit of pushing themselves
14:18:47 <sgordon> yeah i am only on fedora-docs so i only got the crossposts
14:19:34 <pkovar> re the new translations publishing process
14:19:44 <pkovar> the new component has been set up
14:20:17 <jjmcd> did we get the notification thing squared away?
14:20:18 <pkovar> and also the default assignee is now set to the docs-publishers FAS group, meaning everything should work
14:20:41 <jjmcd> cool beans
14:20:44 <pkovar> translators only need to file a bug against the right component
14:20:59 <pkovar> so i will ask the german translator to do that
14:21:29 <pkovar> then we need to get as many trans people as possible to the FAS group so that they can help out with thw publishing process
14:23:04 <pkovar> of course, as i said before, this is not related to teams doing their publishing
14:24:05 <pkovar> so if anybody of you docs-publishers is interested in helping with publishing, please go ahead
14:26:08 <pkovar> also please note that now you will probably receive some publish request in your inbox unless you have set up your email to filter out such messages
14:26:28 <pkovar> * publish requests from time to time
14:27:10 <pkovar> so any comments, thoughts on that?
14:27:23 <pkovar> everybody agrees? :-)
14:27:33 <sgordon> no problems that i can see for now
14:27:37 <jjmcd> Sounds good to me
14:27:50 <pkovar> great, thanks
14:28:13 <suehle> Excellent
14:28:21 <suehle> #Bug Squashing Party
14:28:26 <suehle> #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84
14:28:38 <suehle> scheduled for December 15 at 2 p.m. EST (1900 UTC)
14:29:09 <jjmcd> suehle, should be a #topic Bug Squashing Party
14:29:14 <suehle> Doh.
14:29:22 <suehle> randomuser never gave me coffee :)
14:29:28 <suehle> #topic Bug Squashing Party
14:29:34 <suehle> It said #topic in my head!
14:29:38 * randomuser scrambles to pour a cup
14:29:43 <suehle> #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84
14:29:49 <suehle> and still scheduled for December 15 at 2 p.m. EST (1900 UTC)
14:30:36 <suehle> Any outstanding BZ tickets we need to discuss?
14:34:19 <suehle> #topic Open floor
14:34:31 * jjmcd has a couple of FYIs
14:34:49 <jjmcd> Release notes bugs swatted, 16.3 published on docs.fp.o
14:35:06 <jjmcd> Still 4 langs that were in the original RPM not 100% translated
14:35:32 <jjmcd> so when Spanish, French, Italian and Russian reach 100% I'll make a new RPM
14:35:43 <jjmcd> Including any other langs that get to 100% by then
14:36:07 <jjmcd> I do have a question, tho
14:36:34 <jjmcd> With lotsa folks publishing it gets a little tough to see what is already published
14:36:47 <jjmcd> Mostly langs with non-Latin charsets are a problem
14:36:51 <jjmcd> any hints?
14:38:23 <pkovar> jjmcd: since this will be tracked in bugzilla, i think that's not a problem
14:38:47 <jjmcd> Well, I suspect when a translator publishes their own they won't file a bug
14:38:53 <pkovar> you can easily see the open requests by displaying the right component
14:39:12 <pkovar> jjmcd: then we don't need to care, i guess .-)
14:39:15 <pkovar> or do we?
14:39:31 <jjmcd> Oh, OK.  So we can rely on L10n to advise what needs to be published - yeah, that will work
14:40:08 <jjmcd> I have a tough time distinguishing Assamese from Bengali, for example, so BZ will help a bunch
14:40:11 <pkovar> they always know better i think
14:44:03 <suehle> Does that about wrap it up? Any more FYIs jjmcd?
14:44:12 <jjmcd> I think that's it
14:44:29 <suehle> Awesome. One day when I competently hold a meeting, you can all point back to this day and laugh at me. :)
14:44:43 <suehle> #endmeeting