14:00:05 <pbrobinson> #startmeeting Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting
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14:00:05 <pbrobinson> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson bcotton
14:00:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton pbrobinson pwhalen
14:00:05 <pbrobinson> #topic roll call
14:00:18 <pbrobinson> morning, afternoon, evening, who do we have about?
14:00:49 * pwhalen is here
14:01:08 * bcotton is half-here
14:01:35 * ctron is here
14:01:46 * jsmith is half-here
14:02:20 <pbrobinson> does a half bcotton and half jsmith make a full something? :-P
14:02:52 <pwhalen> heh :)
14:03:01 <jsmith> pbrobinson: Let's not answer that right now :-p
14:03:39 <pbrobinson> #topic 1) ==== Working Group process and admin  ====
14:03:57 <pbrobinson> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/InternetOfThings/PRD
14:04:30 <pbrobinson> #info bcotton wrote up an initial PRD, I've done some review of it, I'm hoping we can do a drill down on this at flock and get it finished
14:04:45 <jsmith> I have some comments on the PRD, and if I make it to Flock, would be happy to share them there.
14:04:51 <jsmith> Otherwise, I'll provide them offline :-)
14:05:25 <pbrobinson> jsmith: email to the list is fab too, or if you feel it's minor changes/corrects just edit it in the wiki straight up
14:05:41 <jsmith> OK, sounds good
14:06:43 <pbrobinson> if bcotton doesn't have any comments here we can likely move on
14:06:44 <bcotton> there are many edits that need to be made. all i put together is a scaffolding for us to hang the "what do we want the IoT thing to be?"
14:07:12 <pbrobinson> bcotton: yes, I realise that, I made a few edits, I know I need to do more
14:07:28 <bcotton> but generally, i'd say let's start with a smaller, more focused thing that we can build on later. "we want this to be everything for all IoT use cases everywhere" is a good way to fail (everyone already knows this, but it's good to repeat it)
14:08:30 <pbrobinson> yes, makes sense to me, overall with IoT I'm aiming to start small and expand as time and resources permit
14:09:03 <pbrobinson> better off doing a smaller remit well rather than a massive remit badly, and IoT is extremely large
14:09:08 <pbrobinson> #info please provide feeback on the list or at flock (if you're present) on the PRD
14:09:21 <pbrobinson> #topic 2) ==== Nightly builds  ====
14:09:44 <pbrobinson> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/InternetOfThings/GettingStarted
14:10:19 <pbrobinson> #info I updated the wiki with details on rebasing to rawhide/f29, I believe we have a few issues there, I'm hoping they're be resolved later today
14:10:33 <lobocode> Sirs, morning. I would like to discuss a rather delicate subject:
14:10:49 <pbrobinson> anyone got any queries feedback on the nightly builds?
14:11:01 <jsmith> Nothing from me, so far.
14:11:18 <jsmith> lobocode: Is it related to the Nightly Builds?  If not, please wait until the "Open Floor" at the end of the meeting.
14:11:41 <pbrobinson> jsmith: I suspect it's a spammer
14:11:42 <pwhalen> I havent hit any issues with the nightlies, need to try another rebase
14:11:54 <pwhalen> pbrobinson, is there is a bz?
14:11:58 <lobocode> When a member "Ambassador" seriously violates the Fedora Project's code of conduct, disrespects members, offends team members, takes inappropriate actions with people seeking help in the community, what can we do in this case?
14:12:17 <jsmith> lobocode: You're interrupting a meeting, but send me a private message and I'll try to help
14:12:18 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: not yet
14:12:30 <lobocode> Ok, sorry.
14:12:38 <pwhalen> ok, will see if I can reproduce
14:13:27 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: one is in the compose process from yesterday, I'm awaiting today's rawhide compose to kick it again
14:13:57 <pwhalen> pbrobinson, ok
14:14:08 <pbrobinson> #topic 4) ==== Fedora 29 Features and Planning for IoT ====
14:14:24 <pbrobinson> we're past they points for Fedora 29 Changes
14:14:57 <pbrobinson> there will be a few improvements on the F-29 based composes, mostly I'm awaiting the CoreOS bits
14:15:37 <pbrobinson> We should have a proper fedora-release-iot and can subsequently set policies etc specific to IoT later this week
14:15:51 <jsmith> Sounds very reasonable
14:15:53 <pbrobinson> anyone else have anything around F-29
14:15:57 <ctron> pbrobinson: That is something which I would like to understand ... the relationship between Fedora IoT and Fedora Core OS
14:16:31 <ctron> I know too little about Atomic and CoreOS ... but does that have any impact on Fedora IoT?
14:16:59 <pbrobinson> ctron: we're going to be using pieces from Fedora CoreOS, the exact details of how this will sit still depends a lot on the CoreOS/Atomic merge which is in process but still not concrete
14:17:28 <ctron> pbrobinson: ok .. thx
14:17:42 <pbrobinson> ctron: check old IoT meeting notes on the day Fedora CoreOS was announced, I covered quite a bit there
14:18:14 <ctron> thx .. I will
14:19:11 <pbrobinson> ctron: main FAQ is here https://coreos.fedoraproject.org/faq
14:19:51 <pbrobinson> #topic 5) ==== Flock conference ====
14:20:28 <pbrobinson> #info flock is next week https://flocktofedora.org/
14:21:01 <pbrobinson> #info there will be a IoT Objective talk, BoF, and Hackfest as well as a talk around Raspberry Pi in Fedora
14:21:17 <pbrobinson> #info no Fedora IoT meeting next week due to flock
14:23:55 <pbrobinson> #topic 6) ==== Open Floor ====
14:24:05 <pbrobinson> anyone have any general business?
14:24:09 * jsmith has nothing for the Open Floor
14:24:15 * pwhalen has nothing
14:25:03 <pbrobinson> ctron: bcotton: mrizo: anything to note, any queries?
14:25:21 * bcotton has nothing
14:27:01 <pbrobinson> thank you all
14:27:10 <pbrobinson> #endmeeting