22:28:41 <threebean> #startmeeting testing 22:28:41 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Feb 8 22:28:41 2014 UTC. The chair is threebean. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:28:41 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:00:16 <zodbot> randomuser: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 14:00:16 <randomuser> #meetingname Fedora Docs 14:00:16 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs' 14:00:17 <randomuser> #topic Roll Call 14:00:26 * lnovich is here 14:00:40 <randomuser> can't start another meeting !?! 14:00:43 <randomuser> #endmeeting 14:01:00 <randomuser> ahem 14:01:06 <randomuser> <threebean> 15:28:41> #startmeeting testing 14:01:10 <pbokoc> hahahah 14:01:25 * Capesteve waves 14:01:33 * jhradilek waves too and leaves. 14:03:16 <randomuser> hang on folks, we'll see if we can get someone to prod the bot 14:03:46 <fenris02> #endmeeting 14:03:54 <fenris02> zodbot, chairs 14:04:00 <fenris02> zodbot, ping 14:04:00 <zodbot> pong 14:04:29 <fenris02> hm. threebean started a test meeting .. and never ended it 14:04:48 <lnovich> throw a bean bag at the bot then 14:05:15 <Capesteve> three bean would be a good name for a coffee shop 14:05:16 <randomuser> #chair fenris02 14:06:01 <randomuser> well, we've at least got the greetings out of the way 14:06:11 <randomuser> #topic New Writers 14:06:27 <randomuser> any new writers here today? 14:07:35 <lnovich> guess not 14:07:46 <randomuser> would seem so 14:08:08 <randomuser> #topic Publican and Publishing 14:08:47 <randomuser> this seems like it's getting somewhere; rudi had a staging instance up last week and was doing things behind the curtain 14:12:10 <lnovich> any indication when things will be done? 14:14:19 <randomuser> nb set up a sysadmin-docs fas group, of which rudi is the sponsor 14:14:19 <randomuser> so afaik rudi will work out the scripts to pull in guides from koji, then we'll ansibleate the instance and start publishing guides 14:14:52 <lnovich> ok 14:15:40 <pkovar> what do we plan to do with the old docs.fp.o instance? (and the guides in it) 14:16:10 <pkovar> archive/move to something like docs-old.fp.o? 14:20:05 <randomuser> pkovar, not sure - i'm sure it will stay around until everything is published, and web.git won't go away 14:20:32 <randomuser> #chair lnovich jhradilek Capesteve 14:20:47 <randomuser> I'm battling some weird routing issues here, sorry 14:21:04 <lnovich> all ok? 14:22:09 <randomuser> for some reason, my routing table starts using the wrong interface to access a given host, or drops a route, or forgets the gateway 14:22:12 <pkovar> randomuser: so, are we going to republish *all* guides on docs,fp.o? 14:22:28 <randomuser> pkovar, as I understand it, yes 14:22:46 <randomuser> pkovar, are you suggesting an alternative? 14:22:47 <pkovar> hm, that looks like a lot of work though 14:22:55 <randomuser> yeah. 14:23:20 <pkovar> i would suggest to only republish guides from recent releases 14:23:36 <pkovar> and archive/move everything else 14:23:39 <lnovich> no point anything before F18 14:23:54 <randomuser> I agree 14:23:56 <lnovich> but we can't remove it 14:24:09 <lnovich> there are customers who still use it 14:24:19 <randomuser> lnovich, there are? 14:24:20 <lnovich> i mean people and companies 14:24:40 <lnovich> yup i just helped a company move from F11 14:24:41 <pkovar> maybe set up redirects to an -old instance? 14:25:13 <randomuser> we could migrate over after a given number of guides are published, and see if anyone squawks 14:25:28 <randomuser> although they probably will squawk, but not to us 14:26:17 <lnovich> we could keep just the PDF and trash the HTML - that would save us some space! 14:26:37 <randomuser> ... or vise versa 14:26:42 <lnovich> true 14:27:21 <randomuser> pkovar, if we want to have the old content around, i don't think we should maintain two different workflows, processes, instances, etc and bridge them with a redirect 14:27:53 <pkovar> i think the biggest concern here are broken URLs 14:27:58 <randomuser> easier now, but... 14:29:07 <randomuser> hmm... there are probably error_logs 14:30:52 <randomuser> #action to investigate docs.fp.o httpd error logs 14:31:17 <randomuser> it would be interesting to see what kind of traffic we're getting, anyway 14:32:07 <nirik> #endmeeting