18:07:24 <zoglesby> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 18:07:24 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 3 18:07:24 2015 UTC. The chair is zoglesby. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:07:24 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:07:45 <zoglesby> #meetingname Fedora Docs 18:07:45 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs' 18:08:21 <zoglesby> #topic Office Hours 18:08:46 <zoglesby> #info today is another beats working session. 18:09:03 <zoglesby> if you have questions about release notes beats please ask 18:09:11 <randomuser> I said ten minutes or *more*, zoglesby 18:09:38 <zoglesby> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_notes_beats 18:09:44 <zoglesby> #chair randomuser 18:09:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: randomuser zoglesby 18:10:49 <zoglesby> #link http://piratepad.net/nIJTKEmI5c 18:11:01 <zoglesby> tracking doc ^^ 18:13:58 * randomuser is preoccupied for a bit but will participate soonish 18:14:08 <zoglesby> as am I 18:14:14 <williamjmorenor> I am looking for cometen for the Development Web Beat out of frappe framework 18:14:37 <zoglesby> but I can answer questions if others are here, just can't write atm 18:18:26 <williamjmorenor> there is a dead line for beat writters? 18:19:47 <zoglesby> williamjmorenor: it was earlier this week, for wiki based writers 18:20:16 <zoglesby> anything else is done in git and you have to be in the docs-commit fas group 18:21:36 * linux-modder in and out in a few channels helping folks 18:22:06 <linux-modder> zoglesby, what needs to be done for docs-commit? 18:22:34 <williamjmorenor> so we can not include more content to the wiki? 18:23:01 <williamjmorenor> I have just write something about libreoffice 5 in the productivity beat 18:25:23 <randomuser> linux-modder, your time is better spend on relnotes and wiki at this point, but I can mentor you to docs-commit membership going forward 18:26:15 <zoglesby> williamjmorenor: we held off on wiki freese 18:26:17 <zoglesby> freeze 18:26:30 <zoglesby> so you can still write on wiki 18:26:56 <zoglesby> and to be honest if you have changes after that you can make them on the wiki, but you need to tell someone here so that we can get them into git 18:29:57 <williamjmorenor> OK 18:30:06 <williamjmorenor> i will try to finish today 18:30:17 <williamjmorenor> so the beat can be imported to git 18:32:21 <zoglesby> williamjmorenor: I don't think we are going to be doing that until next week, but the sooner you have it done the better 18:33:42 <williamjmorenor> ok 18:34:06 <williamjmorenor> maybe for the next release I work to get commit acces to docs :) 18:34:21 <williamjmorenor> by the way 18:34:24 <zoglesby> williamjmorenor: don't wait for the next release! 18:34:42 <williamjmorenor> but what can I do in thes release? 18:34:42 <zoglesby> work with us and get it sooner, the next release is always a release away 18:35:28 <williamjmorenor> I can write in the docbook xml and propose a patch, maybe I can ask to mayorga so we live in the same city 18:35:56 <williamjmorenor> also I help in zanata with this is not a docs issue 18:39:18 <williamjmorenor> thanks zoglesby I have to go lunch, in Nicaragua it is 12:39 MD 18:39:21 <williamjmorenor> regards 18:47:02 * zoglesby is going away for a bit 18:47:05 <zoglesby> back later to work 18:51:35 * randomuser is leaving work for lunch and office hours fun 19:11:01 <randomuser> good timing, FranciscoD 19:20:01 <randomuser> hmm.. there's nothing in the i18n beat, I'm going to mail their list and see what's up 19:28:15 <randomuser> zoglesby, I'm sending a mail to devel - what do you think about tuesday the 8th as a hard wiki freeze date? 19:28:29 <randomuser> that matches the beta freeze date on the schedule 19:37:39 <FranciscoD_> randomuser: did I do something? :D 19:38:21 <randomuser> FranciscoD_, you joined the channel in the middle of a release notes writing binge! 19:38:25 <randomuser> surely you planned that 19:38:34 <FranciscoD_> lol 19:38:38 <FranciscoD_> of course I did :P 19:38:51 <FranciscoD_> Just let me finish my pasta 19:38:53 <FranciscoD_> and my chicken ;) 19:50:16 <randomuser> pasta first; you can have the chicken when the work is done! 19:50:18 * randomuser ducks 19:55:11 <randomuser> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Documentation_beats 19:55:31 <randomuser> I'm going back to $dayjob but will leave the meeting open and come back to the task later on 19:55:49 <randomuser> I'm also making an executive decision that wiki freeze will be on the 8th 19:56:08 <randomuser> #info randomuser decided wiki freeze on the 8th, to give people time to take action on his mail 20:51:55 <FranciscoD_> randomuser: began the workstation beat, not much to write at the moment though - changes seem to be few this release. 20:52:10 <FranciscoD_> I'll keep an eye on the gnome release page and update the beats page accordingly 20:52:13 <FranciscoD_> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Workstation_Specific_Content_Beat 20:52:16 <FranciscoD_> https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointSeventeen/ReleaseNotes 21:17:19 <randomuser> FranciscoD_, yeah, afaik workstation is mostly gnome stuff; firmware updates are supposedly coming, but I'm not sure about actual vendor support 21:17:28 * randomuser sent a mail to hughsie about that 21:31:14 <grundblom> So I am confused by what the wiki freeze is 21:41:16 <randomuser> grundblom, the wiki freeze is when we stop doing release notes in the wiki, and start moving them to git 21:41:32 <randomuser> also FranciscoD++ 21:42:35 <grundblom> Oh, gotcha 21:43:07 <grundblom> So I updated a bunch of beats, Do I need to keep record of them to apply to my beats badges? 21:46:33 <randomuser> I'll get it from wiki changes and commits 21:48:44 <grundblom> I have made a few updates so far to the beats, is there more I can help with? 21:52:21 <randomuser> always :) 21:56:34 <grundblom> right now I have been looking at the Fedora23 change page and going off of that. 21:57:00 <grundblom> I spawned a F23 virtual machine and was comparing app version info, or is that unneccessary? 21:57:46 <randomuser> it helps; I'll often look at /usr/share/doc/$package/NEWS or CHANGELOG or whatever 21:58:45 <randomuser> if you want to compare rpm level stuff like the package version or changelog, you can use repoquery, ie `repoquery -q bash --releasever 22;repoquery -q bash --releasever 23;repoquery -q --changelog bash --releasever 23` 21:59:14 <randomuser> in general though, that kind of info describes the package and not the contents of the package 22:08:34 <grundblom> randomuser thanks! thats cool, I will do that tonight 22:08:41 <grundblom> especially on the entertainment beat 22:22:13 <randomuser> grundblom, great! the entertainment beat needs some love 23:32:12 <zoglesby> randomuser: sounds good to me (the 8th) 23:32:25 <zoglesby> sorry got tied up at work, then the late train home 23:35:54 <zoglesby> food time, then workl 05:17:28 <randomuser> gg everyone 05:17:31 <randomuser> #endmeeting