20:12:20 <randomuser> #startmeeting Fedora Docs Office Hours
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20:12:31 <randomuser> it's as if we planned this, zoglesby
20:13:15 <zoglesby> I don't plan anything
20:18:18 <jibecfed> randomuser: thanks for your help
20:18:28 <jibecfed> randomuser++
20:18:28 <zodbot> jibecfed: Karma for immanetize changed to 6 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:20:02 <jibecfed> it would be great if you can push new strings to zanata, and if we can discuss processes at Flock to make things even more smooth
20:26:24 <randomuser> if you have suggestions, please don't hold back
20:28:31 <randomuser> if something can be improved, we don't need to wait for flock to do it
20:49:16 <jibecfed> randomuser:we started
20:49:41 * randomuser chuckles
20:51:11 <jibecfed> we created a guide to explain how to use publican, zanata and docs' project content https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/how_to_build_a_translated_book_from_translated_files_on_Zanata
20:51:39 <jibecfed> we created a list of guide, to understand what is up to date and worth translated : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Translation_State_of_Guides_on_Zanata/fr?rd=L10N/Translation_Status_of_Guides_on_Zanata/fr
20:52:20 <jibecfed> and we're trying to understand how things works, asking for corrections and inviting other groups to translate
20:53:16 <jibecfed> you may chuckle, I may feel a little bad reading this, as much as you feel like with our many questions, but we try
20:55:54 <jibecfed> in addition, we documented how to get po files from zanata : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Zanata_Reviewing_.po_Files_Locally
20:57:17 <jibecfed> ralph bean from infra want to work on automation, it's something we need with docs, we now have what we need to understand the steps
20:59:15 <jibecfed> randomuser: we are two on these actions, do you agree we started ?
21:00:04 <randomuser> sorry, i chuckled because i thought you were referring to the immediately preceding conversation
21:00:54 <randomuser> how is this translation state page maintained, and why do you prefer it over looking at the same information in zanata?
21:02:34 <randomuser> i wasn't aware of the `publican trans_drop` command
21:02:45 <jibecfed> zanata can give the last two columns, but to know why a guide is RO or of it is up to date it difficult
21:03:10 <randomuser> ah
21:03:35 <jibecfed> i'm working with josé, I started translation at f23 release and he started a few month ago
21:03:49 <randomuser> reading on.. i don't do `publican update_po` personally, `zanata pull` creates the po files for how i do it
21:04:25 <randomuser> and that does the download part too
21:04:53 <randomuser> although the lang map feature is off, i think some zanata.xml files need adjusting or updating
21:07:00 <jibecfed> so we're trying to document what we understand and what's blocking us in our work, when we ask you so many questions about release-notes, it's because we're learning from scratch how to review translations and spot some "upstream" things we would like to correct : https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans-fr@lists.fedoraproject.org/2016/6/
21:07:59 <randomuser> do you know Jerome Fenal?  he was active in the fr team for some time and talked to us a fair amount
21:09:00 <jibecfed> yep, he gave me the key to be coordinator of french translation team, he is still present but not very active
21:09:25 <randomuser> ok, cool
21:10:01 <jibecfed> i'll try the command you gave me to see if we can improve zanata guide, but to talk about organisation and how things works, i will have to wait for flock
21:11:54 <randomuser> jibecfed, all of the Docs team documentation needs to be rewritten and updated as well
21:23:17 <jibecfed> thanks again for your help, bye
23:26:04 <randomuser> good meeting, everyone
23:26:07 <randomuser> #endmeeting