17:01:55 <stickster> #startmeeting Fedora Insight weekly meeting
17:01:55 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed May 12 17:01:55 2010 UTC.  The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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17:02:02 <stickster> #meetingname Fedora Insight
17:02:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_insight'
17:02:07 <themayor> hey guys
17:02:08 <stickster> #topic Roll call
17:02:24 <stickster> Heya Jack
17:02:28 <themayor> whats goin on
17:02:35 <stickster> oh... meetin' :-)
17:02:39 <kushal> themayor, hello
17:02:44 <kushal> Kushal Das
17:02:45 <themayor> ya, figured i would sit in on it
17:02:46 * rbergeron is here
17:02:51 * stickster 
17:03:00 * stickster saw that pcalarco couldn't be here
17:03:12 <rbergeron> yep
17:03:19 <rbergeron> i don't know if mateo / drak got the message, either
17:03:26 <stickster> rbergeron: I also don't see drak or mateo, even though we really need at least one of them here. I cc'd both of them directly
17:04:05 <rbergeron> yeah, i know they're both in other time zones - i don't know if it is one of those "i'm setting my alarm for 5 minutes before the meeting" times
17:04:17 <stickster> #info stickster didn't send the meeting time change yesterday as he meant to, it only went out today at 1144 UTC for a 1700 UTC meeting
17:05:26 <stickster> There were two specific things I wanted to get done today -- one was to ensure our Zikula upstream participants understood our milestones and were ready to roll on them, and that we checked status of all our pending tickets to resolve in accordance with those milestones
17:05:34 <smooge> hello
17:05:39 <stickster> Hi smooge
17:05:50 <stickster> #topic Agenda/meeting slip
17:06:39 <stickster> #info Foci for this meeting were supposed to be: 1. Ensure Zikula upstream helpers understood our milestones; 2. Check status of pending tickets with them so we could prioritize them properly
17:06:57 <stickster> Without our participants, though, what else could we do with this meeting?
17:07:10 * stickster throws open floor to smooge, rbergeron, anyone.
17:07:30 <stickster> #topic Set focus for this meeting
17:07:43 * stickster notes he has hard stop at the hour.
17:07:55 <smooge> ok one sec while I read
17:08:07 * gwerra is kinda here
17:08:20 <smooge> alright.. what do we want to do?
17:08:36 <smooge> ok what is the current status?
17:09:01 <rbergeron> well -
17:09:13 * rbergeron apologizes for slow typing, my intarwebz is being weird
17:09:28 <rbergeron> i don't have a status - tbh i haven't logged in recently to see what has changed / been fixed
17:10:12 <rbergeron> was kind of waiting on our friends to see what fixes are being made
17:10:59 <rbergeron> as for what we can do with this meeting - i need to recollect on the milestones we set, but we could look at what we need to be doing on our end
17:11:03 <rbergeron> and go from there
17:11:09 <rbergeron> and that's about all i have. :)
17:12:07 <rbergeron> I guess we could actually publish our new and improved milestones on the wiki at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Goals
17:12:10 <rbergeron> :D
17:12:31 <stickster> Apologies -- I'm in a conversation in #fedora-devel about the slip at the same time
17:12:38 <rbergeron> i know we discussed some of that - as far as, how long do we want to try and fix / get FI working
17:12:45 <rbergeron> np :)
17:13:21 <rbergeron> i'll try and pull that meeting log up real quick - i can hang and do that while you're talking slippage :)
17:14:33 <smooge> ok thanks for the report rbergeron, I don't have a lot of knowledge of where we are stopped so I am just trying to catchup
17:15:55 <rbergeron> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-22/fedora_insight.2010-04-22-18.01.txt
17:16:01 <rbergeron> #undo
17:16:05 <rbergeron> oh, i can't do that.
17:16:18 <rbergeron> stickster ^^ link or chair
17:16:29 <rbergeron> smooge: that's the meeting where we discussed slippage
17:16:40 <rbergeron> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2010-April/000511.html
17:16:50 <rbergeron> mail from paul about us postponing FI
17:16:59 <stickster> #chair rbergeron smooge
17:16:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: rbergeron smooge stickster
17:17:19 <rbergeron> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-22/fedora_insight.2010-04-22-18.01.txt
17:17:27 <rbergeron> #info meeting where we discussed slippage
17:17:46 <rbergeron> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/logistics/2010-April/000511.html
17:17:54 <rbergeron> #info mail from paul about us postponing FI
17:18:04 <rbergeron> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2010-04-29/fedora_insight.2010-04-29-18.05.html
17:18:26 <rbergeron> #info mail with the discussion of milestones, how we are going to work with zikula folks going forward.
17:19:11 <rbergeron> looking back - that meeting was ... 2 weeks ago, 3 weeks ago? and i don't know what we've gotten accomplished since that point.
17:19:34 <rbergeron> other than, the zikula folks want to work with us, and are dedicated to having people be more involved in fedora to make that work.
17:19:55 <stickster> rbergeron: We skipped the meeting last week because mateo had planned to be here this week.
17:20:48 <smooge> ok that sounds good. I will reread ( the links look familiar but I have seen so many logs lately I am not sure.)
17:20:55 <stickster> This meeting was supposed to function as a kickoff for the targeted work toward the next milestone for Insight, which was June 15th for a limited production capability.
17:21:10 <stickster> Following that, July 15th for more story promotion capabilities.
17:21:27 <rbergeron> right - so i hate to behold the zikula folks to "you were supposed to be here" if they haven't gotten the meeting time mail.
17:21:36 <smooge> stickster, I agree. I think currently that you need your focus on the issues in fedora-devel. This can be delayed later today if needed
17:22:56 <stickster> rbergeron: Agreed -- not trying to lay this on anyone at all!
17:23:16 <stickster> Let's see if we can reset the meeting to a time when it works for everyone before COB Friday if possible
17:23:19 <smooge> Ok I propose we suspend the meeting until later today. We can work on getting the zikula people in line with time and reschedule at that time. Does that sound okk
17:23:34 <smooge> oh slow typer
17:24:08 <rbergeron> that works
17:26:44 <stickster> smooge: +1.
17:26:53 <smooge> rbergeron, could you contact them and find out if they can make this afternoon, tomorrow morning or friday?
17:28:00 <smooge> that is if you know who they are :). I don't really at this point... will try to get that covered by this afternoon.
17:28:05 <rbergeron> sure thing. i'll send out the mail in a few minutes. :)
17:28:16 <rbergeron> anything else - or shall i close out the meeting and send out the logs?
17:28:31 <smooge> then I will go over those links you had and email to ? what I think we should go over.
17:28:50 <smooge> we can agree from there and set an agenda for the next meeting.
17:29:24 <smooge> or someone else can.. I realized I sound like a military corporal versus being helpful :)
17:30:51 <smooge> rbergeron, +1 to your closing :)
17:34:17 <rbergeron> okay
17:34:18 <rbergeron> sorry
17:34:23 <smooge> np
17:34:28 * rbergeron is multitasking :)
17:34:31 <smooge> I am juggling many things too.
17:34:40 * stickster comes back
17:35:08 * rbergeron throws a juggling ball 323 miles to the east
17:35:09 <stickster> #agreed Suspend meeting until later, work on getting Zikula people at an available time.
17:35:26 <stickster> #action rbergeron contact drak and mateo about their availability
17:35:44 * stickster waits 30 to end
17:36:03 <rbergeron> stickster: want me to send out logs, or is that on your immediate agenda :)
17:36:13 <stickster> rbergeron: I can do it
17:36:38 <stickster> #endmeeting