18:03:19 <nirik> #startmeeting Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting
18:03:19 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Oct  4 18:03:19 2021 UTC.
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18:03:19 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_infrastructure_ops_daily_standup_meeting'
18:03:19 <nirik> #chair mboddu nirik pingou mobrien nb
18:03:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: mboddu mobrien nb nirik pingou
18:03:19 <nirik> #meetingname fedora_infrastructure_ops_daily_standup_meeting
18:03:19 <nirik> #info meeting is 30 minutes MAX. At the end of 30, its stops
18:03:19 <nirik> #info agenda is at https://board.net/p/fedora-infra-daily
18:03:19 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_infrastructure_ops_daily_standup_meeting'
18:03:20 <nirik> #info reminder: speak up if you want to work on a ticket!
18:03:22 <nirik> #topic Tickets needing review
18:03:26 <nirik> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&priority=1
18:04:25 * mboddu is here
18:05:00 <nirik> sorry for the delay... linux-firmware broke my wireless, had to find a wired connection to downgrade. ;(
18:05:06 <nirik> .ticket 10250
18:05:07 <zodbot> nirik: Issue #10250: Create f35 maintainer test machine - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10250
18:05:13 <nirik> low/low/ops ?
18:05:19 <mboddu> +1
18:05:31 <nirik> and mobrien was thinking he might be able to walk pmoura through this if he's interested...
18:06:10 <pmoura> cool
18:06:51 <pmoura> he has given me 2 suggestions of issues, but I can shadow him on that on too
18:07:03 <nirik> excellent. :)
18:07:12 <nirik> thats all the infra ones... any new releng ones mboddu ?
18:09:02 <mboddu> Yeah, just one
18:09:08 <mboddu> .releng 10326
18:09:09 <zodbot> mboddu: Issue #10326: turn off fm-releng bot notifications in #fedora-releng - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10326
18:09:24 <nirik> ah yeah.
18:09:42 <nirik> FWIW, that channel is the only one anyone spoke up for keeping the notifications. I tried to ask in all of them...
18:10:07 <mboddu> I do really like the notifications in #fedora-releng channel
18:11:19 <nirik> I kinda like the compose ones. I don't care much about the pungi upstream stuff.
18:11:31 <mboddu> So, is it only about aesthetics and keeping it clean or are there any other reasons, like difficulty in setting up with matrix?
18:11:43 <nirik> anyhow, low,low, everyone and discuss at next releng meeting?
18:12:05 <mboddu> Yeah, I also use it mostly for compose related notifications, but sometimes others too
18:12:07 <mboddu> +1
18:12:11 <nirik> well, in general people get those messages other ways and they just add a bunch of noise to the channel.
18:12:27 <nirik> it should be possible to get compose stuff directly.
18:13:08 <nirik> then it would only bother people who care directly.
18:13:21 <mboddu> Anyway, I tagged it low/low/ops with meeting as well, lets discuss it tomorrow
18:14:33 <nirik> ok
18:14:49 <nirik> I might do the rest of channels today before freeze. but we can do releng later anyhow.
18:14:59 <nirik> #topic Plans for the week/upcoming
18:15:07 <nirik> #info final freeze starts tomorrow
18:15:30 <mboddu> Yeah, I will push the stable updates tonight (14:00 UTC)
18:15:47 <nirik> I'm going to try and get to the stuff I keep not getting to (mac notorize/greenwave/wavierdb for stream) and today I am going to try and merge any prs I can before freeze
18:15:56 <eddiejennings> I've recently discovered git grep, and it's about to change my life :P  Because of that, I should know tonight if any other files in the Ansible repo need to be touched for those ipv6 changes
18:16:04 <nirik> mboddu: you mean tomorrow morning... ;)
18:16:14 <nirik> eddiejennings: git grep rules!
18:16:27 <mboddu> nirik: Yeah, right, sorry, my bad :)
18:16:36 <mboddu> TZ's are hard :D
18:16:56 <nirik> #topic Discussion items / AOB
18:17:01 <nirik> I had a few quick things...
18:17:46 <nirik> mobrien has added 'Fixed with Explanation' close status to infra tracker. So, when you close a ticket you can explain what you did to fix it...
18:18:01 <nirik> this might help us out looking back to see how things were solved. :)
18:19:03 <mboddu> Interesting
18:19:12 <nirik> We have 2 tickets about irc data in the account system... accounts and groups. abompard has a script to nuke the accounts/users and change all the group ones to libera.chat. But... when should we run that? after freeze? during?
18:19:50 <nirik> I'd prefer to get it over with as soon as we can...it's already late/slow.
18:20:13 <nirik> anyone have any thoughts on that?
18:20:23 <mboddu> Preferably before freeze, if not then after freeze, definitely not during the freeze
18:20:43 <mboddu> ^ my opinion
18:21:38 <eddiejennings> I can only offer general advice.  If said script breaks what it's touching, would it be easier (less dire) to deal with before or after a freeze?
18:21:53 <eddiejennings> i.e. would this breaking stop F35's release?
18:21:54 <nirik> well, we need to announce it, we can't just do it today. :)
18:22:03 <nirik> so, after freeze it sounds like then...
18:22:54 <mboddu> eddiejennings: Its not going to affect the release, but we dont want to touch any critical pieces in infra during freeze as every change to make it right requires FBR and it will take time
18:23:13 <eddiejennings> FBR?
18:23:47 <nirik> freeze break request
18:23:51 <eddiejennings> my guess is "Fedora Board Review"
18:23:52 <eddiejennings> ah ok
18:23:55 <eddiejennings> those E-mails I see.
18:24:01 <nirik> but actually it wouldn't...
18:24:09 <nirik> it's just changing data, not config anywhere.
18:24:27 <nirik> but of course it could break the account system somehow.
18:25:08 <eddiejennings> The importance you folks seem to place on "freeze really means don't change anything unless $emergency", makes me think this should wait until after.
18:25:10 <nirik> ok, I think thats all I had. Anyone else have discussion items?
18:25:50 <mboddu> Nothing from me
18:25:53 <eddiejennings> but that's just one apprentice's opinion who won't be running the script :P
18:25:56 <eddiejennings> <-- nothing
18:26:04 <pmoura> Nothing from me
18:26:23 <nirik> alrighty then. Carry on everyone... have a good day, see you tomorrow same bat station, same bat channel. :)
18:26:26 <nirik> #endmeeting